Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

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Anonymous wrote:Quiet down, OP. We're not supposed to acknowledge the fact that black artists and their entire industry debases women and promotes a subculture of lowbrow (lowlife, really) behavior. We're supposed to pretend it's cool that they can showcase their "culture."

As an anti-poverty advocate, I think it's a big part of the problem.

I think it's a shame Beyoncé and Jay haven't used their tremendous platform to effect social change. Think about the impact they could have if they did a PR campaign aimed at teaching black tweens and teens that it's cool to NOT have babies until you're 30 and have seen the world/lived your life/had an adventure and settled down...like they did. Better yet: tell everyone to at a minimum graduate from high school.


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Sigh...everyone liking this post and this poster are so ignorant. If you actually knew anything about black artist or culture you would know there are tons of black artist who promote what you find acceptable, ie Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, Black Thought, Killer Mike, Common, Lupe Fiasco, Logic (and these are just rap artists bc I’m going to go out on a limb and say you hate rap music and think it’s all the same).

How do you know they haven’t effected social change? Bc they aren’t in front of a microphone yelling it so you can judge? They both put their money toward resources and ppl who can help make changes.

Google the following...
Jay-z and Kaleif Browder
Jay-z and Trayvon Martin
Beyoncé and Freddy Gray
Beyoncé donates to Chime for Change (which is a health education program for women)
Beyoncé has Formation Scholar Awards (gives scholarships to HBCU for arts, music and black studies)

Now please tell everyone how you have helped change the world other than shopping at Whole Foods and driving a hybrid.


Black woman here, why are you taking this to the next level? I have loved B since the original Destinys Child but let’s be real, we aren’t going to pretend like her music is the same are we? I appreciate her giving back to our community. She should. After all, we have supported her and Jay, her momma with her attempt at a fashion house and even Solange. But this is about the music. And well. The new music sucks. You can try to mask it under black empowerment and a woman scorned over a cheating husband but it still sucks.


Why are you sitting here hating on another black woman? Bc she has success? Bc she is giving back to the black community? Beyoncé is her own style and I won’t condemn her on her choice of music bc it’s her choice. No one forced you to support Beyoncé’s music, fashion, her mother, Solange or Jay-z so no that doesn’t mean she should give back, but it’s awesome that she chooses too. The music sucks to you and that’s fine. You aren’t her fan base. She isn’t making music for you to listen to as you’ve aged out.

And I didn’t try to mask her music under black empowerment. What I did was reply to an ignorant poster who ignorantly claimed, “black artists and their entire industry debases women and promotes a subculture of lowbrow (lowlife, really) behavior.”



Lol, Beyoncé herself has aged out. Also, you sound ignorant. “Sitting here hating on another black woman”
Is that what this is? Because I am intelligent enough to make statements that I deem to be true regardless of race, sex, class or anything else. Beyoncé and her husband make millions off of us so yes, they should give back to the community not only from a monetary standpoint but by sending a positive message through their music. When you know better, you do better. They obviously know better.


You think you are intelligent but sadly that is not how you come across. Statements that you “deem to be true” doesn’t make you intelligent. It makes you ignorant since you are only looking from your viewpoint without any actual logic or understanding. Again, no one is forcing you to support Beyoncé and Jay-z. You don’t have to spend your money on them. You choose to and just like you choose to spend your money on what you want, so can they. So no, they aren’t required to give back to the community. Just like you aren’t required too. It’s great that they choose to give back bc it’s more than what most ppl do.

Lastly, Beyoncé doesn’t owe you or anyone music with what you deem as a positive message. You can say she has aged out to make yourself feel better but you are in serious denial. Beyoncé can still sing, dance and perform better than most artist younger than her. There is a reason ppl are still paying money to see her.
Yep, and paying GOOD money. Her shows are not cheap.
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Anonymous wrote:Quiet down, OP. We're not supposed to acknowledge the fact that black artists and their entire industry debases women and promotes a subculture of lowbrow (lowlife, really) behavior. We're supposed to pretend it's cool that they can showcase their "culture."

As an anti-poverty advocate, I think it's a big part of the problem.

I think it's a shame Beyoncé and Jay haven't used their tremendous platform to effect social change. Think about the impact they could have if they did a PR campaign aimed at teaching black tweens and teens that it's cool to NOT have babies until you're 30 and have seen the world/lived your life/had an adventure and settled down...like they did. Better yet: tell everyone to at a minimum graduate from high school.


+100


Sigh...everyone liking this post and this poster are so ignorant. If you actually knew anything about black artist or culture you would know there are tons of black artist who promote what you find acceptable, ie Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, Black Thought, Killer Mike, Common, Lupe Fiasco, Logic (and these are just rap artists bc I’m going to go out on a limb and say you hate rap music and think it’s all the same).

How do you know they haven’t effected social change? Bc they aren’t in front of a microphone yelling it so you can judge? They both put their money toward resources and ppl who can help make changes.

Google the following...
Jay-z and Kaleif Browder
Jay-z and Trayvon Martin
Beyoncé and Freddy Gray
Beyoncé donates to Chime for Change (which is a health education program for women)
Beyoncé has Formation Scholar Awards (gives scholarships to HBCU for arts, music and black studies)

Now please tell everyone how you have helped change the world other than shopping at Whole Foods and driving a hybrid.


Black woman here, why are you taking this to the next level? I have loved B since the original Destinys Child but let’s be real, we aren’t going to pretend like her music is the same are we? I appreciate her giving back to our community. She should. After all, we have supported her and Jay, her momma with her attempt at a fashion house and even Solange. But this is about the music. And well. The new music sucks. You can try to mask it under black empowerment and a woman scorned over a cheating husband but it still sucks.


Great points.
Sure, but why would anyone expect her music to be the same? She was 16 when the first Destiny's Child album came out. She's 37 now.


I think that Beyonce is making a mistake in not growing up with her female fan base. But every star has to cling to their youth and sing to a youthful audience. It's like they don't see that grown women are beautiful, too, and can be sexy as hell, too, in their own right. But no way does she want herself identified with being middle age.

It's a shame because there is a ton of material out there - girls' nights out, married but being attracted to a boss/coworker/dad friend, dating after divorce, alone time with your husband after the kids are in bed, queen bee mom....

Too bad. Maybe Taylor Swift will run with it.




So you think Beyoncé should make music geared toward ppl who wouldn’t actually spend the money on it? Music that wouldn’t actually be played on the radio and music that wouldn’t keep her relevant enough to sell out concerts. Beyoncé is smart bc she realized if she wanted to stay relevant she needed to embrace the younger generation and make music for them. I don’t see it as clinging to youth, it’s business. She doesn’t lie about her age, she still looks great. Clinging to youth are Mariah Carey and Madonna.
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Anonymous wrote:Quiet down, OP. We're not supposed to acknowledge the fact that black artists and their entire industry debases women and promotes a subculture of lowbrow (lowlife, really) behavior. We're supposed to pretend it's cool that they can showcase their "culture."

As an anti-poverty advocate, I think it's a big part of the problem.

I think it's a shame Beyoncé and Jay haven't used their tremendous platform to effect social change. Think about the impact they could have if they did a PR campaign aimed at teaching black tweens and teens that it's cool to NOT have babies until you're 30 and have seen the world/lived your life/had an adventure and settled down...like they did. Better yet: tell everyone to at a minimum graduate from high school.


+100


Sigh...everyone liking this post and this poster are so ignorant. If you actually knew anything about black artist or culture you would know there are tons of black artist who promote what you find acceptable, ie Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, Black Thought, Killer Mike, Common, Lupe Fiasco, Logic (and these are just rap artists bc I’m going to go out on a limb and say you hate rap music and think it’s all the same).

How do you know they haven’t effected social change? Bc they aren’t in front of a microphone yelling it so you can judge? They both put their money toward resources and ppl who can help make changes.

Google the following...
Jay-z and Kaleif Browder
Jay-z and Trayvon Martin
Beyoncé and Freddy Gray
Beyoncé donates to Chime for Change (which is a health education program for women)
Beyoncé has Formation Scholar Awards (gives scholarships to HBCU for arts, music and black studies)

Now please tell everyone how you have helped change the world other than shopping at Whole Foods and driving a hybrid.


Black woman here, why are you taking this to the next level? I have loved B since the original Destinys Child but let’s be real, we aren’t going to pretend like her music is the same are we? I appreciate her giving back to our community. She should. After all, we have supported her and Jay, her momma with her attempt at a fashion house and even Solange. But this is about the music. And well. The new music sucks. You can try to mask it under black empowerment and a woman scorned over a cheating husband but it still sucks.


Great points.
Sure, but why would anyone expect her music to be the same? She was 16 when the first Destiny's Child album came out. She's 37 now.


I think that Beyonce is making a mistake in not growing up with her female fan base. But every star has to cling to their youth and sing to a youthful audience. It's like they don't see that grown women are beautiful, too, and can be sexy as hell, too, in their own right. But no way does she want herself identified with being middle age.

It's a shame because there is a ton of material out there - girls' nights out, married but being attracted to a boss/coworker/dad friend, dating after divorce, alone time with your husband after the kids are in bed, queen bee mom....

Too bad. Maybe Taylor Swift will run with it.




So you think Beyoncé should make music geared toward ppl who wouldn’t actually spend the money on it? Music that wouldn’t actually be played on the radio and music that wouldn’t keep her relevant enough to sell out concerts. Beyoncé is smart bc she realized if she wanted to stay relevant she needed to embrace the younger generation and make music for them. I don’t see it as clinging to youth, it’s business. She doesn’t lie about her age, she still looks great. Clinging to youth are Mariah Carey and Madonna.
I agree. She is wildly successful and incredibly popular. How exactly is she making a mistake? If you don't like it fine, everything is not for everyone but there is obviously a demand for the music she makes.
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Anonymous wrote:That song “Squeezebox” is a cringey embarrassment. I like a lot of Beyoncé, am looking forward to Homecoming, but I don’t view her as a role model for my daughter. I see PPs point about her sexually explicit lyrics being not a great symbol of black academic excellence and culture in light of the HBCU theme, but I also see PPs point about her success and luminosity being one (of many) part of black artistic and cultural importance and success. Sadly, her husband is fugly, but they seem to have a great and collaborative career rapport. I hate Taylor Swift, fwiw.

And no, “Satisfaction” isn’t saying “pregnant” after “make some girl”! The lyric is about being on the make ie looking for action.


I agree. I've had a love-hate attitude towards Beyonce since the beginning of her career. I don't view Beyonce as a role model for my 9 year old daughter. I am her role model. Plus, she thinks Beyonce is for parents. I do appreciate Beyonce's work ethic and lyrics aside, her love letter to the HBCU culture. Our HBCUs are struggling and I hope Homecoming will help bring awareness and bring people back to HBCUs.
Anonymous
Hi I'm the OP. My point is that she has AMAZING songs on Lemonade, 4, and self-titled but she chose her nastiest/raunchiest tunes and that me feel soooo uncomfortable allowing my family to watch. SMH at you who can't understand my original issue ...you have reading comprehension issues lol.
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Anonymous wrote:Hi I'm the OP. My point is that she has AMAZING songs on Lemonade, 4, and self-titled but she chose her nastiest/raunchiest tunes and that me feel soooo uncomfortable allowing my family to watch. SMH at you who can't understand my original issue ...you have reading comprehension issues lol.
In the future I suggest checking the ratings to make sure you are comfortable with what your family is watching. Homecoming is rated TV-MA, which means for mature audiences.
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Anonymous wrote:Hi I'm the OP. My point is that she has AMAZING songs on Lemonade, 4, and self-titled but she chose her nastiest/raunchiest tunes and that me feel soooo uncomfortable allowing my family to watch. SMH at you who can't understand my original issue ...you have reading comprehension issues lol.
In the future I suggest checking the ratings to make sure you are comfortable with what your family is watching. Homecoming is rated TV-MA, which means for mature audiences.

+1. Also Common Sense Media reviewed it and says it is for ages 15+ but interestingly doesn't call out any extremely crude language or references. Either your kids were too young or you are just uncomfortable with the sexual situations she's singing about..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I tend to agree with you, OP. I'm sick of these women who sing raunchy, tasteless lyrics, dress and behave like trashy streetwalkers but then want to be perceived as elegant, graceful and respectable when it suits them. I'm looking at you Beyonce, Ariana and Nikki.

Maybe they want to be respected for their considerable talent that has made them millions? Hmm?

And as for elegant and graceful.. did you not learn anything from Pretty Woman??
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Anonymous wrote:Hi I'm the OP. My point is that she has AMAZING songs on Lemonade, 4, and self-titled but she chose her nastiest/raunchiest tunes and that me feel soooo uncomfortable allowing my family to watch. SMH at you who can't understand my original issue ...you have reading comprehension issues lol.


I agree with this. I attempted to watch her Homecoming special on Netflix. I'm certainly no Tipper Gore and dont mind a few curse words here but damn...it was over the top. I'm AA and I also didnt like her using the N word. I'm 48 and I enjoy the old Beyonce (up until Single Ladies). This Beyonce....I'll pass. Was really disappointed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Quiet down, OP. We're not supposed to acknowledge the fact that black artists and their entire industry debases women and promotes a subculture of lowbrow (lowlife, really) behavior. We're supposed to pretend it's cool that they can showcase their "culture."

As an anti-poverty advocate, I think it's a big part of the problem.

I think it's a shame Beyoncé and Jay haven't used their tremendous platform to effect social change. Think about the impact they could have if they did a PR campaign aimed at teaching black tweens and teens that it's cool to NOT have babies until you're 30 and have seen the world/lived your life/had an adventure and settled down...like they did. Better yet: tell everyone to at a minimum graduate from high school.

Cue the a***hat who claims all black artist are alike, who doesn’t know the difference between Kodak Black and Gregory Porter, who claims that an industry predominantly run by and PURCHASED by white folks is really the work of the Black Illuminati, who thinks that black teen girls are just too hot in the pants, that all black people live together, are all poor, think alike and need white folks to save us.
You need Jesus, a job, and a new brain.
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Anonymous wrote:Quiet down, OP. We're not supposed to acknowledge the fact that black artists and their entire industry debases women and promotes a subculture of lowbrow (lowlife, really) behavior. We're supposed to pretend it's cool that they can showcase their "culture."

As an anti-poverty advocate, I think it's a big part of the problem.

I think it's a shame Beyoncé and Jay haven't used their tremendous platform to effect social change. Think about the impact they could have if they did a PR campaign aimed at teaching black tweens and teens that it's cool to NOT have babies until you're 30 and have seen the world/lived your life/had an adventure and settled down...like they did. Better yet: tell everyone to at a minimum graduate from high school.


+100


Sigh...everyone liking this post and this poster are so ignorant. If you actually knew anything about black artist or culture you would know there are tons of black artist who promote what you find acceptable, ie Kendrick Lamar, J Cole, Black Thought, Killer Mike, Common, Lupe Fiasco, Logic (and these are just rap artists bc I’m going to go out on a limb and say you hate rap music and think it’s all the same).

How do you know they haven’t effected social change? Bc they aren’t in front of a microphone yelling it so you can judge? They both put their money toward resources and ppl who can help make changes.

Google the following...
Jay-z and Kaleif Browder
Jay-z and Trayvon Martin
Beyoncé and Freddy Gray
Beyoncé donates to Chime for Change (which is a health education program for women)
Beyoncé has Formation Scholar Awards (gives scholarships to HBCU for arts, music and black studies)

Now please tell everyone how you have helped change the world other than shopping at Whole Foods and driving a hybrid.


Black woman here, why are you taking this to the next level? I have loved B since the original Destinys Child but let’s be real, we aren’t going to pretend like her music is the same are we? I appreciate her giving back to our community. She should. After all, we have supported her and Jay, her momma with her attempt at a fashion house and even Solange. But this is about the music. And well. The new music sucks. You can try to mask it under black empowerment and a woman scorned over a cheating husband but it still sucks.


Great points.
Sure, but why would anyone expect her music to be the same? She was 16 when the first Destiny's Child album came out. She's 37 now.




Right! I expect maturity. Not the other way around. Vocally she has matured but most of her music isn’t timeless. It will not stand the test of time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Quiet down, OP. We're not supposed to acknowledge the fact that black artists and their entire industry debases women and promotes a subculture of lowbrow (lowlife, really) behavior. We're supposed to pretend it's cool that they can showcase their "culture."

As an anti-poverty advocate, I think it's a big part of the problem.

I think it's a shame Beyoncé and Jay haven't used their tremendous platform to effect social change. Think about the impact they could have if they did a PR campaign aimed at teaching black tweens and teens that it's cool to NOT have babies until you're 30 and have seen the world/lived your life/had an adventure and settled down...like they did. Better yet: tell everyone to at a minimum graduate from high school.

Cue the a***hat who claims all black artist are alike, who doesn’t know the difference between Kodak Black and Gregory Porter, who claims that an industry predominantly run by and PURCHASED by white folks is really the work of the Black Illuminati, who thinks that black teen girls are just too hot in the pants, that all black people live together, are all poor, think alike and need white folks to save us.
You need Jesus, a job, and a new brain.



Oh my gosh! Are we reading the same thing here? #clueless
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Anonymous wrote:Meh, her lyrics aren’t anymore disturbing than Rhianna or Nicki Minaj so why are we focusing on her? She’s an entertainer and looking for her audience just like Madonna did.


They all suck.


+1.

I'm not sure why people are getting all testy. This is one person's view (OP) and it is shared by many people. I'm not sure where I come down on it. But, this is America. I don't have to not listen or be a certain demographic to have an opinion on her music. And those of you getting all salty could stand to take it down a notch, explain your position like grown-ups, instead of just whining and throwing insults.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hi I'm the OP. My point is that she has AMAZING songs on Lemonade, 4, and self-titled but she chose her nastiest/raunchiest tunes and that me feel soooo uncomfortable allowing my family to watch. SMH at you who can't understand my original issue ...you have reading comprehension issues lol.


Or perhaps you should have made this point in the OP. Write clearly and people will understand you the first time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Quiet down, OP. We're not supposed to acknowledge the fact that black artists and their entire industry debases women and promotes a subculture of lowbrow (lowlife, really) behavior. We're supposed to pretend it's cool that they can showcase their "culture."

As an anti-poverty advocate, I think it's a big part of the problem.

I think it's a shame Beyoncé and Jay haven't used their tremendous platform to effect social change. Think about the impact they could have if they did a PR campaign aimed at teaching black tweens and teens that it's cool to NOT have babies until you're 30 and have seen the world/lived your life/had an adventure and settled down...like they did. Better yet: tell everyone to at a minimum graduate from high school.

Cue the a***hat who claims all black artist are alike, who doesn’t know the difference between Kodak Black and Gregory Porter, who claims that an industry predominantly run by and PURCHASED by white folks is really the work of the Black Illuminati, who thinks that black teen girls are just too hot in the pants, that all black people live together, are all poor, think alike and need white folks to save us.
You need Jesus, a job, and a new brain.

Amen.
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