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Anonymous wrote:I watched it and was expecting much worse than what I saw after reading these articles. There were a few dancing sequences that they could’ve left the close-up shots out of but I thought the story was mostly centered around the story with her mother and family.

So other than the soft core child porn it was alright? Good to know.

I guess I just didn’t see it unless Netflix edited the film from earlier. I’ve had to sit through a lot of dance competitions and it wasn’t much worse than anything I’ve seen there. The photo she took that I read about was implied , you didn’t actually see a photo.

You might have a very warped idea of things. I've seen clips and the stuff was sick beyond words. I dont want to see close ups of 10 year old crotches though- YMMV

Is this the movie we are talking about?
I'm very confused about the controversy other than the shitty promo photo from Netflix. It seems like a commentary on shit we feed girls and the result that they are going to want likes and what not online starting at 11, set against an immgrant/culture clash story?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEVQ6HwBflg

Is it just drastically different from the trailer? I don't see satanic in there- I see someone holding up a mirror to social media/ sexualization culture, for sure. I don't understand the satanic part? Is this all just that weird Qanon online group stirring up shit- because they believe something like democrats eat and sexually abuse kids in pizza places and such?

You know, I'm really not sure how to explain to you that close up shots of children's bottoms while they twerk is essentially soft core porn. That seems like something that should be intuitive, and, if it's not, it's either because the person has some kind of insurmountable cognitive deficit or they just don't want to see it. Neither is solvable- not by me at least- maybe God!

I wish you the best! And I hope don't have children!

The fact that you view children dancing as porn says a lot about you. Most people don’t find kids sexual. Gross.

Obviously twerking and sexualized dancing is sexual in nature. The fact that you want to deny or ignore that pedophiles exist says a lot about your motives. Sickening and shameful.

I don’t deny you exist. Just saying most adults would find the dancing in the movie to be awkward and not sexual.

Most people find it extremely awkward to watch... because there's a huge amount of pedophiles out there. Actually awkward is a mild term for it. Which I suspect you know, so it says it all that you're playing dumb. disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone actually watched Cuties on Netflix? Thoughts?

I watched it. It’s a sad movie about a bunch of neglected trouble maker girls who are not innocent victims of social media or dance videos.

They are typical trouble maker girls we all knew in middle school who got bad grades, got in fights all the time and were pregnant in their later teens.

Nothing more, nothing less in this movie.

The director did NOT make the couple HUGE jumps from dorking around dancing delinquents to total tramps (posting pics of her naked crotch, total makeover to 25 yo sexpot at school, pounding a pencil through a boys hand) very well at all. Must have been done to make the movie move along.

By far the main message was as old as time: bad grades, loser friends, delinquent parents, dress/act like a slut, turn into a slut. This happened in every country and city, well before social media.

As for the movie having kiddie porn, yeah. Anytime the sound track came on for a slutty dance it was like flipping a switch.

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Am actually surprised there was no Underaged smoking, valuing, drugs or alcohol in the movie. It would have fit right in and would have been the next logical step. Instead of stealing moms cash for shopping for trampy clothes it’d be drugs.

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Must have been gross to film and act in during all the butt scenes.

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Anonymous wrote:It's clearly about the challenges of growing up as an adolescent girl in a culture that aggressively sexualizes young women while also depriving young women of any agency around their own bodies. I thought it was interesting to see this idea through the eyes of a Senegalese immigrant girl in a Western country that is not the US, and I also found the way the story explores Amy's relationship to her Muslim culture versus how she relates to the broader mainstream culture to be very thoughtfully done.

It's so dumb that this movie has received tons of negative attention just because Netflix messed up the way it advertised the film. It does not exploit young women. The opposite -- it is a story told from the point of view of a young woman that honestly addresses issues young girls everywhere have to deal with. It made me think a lot about how I responded to sexualized imagery and pressure as an adolescent in the 90s. Plus it's a critically claimed movie that won an award at Sundance, directed by a black woman. The "controversy" around it is dumb. Watch it.

The movie is disjointed. Within a day or the the protagonist goes from getting kicked out of school and posting naked crotch shots to *suddenly* leaving in the middle of a dance contest to go dress her age and jump rope. Ok...

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Anonymous wrote:Just finished watching the movie. As someone who has family in France and who goes there often, it was very relatable. The sexualized dance routine was just a small part of the movie. The main theme was how family dysfunction negatively affects young children, causing them to rebel against their family’s traditions, religion, etc. In this case, it was a young Muslim girl and the director was obviously going for the shock factor (and obviously it worked judging by the comments on this thread). Those saying it’s CP have obviously not watched the movie in its entirety.

+1. I don't even think you need a connection to France either to find it relatable. I thought it was a really well done movie about the lives of girls and adolescence shot from an obviously female perspective. The dance routine was really pretty minimal and again,. reflective of the culture girls are being raised in. I thought it was almost endearing how they were trying to sexualize themselves, but were actually pretty goofy and awkward. That's reflective of a lot of women's experiences as they are going through puberty and learning how to shape themselves for the world's view and particularly, the male gaze. As a woman, it was almost cute. Like you'd have to already be a gross pedophile who walks around in the summer looking for pre-teens in short shorts to find it really sexual and anything approaching "child porn." The pearl clutching seems entirely unwarranted to me. It sort of reminds me of when the movie 13 came out in 2003 and people FREAKED OUT.

9 out of 10 girls like this were on the fast track to dropping out and having kids from various men. They know very well most of their classmates are not dressing like that, acting like that, or dancing like that.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s an important point many are missing about this film. It’s a French movie by a Senegalese immigrant. It has nothing to do with your pearl-clutching prudish American culture. As a matter of fact, the danse scenes are typical of traditional Senegalese dancing. Just watch the video below to understand.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oKZM1XAbREQ

Except that Amy in the movie got it from watching pole dancing butt twerk videos 24/7 and memorizing / practicing them.

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Anonymous wrote:This has been going on for such a long time and now outrage? The only reason it is getting outrage is because QAnon jumped on the whole #SavetheChildren thing, all their followers are following along and now the Republican politicians are getting involved. It's a QAnon/QAnon followers outrage. Where were they years ago when all these other girls were being sexualized.

What is your point here? Do you condone the 11-year old gyration video or not?

Ok, then, so you are okay with 11 year olds rubbing their crotch and stimulating sex while dancing?

Nobody was rubbing their crotch or simulating sex. Obviously you didn’t watch the movie like most of the posters in this thread.

The guys here liked the part where they stand up, spread em and put their hands between their legs to spider grab the backside of their crotches. That plus licking their fingers all the time, smacking butts, big orgasmic sighs. Yeah just some tribal drum dance....but done in a swimsuits, sparkle eye shadow and blue hair.

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Anonymous wrote:For those who don’t wish to or can’t watch the clip that was posted, let me describe it as non-explicitly as possible. Girls that appear to be 12 or 13 years old are wearing skin tight booty shorts that fully expose the shape of their private parts. They gyrate around and twerk both in the air on the floor. They rub their hands over their private parts multiple times and smack their own butts. They gyrate over their dance partners who also slap each other’s butts to music singing “do you want it”. They turn their backsides to the audience and bend over into a doggy position and run their hands between their crotches and thighs.

Someone explain to me again what part of this has to do with being black?

Haven’t watched the clip, but I’ll play.

I don’t think of what you described as “black.”

I do however think of it as urban/pop culture dancing related to certain musical genres. Have you ever seen a rap video?

You don’t see the same dancing in country music videos.

Both Beyoncé and Brittany were sexualized by their parents and managers. Miley Cyrus seems incapable of keeping her clothes on. Lizzo and Cardi B like to dress skimpily and twerk. Latinas do it, too (JLo, Shakira).

It’s a music and dancing thing. And, black artists tend to be more successful and popular, so it’s heavily connected to them.

I watched it and thought it was a well done film. If you watch the movie, it is definitely not a "black thing". One of those girls everyone here is calling white is Latina and all of the music they are dancing to is reggaeton. The girls watch these reggaeton videos and then mimic the dance moves. They practice for a competition and perform this highly sexualized dance at the end and it is VERY clear the audience members are really uncomfortable with it. The protagonist, Amy, who was at first shy and curious about these bawdier girls and manages to work her way into this "cool" group and teaches herself to dance, has a crisis of confidence on stage and realizes that in rebelling she may have gone too far. The whole film is about female adolescence and the testing of boundaries, coupled with the cultural aspect of all (? there is one white girl where it is unclear) being immigrants trying to figure out where they fit into their new country. The dancing makes sense in context and isn't really titillating unless you are already inclined to be turned on by 11-13 year olds.

You forgot the crotch shot videos they post to social media scene. You couldn’t miss it in the movie, a loud song came on and lots of sucking fingers, twerking and sexy faces. Amy was the star.

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Anonymous wrote:The trailer above does not reflect the disturbing aspects of the movie.
It’s either been scrubbed due to the controversy or it never contained them.

Check out this video for a breakdown of the disturbing scenes/aspects:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=exCNHEGnZ5M

There’s one scene where 11 year olds do basically a strip tease to
Avoid punishment from two old men security guards....the 11 year olds grind the floor in a way that looks like sex.

The filmography has lots of lingering shots on the 11 year olds
Crotches.

Scenes like this is where the movie breaks down from its later self-reported “blame culture” messaging.

They do a strip tease to guards to avoid getting the cops called after breaking in.

Amy starts taking her clothes and pants off to secure her make cousin when he discovers she stole his smart phone for weeks (and he kept paying the bill, what a hoot!)

Wtf did they learn that and think it’s normal or that that’s what everybody must be doing?

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Anonymous wrote:I watched it and was expecting much worse than what I saw after reading these articles. There were a few dancing sequences that they could’ve left the close-up shots out of but I thought the story was mostly centered around the story with her mother and family.

So other than the soft core child porn it was alright? Good to know.

I guess I just didn’t see it unless Netflix edited the film from earlier. I’ve had to sit through a lot of dance competitions and it wasn’t much worse than anything I’ve seen there. The photo she took that I read about was implied , you didn’t actually see a photo.

You might have a very warped idea of things. I've seen clips and the stuff was sick beyond words. I dont want to see close ups of 10 year old crotches though- YMMV

Is this the movie we are talking about?
I'm very confused about the controversy other than the shitty promo photo from Netflix. It seems like a commentary on shit we feed girls and the result that they are going to want likes and what not online starting at 11, set against an immgrant/culture clash story?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEVQ6HwBflg

Is it just drastically different from the trailer? I don't see satanic in there- I see someone holding up a mirror to social media/ sexualization culture, for sure. I don't understand the satanic part? Is this all just that weird Qanon online group stirring up shit- because they believe something like democrats eat and sexually abuse kids in pizza places and such?

You know, I'm really not sure how to explain to you that close up shots of children's bottoms while they twerk is essentially soft core porn. That seems like something that should be intuitive, and, if it's not, it's either because the person has some kind of insurmountable cognitive deficit or they just don't want to see it. Neither is solvable- not by me at least- maybe God!

I wish you the best! And I hope don't have children!

The fact that you view children dancing as porn says a lot about you. Most people don’t find kids sexual. Gross.

Obviously twerking and sexualized dancing is sexual in nature. The fact that you want to deny or ignore that pedophiles exist says a lot about your motives. Sickening and shameful.

I don’t deny you exist. Just saying most adults would find the dancing in the movie to be awkward and not sexual.

Most people find it extremely awkward to watch... because there's a huge amount of pedophiles out there. Actually awkward is a mild term for it. Which I suspect you know, so it says it all that you're playing dumb. disgusting.

Agree. Falling in to the bad crowd the first half of the movie and then Amy transforming their dance routine into porn was done at 500mph. After that they were not dancing awkwardly; they were quite in to it for several dance scenes. Heck even the religious cleansing seance she was twerking in her underwear standing up and on the floor. that’s about when most moms would have sent her back to the village!

The dancing was not awkward. Watching it feels awkward because it’s child porn closeups plus is overdone, too jarring. Bipolar almost, the movie and main character.

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Agree, the girls were not dancing awkwardly; they were well trained and well practiced when doing their Staircase video, tryouts and main show.

What’s awkward is porn dancing of preteens having their first periods or before.

What’s also awkward are the disjointed steps in the movie where suddenly the girls are sex dancers and suddenly the main girl is immoral and violent (stealing phones, stealing cash, lying, accusing her 4 yo brother, stabbing a classmate through his hand, shoving a girl into the river who can’t swim), all in the name of twerking with provocative faces and body language.

She was suddenly obsessed and an addict. If a man had taken her into a van during any of her scantily clad walks under the freeway, they’d have been gone forever. In many ways.

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I felt like Maddie in Dance Moms when she did “Chandelier?” Was bordering on porny. It made me uncomfortable. I thought wow this young girl potting and making so much money from it. Gave me a queasy feeling. Maddie was what 12?

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Not potting porning. Maybe not a word.

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Late to the game. Just watched. Feel sick.
I only watched b/c the title of this thread kept coming up and I just watched it before reading the thread. Now I will have gross dreams.

Why was she sexualized? Dad getting a new wife doesn't explain. I get all the girls are sexualized but still. This one, Amy, is from a conservative family.

All of them have way too much freedom.

Also, why did the one girl apparently vomit in the public toilet and that was it? Did that make her worthy of pushing into a river?

I'm so grossed out and WTFed...