Dupont circle deteriorating

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Anonymous wrote:Saw Gonzaga students handing out care packages and talking to residents in the NoMa encampments today. We can sit behind our screens and complain about how things should be, but nothing is going to change until a quorum of people put actions behind words.

They've been really active on that front! I saw a ton of them doing the same thing a week before. Lots of volunteers in NoMa and by the Hill are coming to the encampments with wheelbarrows of food, supplies, etc.

I'm sure that makes them feel good, but all it does is help/encourage these tent communities to stay, which isn't good for anyone.

Agreed.

How does this help the problem long-term? It just encourages people to stay in these tent communities, which are definitely not what the city should be aiming for as a permanent solution.

Liberal here. (non-fascist, opposed to the GOP from Reagan through Trump and all in between. Does that make me a liberal? Anyway.)

The tent cities are bad. No one should be living on the streets. This is 100% Bowser's problem to address and the only way to fix it is to provide services to get people off the streets (carrot) and then require they not camp on the streets (stick.)

Is there any effort out there to do this?

Not all that liberal (well, by DC standards, but very "classically" liber) and I agree with you 1000%. Giving people the "freedom" to camp outdoors is a travesty.

You think the problem is that they have too much freedom? I don't understand. Do you think that if we had the police kick them out and toss their belongings that they would suddenly clean up, get a job, and rent an apartment??

That's what has to be done unless DC decides they want to invest in homeless services. It's easy to talk about offering "services" yet no one in DC is willing to pay the taxes to implement.

I would like to pay more in taxes to support this. It really is the only reasonable option.

The status quo of half-assing it is awful to people living on the street and looks like shit for everyone around.

The option of just pushing them away is cruel and inhuman. We're not fascists.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw Gonzaga students handing out care packages and talking to residents in the NoMa encampments today. We can sit behind our screens and complain about how things should be, but nothing is going to change until a quorum of people put actions behind words.

They've been really active on that front! I saw a ton of them doing the same thing a week before. Lots of volunteers in NoMa and by the Hill are coming to the encampments with wheelbarrows of food, supplies, etc.

I'm sure that makes them feel good, but all it does is help/encourage these tent communities to stay, which isn't good for anyone.

Agreed.

How does this help the problem long-term? It just encourages people to stay in these tent communities, which are definitely not what the city should be aiming for as a permanent solution.

Liberal here. (non-fascist, opposed to the GOP from Reagan through Trump and all in between. Does that make me a liberal? Anyway.)

The tent cities are bad. No one should be living on the streets. This is 100% Bowser's problem to address and the only way to fix it is to provide services to get people off the streets (carrot) and then require they not camp on the streets (stick.)

Is there any effort out there to do this?

Not all that liberal (well, by DC standards, but very "classically" liber) and I agree with you 1000%. Giving people the "freedom" to camp outdoors is a travesty.

You think the problem is that they have too much freedom? I don't understand. Do you think that if we had the police kick them out and toss their belongings that they would suddenly clean up, get a job, and rent an apartment??

That's what has to be done unless DC decides they want to invest in homeless services. It's easy to talk about offering "services" yet no one in DC is willing to pay the taxes to implement.

DC has a budget surplus; there's no need for further taxes. They also have a money-printing machine in the form of speed cams (and now, according to my neighborhood listserv, stop sign cams)! Money from that alone would be more than enough to cover homeless services. But hey, Muriel has her GGW and Reddit armies screaming that everything described above is "part of city life and you're a bigot if you don't like it," essentially doing the work of maintaining the rapidly declining status quo for her.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw Gonzaga students handing out care packages and talking to residents in the NoMa encampments today. We can sit behind our screens and complain about how things should be, but nothing is going to change until a quorum of people put actions behind words.

They've been really active on that front! I saw a ton of them doing the same thing a week before. Lots of volunteers in NoMa and by the Hill are coming to the encampments with wheelbarrows of food, supplies, etc.

I'm sure that makes them feel good, but all it does is help/encourage these tent communities to stay, which isn't good for anyone.

Agreed.

How does this help the problem long-term? It just encourages people to stay in these tent communities, which are definitely not what the city should be aiming for as a permanent solution.

Liberal here. (non-fascist, opposed to the GOP from Reagan through Trump and all in between. Does that make me a liberal? Anyway.)

The tent cities are bad. No one should be living on the streets. This is 100% Bowser's problem to address and the only way to fix it is to provide services to get people off the streets (carrot) and then require they not camp on the streets (stick.)

Is there any effort out there to do this?

Not all that liberal (well, by DC standards, but very "classically" liber) and I agree with you 1000%. Giving people the "freedom" to camp outdoors is a travesty.

You think the problem is that they have too much freedom? I don't understand. Do you think that if we had the police kick them out and toss their belongings that they would suddenly clean up, get a job, and rent an apartment??

That's what has to be done unless DC decides they want to invest in homeless services. It's easy to talk about offering "services" yet no one in DC is willing to pay the taxes to implement.

DC has a budget surplus; there's no need for further taxes. They also have a money-printing machine in the form of speed cams (and now, according to my neighborhood listserv, stop sign cams)! Money from that alone would be more than enough to cover homeless services. But hey, Muriel has her GGW and Reddit armies screaming that everything described above is "part of city life and you're a bigot if you don't like it," essentially doing the work of maintaining the rapidly declining status quo for her.

I don't know of any actual human being who thinks that homelessness as an aspect of city life is a reason to not address the underlying issues with compassion.

[Anonymous]

What DuPont needs is for DC to raise taxes on the wealthy and stop arresting predominantly black young males for petty crimes like stolen property, possession of heroin. Also, legalize prostitution and gambling in DC.

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Could DuPont’s decline be another result of the rise in white supremacy in the area?

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There's been a lot written about the encampments along 17th street and there has been a lot of drama between the homeless and area residents.

Somewhat sympathetic: https://www.streetsensemedia.org/article/encampment-dupont-circle-vigilante-investigation/#.YGeF9K9Kg2w

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/175943/the-coronavirus-emergency-didnt-stop-an-encampment-clearing/

Gofundme for the couple outside of Safeway: https://www.gofundme.com/f/steviesai

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News flash: It's Dupont, not DuPont

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Anonymous wrote:Could DuPont’s decline be another result of the rise in white supremacy in the area?

Idea: let’s have the tent inhabitants take over decision making for the city. Not sure we could do worse than Bowser.

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How is the Dupont Circle/17th area now? Has it recovered from the pandemic? I'm moving to DC and considering living there. Are there certain blocks/areas I should avoid?

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Anonymous wrote:What DuPont needs is for DC to raise taxes on the wealthy and stop arresting predominantly black young males for petty crimes like stolen property, possession of heroin. Also, legalize prostitution and gambling in DC.

This is satire, no? Because the ensuing free-for-all would be even worse than the half-arsed enforcement we get now. That will hardly make Dupont better.

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Anonymous wrote:DC has a budget surplus; there's no need for further taxes. They also have a money-printing machine in the form of speed cams (and now, according to my neighborhood listserv, stop sign cams)! Money from that alone would be more than enough to cover homeless services. But hey, Muriel has her GGW and Reddit armies screaming that everything described above is "part of city life and you're a bigot if you don't like it," essentially doing the work of maintaining the rapidly declining status quo for her.

I love when DC drivers play the victim card when the mayor's literal voter base is rich suburban drivers and DC drivers. She allows dangerous drivers to menace our streets with fake tags, high speeds, no traffic enforcement and zero consequences for their dangerous driving behavior.

It's pretty easy to not get speed camera tickets in DC. Stay below 30. Or else stop crying already.

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This is satire, no? Because the ensuing free-for-all would be even worse than the half-arsed enforcement we get now. That will hardly make Dupont better.

Remember when you thought the sky would fall if MJ was legalized? Lol, way to go.

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This is satire, no? Because the ensuing free-for-all would be even worse than the half-arsed enforcement we get now. That will hardly make Dupont better.

Remember when you thought the sky would fall if MJ was legalized? Lol, way to go.

It did fall. Everything stinks, our public spaces are trashed and you people are too out of it to care, and people are driving high. The world is worse, and the populace is in no condition to fix it.

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PP bumped this two year old thread to ask if anything has changed. She should have started a new thread. Anyway, I think the camps are still there but the mayor has cleared out some of the other homeless encampments recently—I don’t know if DuPont is on the schedule to be cleared or not. I would not move there with kids but would consider it as someone without kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw Gonzaga students handing out care packages and talking to residents in the NoMa encampments today. We can sit behind our screens and complain about how things should be, but nothing is going to change until a quorum of people put actions behind words.

They've been really active on that front! I saw a ton of them doing the same thing a week before. Lots of volunteers in NoMa and by the Hill are coming to the encampments with wheelbarrows of food, supplies, etc.

I'm sure that makes them feel good, but all it does is help/encourage these tent communities to stay, which isn't good for anyone.

Agreed.

How does this help the problem long-term? It just encourages people to stay in these tent communities, which are definitely not what the city should be aiming for as a permanent solution.

Liberal here. (non-fascist, opposed to the GOP from Reagan through Trump and all in between. Does that make me a liberal? Anyway.)

The tent cities are bad. No one should be living on the streets. This is 100% Bowser's problem to address and the only way to fix it is to provide services to get people off the streets (carrot) and then require they not camp on the streets (stick.)

Is there any effort out there to do this?

Not all that liberal (well, by DC standards, but very "classically" liber) and I agree with you 1000%. Giving people the "freedom" to camp outdoors is a travesty.

You think the problem is that they have too much freedom? I don't understand. Do you think that if we had the police kick them out and toss their belongings that they would suddenly clean up, get a job, and rent an apartment??

That's what has to be done unless DC decides they want to invest in homeless services. It's easy to talk about offering "services" yet no one in DC is willing to pay the taxes to implement.

I would like to pay more in taxes to support this. It really is the only reasonable option.

The status quo of half-assing it is awful to people living on the street and looks like shit for everyone around.

The option of just pushing them away is cruel and inhuman. We're not fascists.

Ok but this is the only effective option. Providing services and helping just makes the problem worse. If you build it, they will come. The more money spent on homelessness, the more homeless you will have.

Not sure why it’s cruel to push away someone who is disrespect enough to live on a city street and bother people. If your next door neighbor decided to camp out in your yard, would you go along with it and think it’s cruel to ask them to stop?

People like PP are directly responsible for the increase in homelessness. They don’t get it.