Why are people so upset about Common Core?

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The Catholic church was wrong. They know it. The schools are having to follow the "law" that protects the teachers. Blame the teachers' unions for this.

Ok, so show me the law that protects pedophiles.

Maybe the PP is thinking as follows:

1. Progressives support labor unions.
2. As a general policy, labor unions defend their members.
3. The teachers' union is a labor union.
4. something something something
5. Therefore, progressives support child abuse.

What I am saying is the progressive agenda prides itself on the concepts of rehabilitation, forgiveness, complete equality, etc. Sounds great, doesn't it? In theory.

So I will ask these folk again, how did this teacher stay on as a teacher in Montgomery County. Who allowed it? Why was it allowed? What decisions led to him being kept on? If it's unions, what politicians are union supporters? Etc.

Can you provide some kind of link that tells who "this teacher" is and supports what you're implying which is that the school district knew he was molesting kids and kept him on because they "forgave" him? Because at this point it's kind of hard to answer questions about a specific teacher when we don't even have a name to google.

Washington Post article(s). Simply google teacher montgomery county sex . Will come up as the first article. The next one will be about a woman teacher who molested an autistic boy, then fled to Hong Kong.

I've already linked to the articles, but I believe it was in a thread Jeff closed because of someone hijacking it.

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So I will ask these folk again, how did this teacher stay on as a teacher in Montgomery County. Who allowed it? Why was it allowed? What decisions led to him being kept on? If it's unions, what politicians are union supporters? Etc.

Those are all good questions. Suppose you look into them, and get back to us with the details of exactly who decided what and when they decided it.

I'm not the one that voted for them. I have no such responsibility. I do, however, research the candidates I DO vote for and hold them accountable.

Well now I have completely lost your point. My limited knowledge of this case you are referring to is that the school administration f--ked up big time. The teacher should have been gone a long time ago but the people in charge dropped the ball. Are you implying that the reason that the teacher wasn't fired sooner was because of an elected official? Cause last I checked school principals weren't elected.

The guy had a record from the 1990s. Do you really think the school district on up didn't know about that? If not, why? And why on EARTH didn't the principal. In fact, they did, as he was instructed, essentially, 'not to molest the children again'.

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So I will ask these folk again, how did this teacher stay on as a teacher in Montgomery County. Who allowed it? Why was it allowed? What decisions led to him being kept on? If it's unions, what politicians are union supporters? Etc.

Those are all good questions. Suppose you look into them, and get back to us with the details of exactly who decided what and when they decided it.

I'm not the one that voted for them. I have no such responsibility. I do, however, research the candidates I DO vote for and hold them accountable.

I didn't vote for them either. Because school administrators are not elected officials in Montgomery County.

There, now nobody needs to answer any questions!

School board members are. So are those above them.

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Washington Post article(s). Simply google teacher montgomery county sex . Will come up as the first article. The next one will be about a woman teacher who molested an autistic boy, then fled to Hong Kong.

I've already linked to the articles, but I believe it was in a thread Jeff closed because of someone hijacking it.

She wasn't an MCPS teacher, but don't let the facts get in your way.

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So I will ask these folk again, how did this teacher stay on as a teacher in Montgomery County. Who allowed it? Why was it allowed? What decisions led to him being kept on? If it's unions, what politicians are union supporters? Etc.

Those are all good questions. Suppose you look into them, and get back to us with the details of exactly who decided what and when they decided it.

I'm not the one that voted for them. I have no such responsibility. I do, however, research the candidates I DO vote for and hold them accountable.

I didn't vote for them either. Because school administrators are not elected officials in Montgomery County.

There, now nobody needs to answer any questions!

School board members are. So are those above them.

I'm not sure what your point is. You don't have to find out how come that teacher didn't get fired, but I do, because I voted for the people who are on the Board of Education? How do you know whom I voted for? If I didn't vote for anybody, do I get to not find out how come that teacher didn't get fired, too?

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So I will ask these folk again, how did this teacher stay on as a teacher in Montgomery County. Who allowed it? Why was it allowed? What decisions led to him being kept on? If it's unions, what politicians are union supporters? Etc.

Those are all good questions. Suppose you look into them, and get back to us with the details of exactly who decided what and when they decided it.

I'm not the one that voted for them. I have no such responsibility. I do, however, research the candidates I DO vote for and hold them accountable.

I didn't vote for them either. Because school administrators are not elected officials in Montgomery County.

There, now nobody needs to answer any questions!

School board members are. So are those above them.

I'm not sure what your point is. You don't have to find out how come that teacher didn't get fired, but I do, because I voted for the people who are on the Board of Education? How do you know whom I voted for? If I didn't vote for anybody, do I get to not find out how come that teacher didn't get fired, too?

My point, is that when people vote on their feelings, they don't always understand the ramifications. People on this site are always going on and on about how MD and Montgomery County is much more progressive (i.e. better) thank VA. Those progressive policies (which infiltrate No. VA as well), have repercussions. So when one votes in school board members, mayors, governors, etc. because it feels oh so good that they believe in diversity and second chances, etc, you apparently also get known sexual molesters teaching your children. Conservatives tend to be much more pragmatic about such matters, knowing that when you vote in decent, moral people, diversity is not excluded, as liberals seem to think it is. What you get is diversity AND good, decent moral people. Diversity for diversity's sake is damaging.

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Good, decent, moral people do not allow known child molesters to teach children.

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My point, is that when people vote on their feelings, they don't always understand the ramifications. People on this site are always going on and on about how MD and Montgomery County is much more progressive (i.e. better) thank VA. Those progressive policies (which infiltrate No. VA as well), have repercussions. So when one votes in school board members, mayors, governors, etc. because it feels oh so good that they believe in diversity and second chances, etc, you apparently also get known sexual molesters teaching your children. Conservatives tend to be much more pragmatic about such matters, knowing that when you vote in decent, moral people, diversity is not excluded, as liberals seem to think it is. What you get is diversity AND good, decent moral people. Diversity for diversity's sake is damaging.

Oh look, we're back to "progressives support child molestation".
Luckily there aren't any child molesters in public schools in areas where people vote for "conservatives".

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/teacher-montana-rape-case-seeks-hearing-23751305
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/04/texas-schoolteacher-too-prejudiced-to-touch-a-black-student/
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Former-Yuma-teacher-faces-additional-child-molestation-charges-259137441.html

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My point, is that when people vote on their feelings, they don't always understand the ramifications. People on this site are always going on and on about how MD and Montgomery County is much more progressive (i.e. better) thank VA. Those progressive policies (which infiltrate No. VA as well), have repercussions. So when one votes in school board members, mayors, governors, etc. because it feels oh so good that they believe in diversity and second chances, etc, you apparently also get known sexual molesters teaching your children. Conservatives tend to be much more pragmatic about such matters, knowing that when you vote in decent, moral people, diversity is not excluded, as liberals seem to think it is. What you get is diversity AND good, decent moral people. Diversity for diversity's sake is damaging.

Oh look, we're back to "progressives support child molestation".
Luckily there aren't any child molesters in public schools in areas where people vote for "conservatives".

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/teacher-montana-rape-case-seeks-hearing-23751305
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/04/texas-schoolteacher-too-prejudiced-to-touch-a-black-student/
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Former-Yuma-teacher-faces-additional-child-molestation-charges-259137441.html

The question is, did any of those school districts knowingly take in a known, convicted child molester with strict instructions "not to touch any more children?"

[Anonymous]

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My point, is that when people vote on their feelings, they don't always understand the ramifications. People on this site are always going on and on about how MD and Montgomery County is much more progressive (i.e. better) thank VA. Those progressive policies (which infiltrate No. VA as well), have repercussions. So when one votes in school board members, mayors, governors, etc. because it feels oh so good that they believe in diversity and second chances, etc, you apparently also get known sexual molesters teaching your children. Conservatives tend to be much more pragmatic about such matters, knowing that when you vote in decent, moral people, diversity is not excluded, as liberals seem to think it is. What you get is diversity AND good, decent moral people. Diversity for diversity's sake is damaging.

Oh look, we're back to "progressives support child molestation".
Luckily there aren't any child molesters in public schools in areas where people vote for "conservatves".

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/teacher-montana-rape-case-seeks-hearing-23751305
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/04/texas-schoolteacher-too-prejudiced-to-touch-a-black-student/
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Former-Yuma-teacher-faces-additional-child-molestation-charges-259137441.html

The question is, did any of those school districts knowingly take in a known, convicted child molester with strict instructions "not to touch any more children?"

Are you speculating or can you provide a link documenting this is exactly what happened?

[Anonymous]

Plus, of course, all of this is totally relevant to the Common Core standards, because...well, I'm not sure why. Maybe because it all has to do with public schools. Everything that has to do with the public schools is relevant to the Common Core standards. Every single last thing.

[Anonymous]

Lots of known pedophile priests shuffled around in the conservative Carholic church. Don't feed me your line about taxes and voting- it is beside the point. Sometimes the desire to avoid scandal on your institution trumps ethics and doing what is right. It doesn't matter what their political affiliation is, it happens on both sides.

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Anonymous wrote:Plus, of course, all of this is totally relevant to the Common Core standards, because...well, I'm not sure why. Maybe because it all has to do with public schools. Everything that has to do with the public schools is relevant to the Common Core standards. Every single last thing.

We'll be getting instructions to follow the money again soon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of known pedophile priests shuffled around in the conservative Carholic church. Don't feed me your line about taxes and voting- it is beside the point. Sometimes the desire to avoid scandal on your institution trumps ethics and doing what is right. It doesn't matter what their political affiliation is, it happens on both sides.

The 'it happens everywhere' or 'it happens on both sides' is a tired excuse.

If I am upset about the way the Catholic church protects pedophiles, I can leave the Catholic church.

I can leave the public schools as well.

The difference is I have to keep paying for them. By law.

So politics and voting DOES matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of known pedophile priests shuffled around in the conservative Carholic church. Don't feed me your line about taxes and voting- it is beside the point. Sometimes the desire to avoid scandal on your institution trumps ethics and doing what is right. It doesn't matter what their political affiliation is, it happens on both sides.

The 'it happens everywhere' or 'it happens on both sides' is a tired excuse.

If I am upset about the way the Catholic church protects pedophiles, I can leave the Catholic church.

I can leave the public schools as well.

The difference is I have to keep paying for them. By law.

So politics and voting DOES matter.

Has anybody said that politics and voting don't matter?

You vote for the people you support. I vote for the people I support. We all pay taxes. That's how it works.

And if you want to tell yourself that I'm voting for people who think that it's just peachy when teachers molest children -- well, go right ahead and tell yourself that.