ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:The tool on soccer website is up. Can’t imagine the cluster if clubs (and their parents/kids) are subjected to two registration systems. Kids can be u12 or u13 depending on A vs B vs C team…WTF!

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

We should have all stayed BY just cause it’s easier to understand, but if the U system identification is going to mean 2 different things depending on which league the team plays for within the same club or between clubs for that matter, then about it.

Parent of a fall boy and yes, staying BY would have been preferable to two different registration systems. We potentially will drop down an age group to a SY team to then skip u12 to go up to a BY team.

Most places this "choice" isn't going to be up to you. There's no dropping up or down. There is just the new normal.

I’m not following you. The age group is the age group. Mlsnext club and u8-u12 will be SY and u13 and older will be BY. If he’s placed appropriately for his age, he will repeat an age group at the ulittle ages and then skip an age group to go to an mlsnext team.

Some parents feel that their kid is super special will stay with the current team and play up. While some kids will play up for various reasons, there's absolutely no reason to assume you are guaranteed to stay on your current team just because you've been there with a fall birthday.

Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Repeating an age group and then skipping an age group is what would happen because we aren’t guaranteed to stay with the current team. Would rather have everything stay BY than deal with this.

well in my kid's personal case - she's an oct 2013 starting on a pre-ecnl North Atlantic team (yes real pre-ecnl not just a stupid label). She made the ECNL team for this fall and will repeat it likely next fall. It's not "perfect", but I'm guessing the expectation will be to stay on age. It hasn't actually been mentioned specifically yet, but it's easy to see how things will go. She could have 100% stayed on the current team, but she'll now be the oldest and essentially repeat a year. I'll take this over being trapped and misaligned during recruiting years.

This explains why you are not understanding what the pp is saying. Unless mlsnext changes to SY, the experience of a girl with a fall birthday at an ecnl club will be different from a boy with a fall birthday at or entering an mlsnext club.

Now let’s move on. With all the futsal national finals this week, anyone hearing if futsal will switch to SY this year?

Confirmed they are

Can you provide more information about futsal switching to SY for 25/26? Tryouts are next month but I’ve yet to see any formal announcement.

I’m sure Trish informed them of MLSN plans too. 🤣

MLSN is staying BY, I heard that from a USYS league rep in my area.

Why would a USYS league rep have insider MLSN info? I think MLSN will stay BY as well but my random guess isnt any different that a USYS person's random guess.

Why would Mlsn stay birth year?

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Anonymous wrote:It would be nice if the leagues or whatever started to announce plans. Perhaps they are waiting for ECNL playoffs to finish so news end of this month? I think we all just want to know definitively at this point. That would be crazy if a league adopts 8/1 and 9/1 and decides based on state. People are dumb, look at half of the people confused on this thread, so i dont hate on the calculator. But it is just getting annoying that little information has been announced. Rip the bandaid off so we can all move forward.

All US Club Soccer leagues (including ECNL) are mandated to use the (old) 8/1 to 7/31 registration system for the 26/27 year. This isn't confusing.

Currently all US Club soccer leagues (including ECNL) are mandated to use a birth year 1/1 to 12/31 registration system. Yet ECNL has their own league rule that allows trapped eight grade players to play down with the next age group in the spring. Hmm - wonder if they could do something in 26/27 outside the US Club mandate?

Sure, and ECNL could do something outside of the US Club BY mandate in 25/26. You just never know - until the league rules are published.

The current year is still happening right? Shockingly, they'll probably post updates after this season concludes.

Just a lame duck exhibition year. Good year for Aug-Dec kids to skip the season and grab a team next spring. Then they won't have to repeat an age group. And they can try another sport next year. Was a complete bungle to frag this out another year.

I have a Q4 kid and I wish it was simply done this year. My kid knows there's a change next year and don't know where he'll end up playing next year. I'm expecting mass movement. So, should have just made a decision and made the change right away. All the kids on teams for the upcoming year know next year, the make up of their teams will be different. So this does feel like a wasted year we're all paying for this sport.

Also have a Q4 and also hate they delayed so long, but don't let your kid adopt that same attitude. While the teams might change, still a long time for personal development. If your kid thinks the season is wasted, they might regress.

Wish my kid was younger and they couldn't figure it out. My middle schooler figured out current coach gave up on the Q4s leaving the team last spring as they will probably be hopping to another club in fall 2026. Soccer will lose a bunch of middle schoolers to other sports over their incompetence. Like they think mostly ignoring the age change it will mean people don't know next year is a waste.

Y'all wanted the age change. Deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be nice if the leagues or whatever started to announce plans. Perhaps they are waiting for ECNL playoffs to finish so news end of this month? I think we all just want to know definitively at this point. That would be crazy if a league adopts 8/1 and 9/1 and decides based on state. People are dumb, look at half of the people confused on this thread, so i dont hate on the calculator. But it is just getting annoying that little information has been announced. Rip the bandaid off so we can all move forward.

All US Club Soccer leagues (including ECNL) are mandated to use the (old) 8/1 to 7/31 registration system for the 26/27 year. This isn't confusing.

Currently all US Club soccer leagues (including ECNL) are mandated to use a birth year 1/1 to 12/31 registration system. Yet ECNL has their own league rule that allows trapped eight grade players to play down with the next age group in the spring. Hmm - wonder if they could do something in 26/27 outside the US Club mandate?

Sure, and ECNL could do something outside of the US Club BY mandate in 25/26. You just never know - until the league rules are published.

The current year is still happening right? Shockingly, they'll probably post updates after this season concludes.

Just a lame duck exhibition year. Good year for Aug-Dec kids to skip the season and grab a team next spring. Then they won't have to repeat an age group. And they can try another sport next year. Was a complete bungle to frag this out another year.

I have a Q4 kid and I wish it was simply done this year. My kid knows there's a change next year and don't know where he'll end up playing next year. I'm expecting mass movement. So, should have just made a decision and made the change right away. All the kids on teams for the upcoming year know next year, the make up of their teams will be different. So this does feel like a wasted year we're all paying for this sport.

There's always a fair amount of turnover on teams. Yes, there'll be more this upcoming season, but you're really overblowing it. The only ones who deserve SOME consideration are the 8th-grade trapped players this season. Too many others thinking can't wait because they think this will give their kid an edge. You want an edge? Have them work their butt off. The shift will provide opportunities, but if you're kid isn't focusing and working hard, they won't be able to take advantage.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be nice if the leagues or whatever started to announce plans. Perhaps they are waiting for ECNL playoffs to finish so news end of this month? I think we all just want to know definitively at this point. That would be crazy if a league adopts 8/1 and 9/1 and decides based on state. People are dumb, look at half of the people confused on this thread, so i dont hate on the calculator. But it is just getting annoying that little information has been announced. Rip the bandaid off so we can all move forward.

All US Club Soccer leagues (including ECNL) are mandated to use the (old) 8/1 to 7/31 registration system for the 26/27 year. This isn't confusing.

Currently all US Club soccer leagues (including ECNL) are mandated to use a birth year 1/1 to 12/31 registration system. Yet ECNL has their own league rule that allows trapped eight grade players to play down with the next age group in the spring. Hmm - wonder if they could do something in 26/27 outside the US Club mandate?

Sure, and ECNL could do something outside of the US Club BY mandate in 25/26. You just never know - until the league rules are published.

The current year is still happening right? Shockingly, they'll probably post updates after this season concludes.

Just a lame duck exhibition year. Good year for Aug-Dec kids to skip the season and grab a team next spring. Then they won't have to repeat an age group. And they can try another sport next year. Was a complete bungle to frag this out another year.

I have a Q4 kid and I wish it was simply done this year. My kid knows there's a change next year and don't know where he'll end up playing next year. I'm expecting mass movement. So, should have just made a decision and made the change right away. All the kids on teams for the upcoming year know next year, the make up of their teams will be different. So this does feel like a wasted year we're all paying for this sport.

There's always a fair amount of turnover on teams. Yes, there'll be more this upcoming season, but you're really overblowing it. The only ones who deserve SOME consideration are the 8th-grade trapped players this season. Too many others thinking can't wait because they think this will give their kid an edge. You want an edge? Have them work their butt off. The shift will provide opportunities, but if you're kid isn't focusing and working hard, they won't be able to take advantage.

My kid is a Sept birthday on a top national team. She's working hard and getting even better at a higher level. If she chooses to play down for SY its going to be scary. I have a feeling that theres going to be a lot of players like this.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be nice if the leagues or whatever started to announce plans. Perhaps they are waiting for ECNL playoffs to finish so news end of this month? I think we all just want to know definitively at this point. That would be crazy if a league adopts 8/1 and 9/1 and decides based on state. People are dumb, look at half of the people confused on this thread, so i dont hate on the calculator. But it is just getting annoying that little information has been announced. Rip the bandaid off so we can all move forward.

All US Club Soccer leagues (including ECNL) are mandated to use the (old) 8/1 to 7/31 registration system for the 26/27 year. This isn't confusing.

Currently all US Club soccer leagues (including ECNL) are mandated to use a birth year 1/1 to 12/31 registration system. Yet ECNL has their own league rule that allows trapped eight grade players to play down with the next age group in the spring. Hmm - wonder if they could do something in 26/27 outside the US Club mandate?

Sure, and ECNL could do something outside of the US Club BY mandate in 25/26. You just never know - until the league rules are published.

The current year is still happening right? Shockingly, they'll probably post updates after this season concludes.

Just a lame duck exhibition year. Good year for Aug-Dec kids to skip the season and grab a team next spring. Then they won't have to repeat an age group. And they can try another sport next year. Was a complete bungle to frag this out another year.

I have a Q4 kid and I wish it was simply done this year. My kid knows there's a change next year and don't know where he'll end up playing next year. I'm expecting mass movement. So, should have just made a decision and made the change right away. All the kids on teams for the upcoming year know next year, the make up of their teams will be different. So this does feel like a wasted year we're all paying for this sport.

There's always a fair amount of turnover on teams. Yes, there'll be more this upcoming season, but you're really overblowing it. The only ones who deserve SOME consideration are the 8th-grade trapped players this season. Too many others thinking can't wait because they think this will give their kid an edge. You want an edge? Have them work their butt off. The shift will provide opportunities, but if you're kid isn't focusing and working hard, they won't be able to take advantage.

My kid is a Sept birthday on a top national team. She's working hard and getting even better at a higher level. If she chooses to play down for SY its going to be scary. I have a feeling that theres going to be a lot of players like this.

Again for the 100x time - It's not "playing down" and if she's at a "top" club, they're probably going to want to align the age groups from the start so there's not much of a choice.

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Anonymous wrote:The tool on soccer website is up. Can’t imagine the cluster if clubs (and their parents/kids) are subjected to two registration systems. Kids can be u12 or u13 depending on A vs B vs C team…WTF!

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

We should have all stayed BY just cause it’s easier to understand, but if the U system identification is going to mean 2 different things depending on which league the team plays for within the same club or between clubs for that matter, then about it.

Parent of a fall boy and yes, staying BY would have been preferable to two different registration systems. We potentially will drop down an age group to a SY team to then skip u12 to go up to a BY team.

Most places this "choice" isn't going to be up to you. There's no dropping up or down. There is just the new normal.

I’m not following you. The age group is the age group. Mlsnext club and u8-u12 will be SY and u13 and older will be BY. If he’s placed appropriately for his age, he will repeat an age group at the ulittle ages and then skip an age group to go to an mlsnext team.

Some parents feel that their kid is super special will stay with the current team and play up. While some kids will play up for various reasons, there's absolutely no reason to assume you are guaranteed to stay on your current team just because you've been there with a fall birthday.

Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Repeating an age group and then skipping an age group is what would happen because we aren’t guaranteed to stay with the current team. Would rather have everything stay BY than deal with this.

well in my kid's personal case - she's an oct 2013 starting on a pre-ecnl North Atlantic team (yes real pre-ecnl not just a stupid label). She made the ECNL team for this fall and will repeat it likely next fall. It's not "perfect", but I'm guessing the expectation will be to stay on age. It hasn't actually been mentioned specifically yet, but it's easy to see how things will go. She could have 100% stayed on the current team, but she'll now be the oldest and essentially repeat a year. I'll take this over being trapped and misaligned during recruiting years.

This explains why you are not understanding what the pp is saying. Unless mlsnext changes to SY, the experience of a girl with a fall birthday at an ecnl club will be different from a boy with a fall birthday at or entering an mlsnext club.

Now let’s move on. With all the futsal national finals this week, anyone hearing if futsal will switch to SY this year?

Confirmed they are

Can you provide more information about futsal switching to SY for 25/26? Tryouts are next month but I’ve yet to see any formal announcement.

I’m sure Trish informed them of MLSN plans too. 🤣

MLSN is staying BY, I heard that from a USYS league rep in my area.

Why would a USYS league rep have insider MLSN info? I think MLSN will stay BY as well but my random guess isnt any different that a USYS person's random guess.

They were involved with committees when USSF was deciding on what to do. Said big reason ussf didn’t mandate age change was because MLSN was strongly against the change.

Just what I was told not sure why they would lie about that.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be nice if the leagues or whatever started to announce plans. Perhaps they are waiting for ECNL playoffs to finish so news end of this month? I think we all just want to know definitively at this point. That would be crazy if a league adopts 8/1 and 9/1 and decides based on state. People are dumb, look at half of the people confused on this thread, so i dont hate on the calculator. But it is just getting annoying that little information has been announced. Rip the bandaid off so we can all move forward.

All US Club Soccer leagues (including ECNL) are mandated to use the (old) 8/1 to 7/31 registration system for the 26/27 year. This isn't confusing.

Currently all US Club soccer leagues (including ECNL) are mandated to use a birth year 1/1 to 12/31 registration system. Yet ECNL has their own league rule that allows trapped eight grade players to play down with the next age group in the spring. Hmm - wonder if they could do something in 26/27 outside the US Club mandate?

Sure, and ECNL could do something outside of the US Club BY mandate in 25/26. You just never know - until the league rules are published.

The current year is still happening right? Shockingly, they'll probably post updates after this season concludes.

Just a lame duck exhibition year. Good year for Aug-Dec kids to skip the season and grab a team next spring. Then they won't have to repeat an age group. And they can try another sport next year. Was a complete bungle to frag this out another year.

I have a Q4 kid and I wish it was simply done this year. My kid knows there's a change next year and don't know where he'll end up playing next year. I'm expecting mass movement. So, should have just made a decision and made the change right away. All the kids on teams for the upcoming year know next year, the make up of their teams will be different. So this does feel like a wasted year we're all paying for this sport.

There's always a fair amount of turnover on teams. Yes, there'll be more this upcoming season, but you're really overblowing it. The only ones who deserve SOME consideration are the 8th-grade trapped players this season. Too many others thinking can't wait because they think this will give their kid an edge. You want an edge? Have them work their butt off. The shift will provide opportunities, but if you're kid isn't focusing and working hard, they won't be able to take advantage.

My kid is a Sept birthday on a top national team. She's working hard and getting even better at a higher level. If she chooses to play down for SY its going to be scary. I have a feeling that theres going to be a lot of players like this.

Again for the 100x time - It's not "playing down" and if she's at a "top" club, they're probably going to want to align the age groups from the start so there's not much of a choice.

No its playing down. You just want to feel better about your kid playing down against younger players.

Go cry 😢

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Anonymous wrote:The tool on soccer website is up. Can’t imagine the cluster if clubs (and their parents/kids) are subjected to two registration systems. Kids can be u12 or u13 depending on A vs B vs C team…WTF!

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

We should have all stayed BY just cause it’s easier to understand, but if the U system identification is going to mean 2 different things depending on which league the team plays for within the same club or between clubs for that matter, then about it.

Parent of a fall boy and yes, staying BY would have been preferable to two different registration systems. We potentially will drop down an age group to a SY team to then skip u12 to go up to a BY team.

Most places this "choice" isn't going to be up to you. There's no dropping up or down. There is just the new normal.

I’m not following you. The age group is the age group. Mlsnext club and u8-u12 will be SY and u13 and older will be BY. If he’s placed appropriately for his age, he will repeat an age group at the ulittle ages and then skip an age group to go to an mlsnext team.

Some parents feel that their kid is super special will stay with the current team and play up. While some kids will play up for various reasons, there's absolutely no reason to assume you are guaranteed to stay on your current team just because you've been there with a fall birthday.

Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Repeating an age group and then skipping an age group is what would happen because we aren’t guaranteed to stay with the current team. Would rather have everything stay BY than deal with this.

well in my kid's personal case - she's an oct 2013 starting on a pre-ecnl North Atlantic team (yes real pre-ecnl not just a stupid label). She made the ECNL team for this fall and will repeat it likely next fall. It's not "perfect", but I'm guessing the expectation will be to stay on age. It hasn't actually been mentioned specifically yet, but it's easy to see how things will go. She could have 100% stayed on the current team, but she'll now be the oldest and essentially repeat a year. I'll take this over being trapped and misaligned during recruiting years.

This explains why you are not understanding what the pp is saying. Unless mlsnext changes to SY, the experience of a girl with a fall birthday at an ecnl club will be different from a boy with a fall birthday at or entering an mlsnext club.

Now let’s move on. With all the futsal national finals this week, anyone hearing if futsal will switch to SY this year?

Confirmed they are

Can you provide more information about futsal switching to SY for 25/26? Tryouts are next month but I’ve yet to see any formal announcement.

I’m sure Trish informed them of MLSN plans too. 🤣

MLSN is staying BY, I heard that from a USYS league rep in my area.

Why would a USYS league rep have insider MLSN info? I think MLSN will stay BY as well but my random guess isnt any different that a USYS person's random guess.

They were involved with committees when USSF was deciding on what to do. Said big reason ussf didn’t mandate age change was because MLSN was strongly against the change.

Just what I was told not sure why they would lie about that.

However, with the entire pipeline going SY, they will likely acquiesce.

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Anonymous wrote:The tool on soccer website is up. Can’t imagine the cluster if clubs (and their parents/kids) are subjected to two registration systems. Kids can be u12 or u13 depending on A vs B vs C team…WTF!

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

We should have all stayed BY just cause it’s easier to understand, but if the U system identification is going to mean 2 different things depending on which league the team plays for within the same club or between clubs for that matter, then about it.

Parent of a fall boy and yes, staying BY would have been preferable to two different registration systems. We potentially will drop down an age group to a SY team to then skip u12 to go up to a BY team.

Most places this "choice" isn't going to be up to you. There's no dropping up or down. There is just the new normal.

I’m not following you. The age group is the age group. Mlsnext club and u8-u12 will be SY and u13 and older will be BY. If he’s placed appropriately for his age, he will repeat an age group at the ulittle ages and then skip an age group to go to an mlsnext team.

Some parents feel that their kid is super special will stay with the current team and play up. While some kids will play up for various reasons, there's absolutely no reason to assume you are guaranteed to stay on your current team just because you've been there with a fall birthday.

Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Repeating an age group and then skipping an age group is what would happen because we aren’t guaranteed to stay with the current team. Would rather have everything stay BY than deal with this.

well in my kid's personal case - she's an oct 2013 starting on a pre-ecnl North Atlantic team (yes real pre-ecnl not just a stupid label). She made the ECNL team for this fall and will repeat it likely next fall. It's not "perfect", but I'm guessing the expectation will be to stay on age. It hasn't actually been mentioned specifically yet, but it's easy to see how things will go. She could have 100% stayed on the current team, but she'll now be the oldest and essentially repeat a year. I'll take this over being trapped and misaligned during recruiting years.

This explains why you are not understanding what the pp is saying. Unless mlsnext changes to SY, the experience of a girl with a fall birthday at an ecnl club will be different from a boy with a fall birthday at or entering an mlsnext club.

Now let’s move on. With all the futsal national finals this week, anyone hearing if futsal will switch to SY this year?

Confirmed they are

Can you provide more information about futsal switching to SY for 25/26? Tryouts are next month but I’ve yet to see any formal announcement.

I’m sure Trish informed them of MLSN plans too. 🤣

MLSN is staying BY, I heard that from a USYS league rep in my area.

Why would a USYS league rep have insider MLSN info? I think MLSN will stay BY as well but my random guess isnt any different that a USYS person's random guess.

They were involved with committees when USSF was deciding on what to do. Said big reason ussf didn’t mandate age change was because MLSN was strongly against the change.

Just what I was told not sure why they would lie about that.

However, with the entire pipeline going SY, they will likely acquiesce.

You dont understand how pro soccer (which MLSN is more aligned) works. SY doesnt make sense in the professional world.

As long as MLSN controls the professional pathway if they choose to stay BY that's just how it will be. If anything top players will acquiesce into MLSN + BY defined leagues.

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Anonymous wrote:The tool on soccer website is up. Can’t imagine the cluster if clubs (and their parents/kids) are subjected to two registration systems. Kids can be u12 or u13 depending on A vs B vs C team…WTF!

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

We should have all stayed BY just cause it’s easier to understand, but if the U system identification is going to mean 2 different things depending on which league the team plays for within the same club or between clubs for that matter, then about it.

Parent of a fall boy and yes, staying BY would have been preferable to two different registration systems. We potentially will drop down an age group to a SY team to then skip u12 to go up to a BY team.

Most places this "choice" isn't going to be up to you. There's no dropping up or down. There is just the new normal.

I’m not following you. The age group is the age group. Mlsnext club and u8-u12 will be SY and u13 and older will be BY. If he’s placed appropriately for his age, he will repeat an age group at the ulittle ages and then skip an age group to go to an mlsnext team.

Some parents feel that their kid is super special will stay with the current team and play up. While some kids will play up for various reasons, there's absolutely no reason to assume you are guaranteed to stay on your current team just because you've been there with a fall birthday.

Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Repeating an age group and then skipping an age group is what would happen because we aren’t guaranteed to stay with the current team. Would rather have everything stay BY than deal with this.

well in my kid's personal case - she's an oct 2013 starting on a pre-ecnl North Atlantic team (yes real pre-ecnl not just a stupid label). She made the ECNL team for this fall and will repeat it likely next fall. It's not "perfect", but I'm guessing the expectation will be to stay on age. It hasn't actually been mentioned specifically yet, but it's easy to see how things will go. She could have 100% stayed on the current team, but she'll now be the oldest and essentially repeat a year. I'll take this over being trapped and misaligned during recruiting years.

This explains why you are not understanding what the pp is saying. Unless mlsnext changes to SY, the experience of a girl with a fall birthday at an ecnl club will be different from a boy with a fall birthday at or entering an mlsnext club.

Now let’s move on. With all the futsal national finals this week, anyone hearing if futsal will switch to SY this year?

Confirmed they are

Can you provide more information about futsal switching to SY for 25/26? Tryouts are next month but I’ve yet to see any formal announcement.

I’m sure Trish informed them of MLSN plans too. 🤣

MLSN is staying BY, I heard that from a USYS league rep in my area.

Why would a USYS league rep have insider MLSN info? I think MLSN will stay BY as well but my random guess isnt any different that a USYS person's random guess.

They were involved with committees when USSF was deciding on what to do. Said big reason ussf didn’t mandate age change was because MLSN was strongly against the change.

Just what I was told not sure why they would lie about that.

However, with the entire pipeline going SY, they will likely acquiesce.

You dont understand how pro soccer (which MLSN is more aligned) works. SY doesnt make sense in the professional world.

As long as MLSN controls the professional pathway if they choose to stay BY that's just how it will be. If anything top players will acquiesce into MLSN + BY defined leagues.

Why don’t you educate us all then why BY is better in the professional world?

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Anonymous wrote:The tool on soccer website is up. Can’t imagine the cluster if clubs (and their parents/kids) are subjected to two registration systems. Kids can be u12 or u13 depending on A vs B vs C team…WTF!

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

We should have all stayed BY just cause it’s easier to understand, but if the U system identification is going to mean 2 different things depending on which league the team plays for within the same club or between clubs for that matter, then about it.

Parent of a fall boy and yes, staying BY would have been preferable to two different registration systems. We potentially will drop down an age group to a SY team to then skip u12 to go up to a BY team.

Most places this "choice" isn't going to be up to you. There's no dropping up or down. There is just the new normal.

I’m not following you. The age group is the age group. Mlsnext club and u8-u12 will be SY and u13 and older will be BY. If he’s placed appropriately for his age, he will repeat an age group at the ulittle ages and then skip an age group to go to an mlsnext team.

Some parents feel that their kid is super special will stay with the current team and play up. While some kids will play up for various reasons, there's absolutely no reason to assume you are guaranteed to stay on your current team just because you've been there with a fall birthday.

Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Repeating an age group and then skipping an age group is what would happen because we aren’t guaranteed to stay with the current team. Would rather have everything stay BY than deal with this.

well in my kid's personal case - she's an oct 2013 starting on a pre-ecnl North Atlantic team (yes real pre-ecnl not just a stupid label). She made the ECNL team for this fall and will repeat it likely next fall. It's not "perfect", but I'm guessing the expectation will be to stay on age. It hasn't actually been mentioned specifically yet, but it's easy to see how things will go. She could have 100% stayed on the current team, but she'll now be the oldest and essentially repeat a year. I'll take this over being trapped and misaligned during recruiting years.

This explains why you are not understanding what the pp is saying. Unless mlsnext changes to SY, the experience of a girl with a fall birthday at an ecnl club will be different from a boy with a fall birthday at or entering an mlsnext club.

Now let’s move on. With all the futsal national finals this week, anyone hearing if futsal will switch to SY this year?

Confirmed they are

Can you provide more information about futsal switching to SY for 25/26? Tryouts are next month but I’ve yet to see any formal announcement.

I’m sure Trish informed them of MLSN plans too. 🤣

MLSN is staying BY, I heard that from a USYS league rep in my area.

Why would a USYS league rep have insider MLSN info? I think MLSN will stay BY as well but my random guess isnt any different that a USYS person's random guess.

They were involved with committees when USSF was deciding on what to do. Said big reason ussf didn’t mandate age change was because MLSN was strongly against the change.

Just what I was told not sure why they would lie about that.

However, with the entire pipeline going SY, they will likely acquiesce.

You dont understand how pro soccer (which MLSN is more aligned) works. SY doesnt make sense in the professional world.

As long as MLSN controls the professional pathway if they choose to stay BY that's just how it will be. If anything top players will acquiesce into MLSN + BY defined leagues.

Why don’t you educate us all then why BY is better in the professional world?

Because grade in school has no bearing on playing professionally.

Next stupid question please

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Anonymous wrote:The tool on soccer website is up. Can’t imagine the cluster if clubs (and their parents/kids) are subjected to two registration systems. Kids can be u12 or u13 depending on A vs B vs C team…WTF!

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

We should have all stayed BY just cause it’s easier to understand, but if the U system identification is going to mean 2 different things depending on which league the team plays for within the same club or between clubs for that matter, then about it.

Parent of a fall boy and yes, staying BY would have been preferable to two different registration systems. We potentially will drop down an age group to a SY team to then skip u12 to go up to a BY team.

Most places this "choice" isn't going to be up to you. There's no dropping up or down. There is just the new normal.

I’m not following you. The age group is the age group. Mlsnext club and u8-u12 will be SY and u13 and older will be BY. If he’s placed appropriately for his age, he will repeat an age group at the ulittle ages and then skip an age group to go to an mlsnext team.

Some parents feel that their kid is super special will stay with the current team and play up. While some kids will play up for various reasons, there's absolutely no reason to assume you are guaranteed to stay on your current team just because you've been there with a fall birthday.

Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Repeating an age group and then skipping an age group is what would happen because we aren’t guaranteed to stay with the current team. Would rather have everything stay BY than deal with this.

well in my kid's personal case - she's an oct 2013 starting on a pre-ecnl North Atlantic team (yes real pre-ecnl not just a stupid label). She made the ECNL team for this fall and will repeat it likely next fall. It's not "perfect", but I'm guessing the expectation will be to stay on age. It hasn't actually been mentioned specifically yet, but it's easy to see how things will go. She could have 100% stayed on the current team, but she'll now be the oldest and essentially repeat a year. I'll take this over being trapped and misaligned during recruiting years.

This explains why you are not understanding what the pp is saying. Unless mlsnext changes to SY, the experience of a girl with a fall birthday at an ecnl club will be different from a boy with a fall birthday at or entering an mlsnext club.

Now let’s move on. With all the futsal national finals this week, anyone hearing if futsal will switch to SY this year?

Confirmed they are

Can you provide more information about futsal switching to SY for 25/26? Tryouts are next month but I’ve yet to see any formal announcement.

I’m sure Trish informed them of MLSN plans too. 🤣

MLSN is staying BY, I heard that from a USYS league rep in my area.

Why would a USYS league rep have insider MLSN info? I think MLSN will stay BY as well but my random guess isnt any different that a USYS person's random guess.

They were involved with committees when USSF was deciding on what to do. Said big reason ussf didn’t mandate age change was because MLSN was strongly against the change.

Just what I was told not sure why they would lie about that.

However, with the entire pipeline going SY, they will likely acquiesce.

You dont understand how pro soccer (which MLSN is more aligned) works. SY doesnt make sense in the professional world.

As long as MLSN controls the professional pathway if they choose to stay BY that's just how it will be. If anything top players will acquiesce into MLSN + BY defined leagues.

Why don’t you educate us all then why BY is better in the professional world?

Because grade in school has no bearing on playing professionally.

Next stupid question please

Nor does birth year. Next stupid response please

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Most insightful response. So youth soccer kids pre-2017 were not eligible to play pro soccer?

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Anonymous wrote:The tool on soccer website is up. Can’t imagine the cluster if clubs (and their parents/kids) are subjected to two registration systems. Kids can be u12 or u13 depending on A vs B vs C team…WTF!

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

We should have all stayed BY just cause it’s easier to understand, but if the U system identification is going to mean 2 different things depending on which league the team plays for within the same club or between clubs for that matter, then about it.

Parent of a fall boy and yes, staying BY would have been preferable to two different registration systems. We potentially will drop down an age group to a SY team to then skip u12 to go up to a BY team.

Most places this "choice" isn't going to be up to you. There's no dropping up or down. There is just the new normal.

I’m not following you. The age group is the age group. Mlsnext club and u8-u12 will be SY and u13 and older will be BY. If he’s placed appropriately for his age, he will repeat an age group at the ulittle ages and then skip an age group to go to an mlsnext team.

Some parents feel that their kid is super special will stay with the current team and play up. While some kids will play up for various reasons, there's absolutely no reason to assume you are guaranteed to stay on your current team just because you've been there with a fall birthday.

Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Repeating an age group and then skipping an age group is what would happen because we aren’t guaranteed to stay with the current team. Would rather have everything stay BY than deal with this.

well in my kid's personal case - she's an oct 2013 starting on a pre-ecnl North Atlantic team (yes real pre-ecnl not just a stupid label). She made the ECNL team for this fall and will repeat it likely next fall. It's not "perfect", but I'm guessing the expectation will be to stay on age. It hasn't actually been mentioned specifically yet, but it's easy to see how things will go. She could have 100% stayed on the current team, but she'll now be the oldest and essentially repeat a year. I'll take this over being trapped and misaligned during recruiting years.

This explains why you are not understanding what the pp is saying. Unless mlsnext changes to SY, the experience of a girl with a fall birthday at an ecnl club will be different from a boy with a fall birthday at or entering an mlsnext club.

Now let’s move on. With all the futsal national finals this week, anyone hearing if futsal will switch to SY this year?

Confirmed they are

Can you provide more information about futsal switching to SY for 25/26? Tryouts are next month but I’ve yet to see any formal announcement.

I’m sure Trish informed them of MLSN plans too. 🤣

MLSN is staying BY, I heard that from a USYS league rep in my area.

Why would a USYS league rep have insider MLSN info? I think MLSN will stay BY as well but my random guess isnt any different that a USYS person's random guess.

They were involved with committees when USSF was deciding on what to do. Said big reason ussf didn’t mandate age change was because MLSN was strongly against the change.

Just what I was told not sure why they would lie about that.

However, with the entire pipeline going SY, they will likely acquiesce.

You dont understand how pro soccer (which MLSN is more aligned) works. SY doesnt make sense in the professional world.

As long as MLSN controls the professional pathway if they choose to stay BY that's just how it will be. If anything top players will acquiesce into MLSN + BY defined leagues.

Why don’t you educate us all then why BY is better in the professional world?

Because grade in school has no bearing on playing professionally.

Next stupid question please

Somebody’s got a July kid in MLSN!

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Anonymous wrote:The tool on soccer website is up. Can’t imagine the cluster if clubs (and their parents/kids) are subjected to two registration systems. Kids can be u12 or u13 depending on A vs B vs C team…WTF!

https://www.ussoccer.com/ecosystem-review/player-registration/age-group-calculator

We should have all stayed BY just cause it’s easier to understand, but if the U system identification is going to mean 2 different things depending on which league the team plays for within the same club or between clubs for that matter, then about it.

Parent of a fall boy and yes, staying BY would have been preferable to two different registration systems. We potentially will drop down an age group to a SY team to then skip u12 to go up to a BY team.

Most places this "choice" isn't going to be up to you. There's no dropping up or down. There is just the new normal.

I’m not following you. The age group is the age group. Mlsnext club and u8-u12 will be SY and u13 and older will be BY. If he’s placed appropriately for his age, he will repeat an age group at the ulittle ages and then skip an age group to go to an mlsnext team.

Some parents feel that their kid is super special will stay with the current team and play up. While some kids will play up for various reasons, there's absolutely no reason to assume you are guaranteed to stay on your current team just because you've been there with a fall birthday.

Yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Repeating an age group and then skipping an age group is what would happen because we aren’t guaranteed to stay with the current team. Would rather have everything stay BY than deal with this.

well in my kid's personal case - she's an oct 2013 starting on a pre-ecnl North Atlantic team (yes real pre-ecnl not just a stupid label). She made the ECNL team for this fall and will repeat it likely next fall. It's not "perfect", but I'm guessing the expectation will be to stay on age. It hasn't actually been mentioned specifically yet, but it's easy to see how things will go. She could have 100% stayed on the current team, but she'll now be the oldest and essentially repeat a year. I'll take this over being trapped and misaligned during recruiting years.

This explains why you are not understanding what the pp is saying. Unless mlsnext changes to SY, the experience of a girl with a fall birthday at an ecnl club will be different from a boy with a fall birthday at or entering an mlsnext club.

Now let’s move on. With all the futsal national finals this week, anyone hearing if futsal will switch to SY this year?

Confirmed they are

Can you provide more information about futsal switching to SY for 25/26? Tryouts are next month but I’ve yet to see any formal announcement.

I’m sure Trish informed them of MLSN plans too. 🤣

MLSN is staying BY, I heard that from a USYS league rep in my area.

Why would a USYS league rep have insider MLSN info? I think MLSN will stay BY as well but my random guess isnt any different that a USYS person's random guess.

They were involved with committees when USSF was deciding on what to do. Said big reason ussf didn’t mandate age change was because MLSN was strongly against the change.

Just what I was told not sure why they would lie about that.

However, with the entire pipeline going SY, they will likely acquiesce.

You dont understand how pro soccer (which MLSN is more aligned) works. SY doesnt make sense in the professional world.

As long as MLSN controls the professional pathway if they choose to stay BY that's just how it will be. If anything top players will acquiesce into MLSN + BY defined leagues.

Why don’t you educate us all then why BY is better in the professional world?

Because grade in school has no bearing on playing professionally.

Next stupid question please

Nor does birth year. Next stupid response please

BY (Birth Year) can work with pro and youth league groupings. This is because everyone has a birthday.

SY (School Year) implies that you have to be in school to make the grouping work.