How to pick between Columbia, Cornell or Princeton?

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Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.

The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.

I would pick Harvard over Princeton because:
1) location
2) you get to say you went to Harvard. Actual education is overrated. I don’t remember most of what I learned content wise in classes but it doesn’t really matter, does it?

Well, I’d pick Princeton over Harvard because

1. Location
2. The actual education.

You’re joking right? Only Princeton legacy kids pick Princeton over Harvard or Yale. And that is because they get a VIP boost with the super selective eating clubs

[Anonymous]

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

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The Princeton name opens more doors in my experience. That said, all three are excellent and your child should be commended for such an impressive acceptance list.

Did any school give a better financial aid package?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.

The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.

Let's help you out again; per the OP "Did not apply to Harvard, Yale, Brown or Dartmouth. Waitlisted at UPenn."

Let's help you out again: The argument is regarding isolated suburban colleges and non-isolated urban colleges. Do I need to connect the dots for you or are you a big enough girl to get it now?

Such a shame you can't articulate your argument either clearly or consistently. You aren't helping yourself, much less the OP.

My position has been rather clear and consistent, however at some point the conversation needs to be at a high-school level, not a kindergarten one as you might prefer.

Do you enjoy being a kid?

Who do you think has better "networking" or whatever it is you're imagining, urban Northeastern or St. John's or Fordham, versus rural Dartmouth and Williams and suburban Princeton and Duke?

Shrugs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.

The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.

Let's help you out again; per the OP "Did not apply to Harvard, Yale, Brown or Dartmouth. Waitlisted at UPenn."

Let's help you out again: The argument is regarding isolated suburban colleges and non-isolated urban colleges. Do I need to connect the dots for you or are you a big enough girl to get it now?

Such a shame you can't articulate your argument either clearly or consistently. You aren't helping yourself, much less the OP.

My position has been rather clear and consistent, however at some point the conversation needs to be at a high-school level, not a kindergarten one as you might prefer.

Do you enjoy being a kid?

Who do you think has better "networking" or whatever it is you're imagining, urban Northeastern or St. John's or Fordham, versus rural Dartmouth and Williams and suburban Princeton and Duke?

Shrugs.

DP. I don't think you understand college. College kids don't "network." Like, did you imagine them metroing over to the nearest investment bank, knocking on the door, and joining up for happy hour? lol

[Anonymous]

This thread way off topic and it was a humble brag in the first place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.

The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.

Let's help you out again; per the OP "Did not apply to Harvard, Yale, Brown or Dartmouth. Waitlisted at UPenn."

Let's help you out again: The argument is regarding isolated suburban colleges and non-isolated urban colleges. Do I need to connect the dots for you or are you a big enough girl to get it now?

Such a shame you can't articulate your argument either clearly or consistently. You aren't helping yourself, much less the OP.

My position has been rather clear and consistent, however at some point the conversation needs to be at a high-school level, not a kindergarten one as you might prefer.

Do you enjoy being a kid?

Who do you think has better "networking" or whatever it is you're imagining, urban Northeastern or St. John's or Fordham, versus rural Dartmouth and Williams and suburban Princeton and Duke?

Shrugs.

DP. I don't think you understand college. College kids don't "network." Like, did you imagine them metroing over to the nearest investment bank, knocking on the door, and joining up for happy hour? lol

Someone has been arguing that kids want to go to Boston or a big city so that they can meet and hang out and network with other college kids from different colleges. I didn't come up with network.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.

The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.

Let's help you out again; per the OP "Did not apply to Harvard, Yale, Brown or Dartmouth. Waitlisted at UPenn."

Let's help you out again: The argument is regarding isolated suburban colleges and non-isolated urban colleges. Do I need to connect the dots for you or are you a big enough girl to get it now?

Such a shame you can't articulate your argument either clearly or consistently. You aren't helping yourself, much less the OP.

My position has been rather clear and consistent, however at some point the conversation needs to be at a high-school level, not a kindergarten one as you might prefer.

Do you enjoy being a kid?

Who do you think has better "networking" or whatever it is you're imagining, urban Northeastern or St. John's or Fordham, versus rural Dartmouth and Williams and suburban Princeton and Duke?

Shrugs.

DP. I don't think you understand college. College kids don't "network." Like, did you imagine them metroing over to the nearest investment bank, knocking on the door, and joining up for happy hour? lol

Erm, college kids do network. That's partially the purpose of business fraternities, engineering fraternities, regular fraternities and other social and academic organizations.

And in environments where there are multiple colleges nearby, similar college organizations from various schools will set up events together (beyond parties).

PP I don't think you realize the ambitiousness of college students these days. Mediocre college students perhaps don't network and perhaps spend the entirety of college smoking weed in their dorms.

Ambitious, go-getter types do. And college networking does not consist of going to happy hour (even networking in the job market does not consist of going to happy hour lmao).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.

The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.

Let's help you out again; per the OP "Did not apply to Harvard, Yale, Brown or Dartmouth. Waitlisted at UPenn."

Let's help you out again: The argument is regarding isolated suburban colleges and non-isolated urban colleges. Do I need to connect the dots for you or are you a big enough girl to get it now?

Such a shame you can't articulate your argument either clearly or consistently. You aren't helping yourself, much less the OP.

My position has been rather clear and consistent, however at some point the conversation needs to be at a high-school level, not a kindergarten one as you might prefer.

Do you enjoy being a kid?

Who do you think has better "networking" or whatever it is you're imagining, urban Northeastern or St. John's or Fordham, versus rural Dartmouth and Williams and suburban Princeton and Duke?

Shrugs.

DP. I don't think you understand college. College kids don't "network." Like, did you imagine them metroing over to the nearest investment bank, knocking on the door, and joining up for happy hour? lol

Erm, college kids do network. That's partially the purpose of business fraternities, engineering fraternities, regular fraternities and other social and academic organizations.

And in environments where there are multiple colleges nearby, similar college organizations from various schools will set up events together (beyond parties).

PP I don't think you realize the ambitiousness of college students these days. Mediocre college students perhaps don't network and perhaps spend the entirety of college smoking weed in their dorms.

Ambitious, go-getter types do. And college networking does not consist of going to happy hour (even networking in the job market does not consist of going to happy hour lmao).

The recruiters come to schools like Princeton. The students don't need to "network" at some joint event with kids from other schools in Boston.

Maybe if you go to BU or Northeastern these types of events are especially helpful for ambitious students who otherwise might not have the same opportunities. Not really relevant to OP's kids who'd have opportunities at each of Columbia, Cornell, or Princeton.

[Anonymous]

PP you realize that speaking with job recruiters is a very small, and rather irrelevant, part of networking in college right? Job recruiters come to Northeastern and Boston University too, lmao.

College students network with other college students for club organizations, research projects, internship opportunities, startups, and literally just to get to know more people while in college i.e. relationships and friendships. It's about widening your sphere and getting more contacts throughout college, not trying to get a job from a recruiter. It's about getting to know more and other college students, not job recruiters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.

The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.

Let's help you out again; per the OP "Did not apply to Harvard, Yale, Brown or Dartmouth. Waitlisted at UPenn."

Let's help you out again: The argument is regarding isolated suburban colleges and non-isolated urban colleges. Do I need to connect the dots for you or are you a big enough girl to get it now?

Such a shame you can't articulate your argument either clearly or consistently. You aren't helping yourself, much less the OP.

My position has been rather clear and consistent, however at some point the conversation needs to be at a high-school level, not a kindergarten one as you might prefer.

Do you enjoy being a kid?

Who do you think has better "networking" or whatever it is you're imagining, urban Northeastern or St. John's or Fordham, versus rural Dartmouth and Williams and suburban Princeton and Duke?

Shrugs.

DP. I don't think you understand college. College kids don't "network." Like, did you imagine them metroing over to the nearest investment bank, knocking on the door, and joining up for happy hour? lol

Erm, college kids do network. That's partially the purpose of business fraternities, engineering fraternities, regular fraternities and other social and academic organizations.

And in environments where there are multiple colleges nearby, similar college organizations from various schools will set up events together (beyond parties).

PP I don't think you realize the ambitiousness of college students these days. Mediocre college students perhaps don't network and perhaps spend the entirety of college smoking weed in their dorms.

Ambitious, go-getter types do. And college networking does not consist of going to happy hour (even networking in the job market does not consist of going to happy hour lmao).

I had no clue how to network in college. I was hardworking and pretty smart but not ivy level. Did go to ivy for grad school but didn’t pick up any networking skills there either. I think it is very hard for kids who don’t come from wealthy connected families.

[Anonymous]

I’m personally more familiar with Columbia and Cornell but have heard that Princeton is probably the most elitist of all the ivys. Although I think Princeton is trying to change that image by trying to recruit more diverse and low income kids.

[Anonymous]

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Erm, college kids do network. That's partially the purpose of business fraternities, engineering fraternities, regular fraternities and other social and academic organizations.

And in environments where there are multiple colleges nearby, similar college organizations from various schools will set up events together (beyond parties).

PP I don't think you realize the ambitiousness of college students these days. Mediocre college students perhaps don't network and perhaps spend the entirety of college smoking weed in their dorms.

Ambitious, go-getter types do. And college networking does not consist of going to happy hour (even networking in the job market does not consist of going to happy hour lmao).

I had no clue how to network in college. I was hardworking and pretty smart but not ivy level. Did go to ivy for grad school but didn’t pick up any networking skills there either. I think it is very hard for kids who don’t come from wealthy connected families.

You're correct, students who come from a poor, working-class or middle-class background and go to one of the elite private colleges do feel out of place and have a harder time networking (and anything social) in college. Thats the benefit of colleges in urban environments, the working-class student is not entirely stuck within the culture of their college, they can go out and take advantage of opportunities in the city and get to know students from other colleges in proximity to network.

Meanwhile a working-class student at an isolated rural/suburban elite private will feel isolated. Sure, there might be others similar to them, but its a limited number of people compared to at elite privates in urban metros who can take advantage of city and students at the other colleges in the city.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Erm, college kids do network. That's partially the purpose of business fraternities, engineering fraternities, regular fraternities and other social and academic organizations.

And in environments where there are multiple colleges nearby, similar college organizations from various schools will set up events together (beyond parties).

PP I don't think you realize the ambitiousness of college students these days. Mediocre college students perhaps don't network and perhaps spend the entirety of college smoking weed in their dorms.

Ambitious, go-getter types do. And college networking does not consist of going to happy hour (even networking in the job market does not consist of going to happy hour lmao).

I had no clue how to network in college. I was hardworking and pretty smart but not ivy level. Did go to ivy for grad school but didn’t pick up any networking skills there either. I think it is very hard for kids who don’t come from wealthy connected families.

You're correct, students who come from a poor, working-class or middle-class background and go to one of the elite private colleges do feel out of place and have a harder time networking (and anything social) in college. Thats the benefit of colleges in urban environments, the working-class student is not entirely stuck within the culture of their college, they can go out and take advantage of opportunities in the city and get to know students from other colleges in proximity to network.

Meanwhile a working-class student at an isolated rural/suburban elite private will feel isolated. Sure, there might be others similar to them, but its a limited number of people compared to at elite privates in urban metros who can take advantage of city and students at the other colleges in the city.

My family was middle-class and I had no problem thriving at Princeton. Never once did I think my opportunities were circumscribed because I wasn't attending school in Boston, NY or DC. There's a lot more to schools like HYP than getting into Porcellian, Skull and Bones or Ivy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, I'm suggesting that students that may get into both Princeton and Harvard may, despite Princeton having a better undergraduate education, choose Harvard in part due to having proximity to MIT and the wider Boston area.

The idea of location preference is not a crazy one.

Let's help you out again; per the OP "Did not apply to Harvard, Yale, Brown or Dartmouth. Waitlisted at UPenn."

Let's help you out again: The argument is regarding isolated suburban colleges and non-isolated urban colleges. Do I need to connect the dots for you or are you a big enough girl to get it now?

Such a shame you can't articulate your argument either clearly or consistently. You aren't helping yourself, much less the OP.

My position has been rather clear and consistent, however at some point the conversation needs to be at a high-school level, not a kindergarten one as you might prefer.

Do you enjoy being a kid?

Who do you think has better "networking" or whatever it is you're imagining, urban Northeastern or St. John's or Fordham, versus rural Dartmouth and Williams and suburban Princeton and Duke?

Shrugs.

DP. I don't think you understand college. College kids don't "network." Like, did you imagine them metroing over to the nearest investment bank, knocking on the door, and joining up for happy hour? lol

Erm, college kids do network. That's partially the purpose of business fraternities, engineering fraternities, regular fraternities and other social and academic organizations.

And in environments where there are multiple colleges nearby, similar college organizations from various schools will set up events together (beyond parties).

PP I don't think you realize the ambitiousness of college students these days. Mediocre college students perhaps don't network and perhaps spend the entirety of college smoking weed in their dorms.

Ambitious, go-getter types do. And college networking does not consist of going to happy hour (even networking in the job market does not consist of going to happy hour lmao).

Let me rephrase my criticism of the PP. I should have stated, college students don't engage in the type of networking that gets them jobs. The reason I know this is that I am a college professor.