Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:Rosemary Hills illustrates the naive cruelty of option 3. Rosemary Hills already goes to a “good” school in BCC, but option 3 sends them 10 minutes further to Whitman. To what end?

If the answer is “to raise the FARMS rate at Whitman,” that’s sort of missing the forrest for the trees.


The kids on the east side of the RHES boundary are definitely being used to bolster diversity wherever they are needed in the 4 options. It's clear that MCPS sees and treats them as tokens.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s the reason it’s not as simple as Tilden Middle School plus 1-2 middles from Wheaton at Woodward? Blair magnet moves to Northwood with the extra space. Are too many middles in the walk zone for Wheaton?

Has anyone seen why this cant be a possibility?


That would make too much sense. This is MCPS. Keep up.
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Anonymous wrote:Rosemary Hills illustrates the naive cruelty of option 3. Rosemary Hills already goes to a “good” school in BCC, but option 3 sends them 10 minutes further to Whitman. To what end?

If the answer is “to raise the FARMS rate at Whitman,” that’s sort of missing the forrest for the trees.


The kids on the east side of the RHES boundary are definitely being used to bolster diversity wherever they are needed in the 4 options. It's clear that MCPS sees and treats them as tokens.


This.
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Anonymous wrote:Maximizing walkers is the low hanging fruit. It doesn't cost extra money, it's (usually) popular with the neighboring areas, and it's good for sustainability. Obviously some schools' walk zones will need to be larger or smaller than others, based on the building capacity, nearby highways or other barriers considered hazardous, etc. But I would really like to see them come up with new options with this as a foundational goal, and show their work.


Increasing walking zones won’t help lower the absentee rate. Kids already skip school when it is actually raining or when it’s predicted to rain on their walk home.

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Also, how many kids at the 1.9.mile mark actually walk to school, especially inexpensive areas? I'd wager most carpool.


Carpooling only works if parents or other kids can drive them. I know many who walk that far. Or, bike or scooter.


So….decrease the walk zones to a mile?


That would help.


Also something they can’t afford.
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Anonymous wrote:Maximizing walkers is the low hanging fruit. It doesn't cost extra money, it's (usually) popular with the neighboring areas, and it's good for sustainability. Obviously some schools' walk zones will need to be larger or smaller than others, based on the building capacity, nearby highways or other barriers considered hazardous, etc. But I would really like to see them come up with new options with this as a foundational goal, and show their work.


Increasing walking zones won’t help lower the absentee rate. Kids already skip school when it is actually raining or when it’s predicted to rain on their walk home.

+1
Also, how many kids at the 1.9.mile mark actually walk to school, especially inexpensive areas? I'd wager most carpool.


Carpooling only works if parents or other kids can drive them. I know many who walk that far. Or, bike or scooter.


So….decrease the walk zones to a mile?


That would help.


Also something they can’t afford.


They can add extra stops on current buses not full.
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Anonymous wrote:Rosemary Hills illustrates the naive cruelty of option 3. Rosemary Hills already goes to a “good” school in BCC, but option 3 sends them 10 minutes further to Whitman. To what end?

If the answer is “to raise the FARMS rate at Whitman,” that’s sort of missing the forrest for the trees.


They should necessarily raise farms and remove it from other schools as those schools loose extra funding.
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Anonymous wrote:Maximizing walkers is the low hanging fruit. It doesn't cost extra money, it's (usually) popular with the neighboring areas, and it's good for sustainability. Obviously some schools' walk zones will need to be larger or smaller than others, based on the building capacity, nearby highways or other barriers considered hazardous, etc. But I would really like to see them come up with new options with this as a foundational goal, and show their work.


Increasing walking zones won’t help lower the absentee rate. Kids already skip school when it is actually raining or when it’s predicted to rain on their walk home.

+1
Also, how many kids at the 1.9.mile mark actually walk to school, especially inexpensive areas? I'd wager most carpool.


Carpooling only works if parents or other kids can drive them. I know many who walk that far. Or, bike or scooter.


So….decrease the walk zones to a mile?


That would help.


Also something they can’t afford.


They can add extra stops on current buses not full.


What buses aren’t full? Some kids don’t even get seats on our bus. Yes we asked for another bus but everyone started driving their kids instead.
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Anonymous wrote:Rosemary Hills illustrates the naive cruelty of option 3. Rosemary Hills already goes to a “good” school in BCC, but option 3 sends them 10 minutes further to Whitman. To what end?

If the answer is “to raise the FARMS rate at Whitman,” that’s sort of missing the forrest for the trees.


They should necessarily raise farms and remove it from other schools as those schools loose extra funding.


They should do this by punishing the very kids this should purportedly help?
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Anonymous wrote:Rosemary Hills illustrates the naive cruelty of option 3. Rosemary Hills already goes to a “good” school in BCC, but option 3 sends them 10 minutes further to Whitman. To what end?

If the answer is “to raise the FARMS rate at Whitman,” that’s sort of missing the forrest for the trees.


They should necessarily raise farms and remove it from other schools as those schools loose extra funding.


They should do this by punishing the very kids this should purportedly help?


They aren’t helping kids by bussing them across town. Instead strengthen their schools. Give our kids the same opportunities as yours.
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Anonymous wrote:Rosemary Hills illustrates the naive cruelty of option 3. Rosemary Hills already goes to a “good” school in BCC, but option 3 sends them 10 minutes further to Whitman. To what end?

If the answer is “to raise the FARMS rate at Whitman,” that’s sort of missing the forrest for the trees.


They should necessarily raise farms and remove it from other schools as those schools loose extra funding.


Yes, those specific kids already go to BCC and get the desired same opportunities. Why send them 10 minutes farther? Who is that helping?

They should do this by punishing the very kids this should purportedly help?


They aren’t helping kids by bussing them across town. Instead strengthen their schools. Give our kids the same opportunities as yours.
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Anonymous wrote:Rosemary Hills illustrates the naive cruelty of option 3. Rosemary Hills already goes to a “good” school in BCC, but option 3 sends them 10 minutes further to Whitman. To what end?

If the answer is “to raise the FARMS rate at Whitman,” that’s sort of missing the forrest for the trees.


They should necessarily raise farms and remove it from other schools as those schools loose extra funding.


They should do this by punishing the very kids this should purportedly help?


They aren’t helping kids by bussing them across town. Instead strengthen their schools. Give our kids the same opportunities as yours.


Yes, those specific kids already go to BCC and get the desired same opportunities. Why send them 10 minutes farther? Who is that helping?
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Anonymous wrote:Maximizing walkers is the low hanging fruit. It doesn't cost extra money, it's (usually) popular with the neighboring areas, and it's good for sustainability. Obviously some schools' walk zones will need to be larger or smaller than others, based on the building capacity, nearby highways or other barriers considered hazardous, etc. But I would really like to see them come up with new options with this as a foundational goal, and show their work.


Increasing walking zones won’t help lower the absentee rate. Kids already skip school when it is actually raining or when it’s predicted to rain on their walk home.

+1
Also, how many kids at the 1.9.mile mark actually walk to school, especially inexpensive areas? I'd wager most carpool.


Carpooling only works if parents or other kids can drive them. I know many who walk that far. Or, bike or scooter.


So….decrease the walk zones to a mile?


That would help.


Also something they can’t afford.


They can add extra stops on current buses not full.


What buses aren’t full? Some kids don’t even get seats on our bus. Yes we asked for another bus but everyone started driving their kids instead.


The buses aren’t exactly the panacea you think they are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Every school should be required to have 20% farms. Logistically: set aside 20% of seats for low income moco kids. Low income Parents will apply and can be lotteried if necessary and busing will be handled. The remaining 80% can be walk zone. Done. No more playing favorites with rich-kid only schools. Will some schools still have more? sure. No more re-districting every few years. the fairness goes up and the burden is eased on the heavy farms schools. Moco only has 35% farms rate overall. This is a very wealthy county and easy to solve this issue.


I see 44% last year.
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Anonymous wrote:Rosemary Hills illustrates the naive cruelty of option 3. Rosemary Hills already goes to a “good” school in BCC, but option 3 sends them 10 minutes further to Whitman. To what end?

If the answer is “to raise the FARMS rate at Whitman,” that’s sort of missing the forrest for the trees.


They should necessarily raise farms and remove it from other schools as those schools loose extra funding.


They should do this by punishing the very kids this should purportedly help?


They aren’t helping kids by bussing them across town. Instead strengthen their schools. Give our kids the same opportunities as yours.


Yes, those specific kids already go to BCC and get the desired same opportunities. Why send them 10 minutes farther? Who is that helping?


They are helping MCPS appear to make Whitman less white!
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Anonymous wrote:The only schools with lower than 20% FARMS (for high school) are Whitman, Wooten, Poolesville, Churchill, and WJ.

I think WJ is at 18%


Why not just let anyone go to Whitman if they can provide their own transportation? It’s under capacity.


THIS.

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