How do you justify buying from a breeder instead of rescuing a mutt?

[Anonymous]

People go to breeders because rescue people are crazy. If you have kids or work or don't have a fenced yard, then you aren't good enough for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we please stop the silliness? No one goes through this process:

1. I want a dog.
2. I refuse to support rescues because they're bad people and do things wrong.
3. So I'll go to a breeder and get the exact dog that I want.

This is the real process:

1. I want a dog.
2. I want a certain kind of dog.
3. So I'll go to a breeder and get the exact dog that I want.

Own up to what you're doing and thinking, people. Quit the bs.

What's the BS? My family wants and/or needs certain things in a dog, including behavioral traits. Some families need dogs that are hypoallergenic or don't shed. I also want a dog that I know is clear of certain medical issues, and that requires results of genetic tests. I also want a dog that I know has a healthy and happy background and is not coming to us with major issues. I want a dog somewhere between 8wks and 2yrs old. Point me to the rescue organization that can do that, and I won't go to a breeder.

Otherwise you are still working on the presumption that any dog will work for any family and that is simply not true.

Maybe in your case. I still think you suck, obviously, but at least you're being honest. You're not on here arguing that you went to a breeder because you refuse to support unethical rescue organizations -- the most disingenuous argument I've ever heard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does it count as a breeder if a family has two dogs that they breed?
They have a mommy and daddy dog that have a few litters over the years? They sell the puppies, but mommy and daddy are their family dogs?
Is that still evil?

YES. That is still just as evil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People go to breeders because rescue people are crazy. If you have kids or work or don't have a fenced yard, then you aren't good enough for them.

We have kids. We don't have a fenced in yard. We've always had rescues. No problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People go to breeders because rescue people are crazy. If you have kids or work or don't have a fenced yard, then you aren't good enough for them.

This is so not true and I said earlier on this thread that it bothers me when people use this as an excuse rather than owning the fact they went with a breeder. I guarantee you could walk into any area shelter with any of those situations and be approved for a dog. Certain rescues have strict vetting yes, but not all - and county shelters are very, very forgiving if you want a dog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we please stop the silliness? No one goes through this process:

1. I want a dog.
2. I refuse to support rescues because they're bad people and do things wrong.
3. So I'll go to a breeder and get the exact dog that I want.

This is the real process:

1. I want a dog.
2. I want a certain kind of dog.
3. So I'll go to a breeder and get the exact dog that I want.

Own up to what you're doing and thinking, people. Quit the bs.

You forgot one.

1) I want a dog
2) I do not want a pitbull of any kind
3) I won't get one from a rescue because I do not trust them not to lie about the breeding of the dog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People go to breeders because rescue people are crazy. If you have kids or work or don't have a fenced yard, then you aren't good enough for them.

This is so not true and I said earlier on this thread that it bothers me when people use this as an excuse rather than owning the fact they went with a breeder. I guarantee you could walk into any area shelter with any of those situations and be approved for a dog. Certain rescues have strict vetting yes, but not all - and county shelters are very, very forgiving if you want a dog.

+1. Somehow this thread has evolved into a "breeder versus rescue" discussion. It's not either or. Go to a shelter, for pete's sake. Do something good with your life. Isn't a fancy house and a fancy car enough? Must you have a fancy dog too???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
What's the BS? My family wants and/or needs certain things in a dog, including behavioral traits. Some families need dogs that are hypoallergenic or don't shed. I also want a dog that I know is clear of certain medical issues, and that requires results of genetic tests. I also want a dog that I know has a healthy and happy background and is not coming to us with major issues. I want a dog somewhere between 8wks and 2yrs old. Point me to the rescue organization that can do that, and I won't go to a breeder.

Otherwise you are still working on the presumption that any dog will work for any family and that is simply not true.

Maybe in your case. I still think you suck, obviously, but at least you're being honest. You're not on here arguing that you went to a breeder because you refuse to support unethical rescue organizations -- the most disingenuous argument I've ever heard.

PP here. What sucks? If I'm going to take responsibility for another living creature for 12-15yrs it makes sense that I'd be conscientious in deciding what animal to bring into my home. If I know what works for our family, and it isn't available at a shelter, why does it suck to get that pet elsewhere, in your opinion. Do I just say "sorry, kids. no pet for you because all breeders are evil yet what we want and need cannot be acquired via rescue."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People go to breeders because rescue people are crazy. If you have kids or work or don't have a fenced yard, then you aren't good enough for them.

True.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we please stop the silliness? No one goes through this process:

1. I want a dog.
2. I refuse to support rescues because they're bad people and do things wrong.
3. So I'll go to a breeder and get the exact dog that I want.

This is the real process:

1. I want a dog.
2. I want a certain kind of dog.
3. So I'll go to a breeder and get the exact dog that I want.

Own up to what you're doing and thinking, people. Quit the bs.

You forgot one.

1) I want a dog
2) I do not want a pitbull of any kind
3) I won't get one from a rescue because I do not trust them not to lie about the breeding of the dog.

We have the most lovable pit mix that's ever graced the earth, but let's not go there. What I don't buy is that you're going to a breeder because you don't want a pit. There are plenty of rescue dogs available who are very, very clearly not a spec of pit. You're going to a breeder because you have a certain breed in mind, no doubt. Be honest with yourself and us. This is an anonymous board, after all -- your secret is safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we please stop the silliness? No one goes through this process:

1. I want a dog.
2. I refuse to support rescues because they're bad people and do things wrong.
3. So I'll go to a breeder and get the exact dog that I want.

This is the real process:

1. I want a dog.
2. I want a certain kind of dog.
3. So I'll go to a breeder and get the exact dog that I want.

Own up to what you're doing and thinking, people. Quit the bs.

You forgot one.

1) I want a dog
2) I do not want a pitbull of any kind
3) I won't get one from a rescue because I do not trust them not to lie about the breeding of the dog.

Is there something wrong with not wanting a pitbull?

And I know people will say "rescues have more than just pitbulls" but I've actually volunteered in a rescue and while there are other breeds occasionally, they are either not available for adoption or they are claimed the second they become available. You'd have to camp there to get your claim on a non-pitbull.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We should also stop having children of our own as long as there are kids who need adoption!

That makes no sense. Literally.

+1

Oh but it does make sense under the bizarre logic of the OP. OP tells us that anyone who chooses a specific dog from a breeder rather than one of the many unwanted ones in a shelter is responsible for their euthanasia, and is selfish for wanting a particular dog rather than rescuing. By that logic, other people have had children that they can't or won't raise. Those children are in foster care, orphanages, and other temporary care environments. It's selfish to be picky about the type of child you want (ie. a bio child), when there are already all these other perfectly good children out there in the world in need of homes.

This is exactly the argument that OP and whatever other strident idiots are making, that if a child never finds a permanent home then any family who gave birth to their own child rather than adopting is responsible for the plight of the one without a family. Just like any family that chooses a specific dog from a breeder is responsible for the death of a dog in a shelter.

It's incredibly extreme in terms of defining our responsibilities with regard to others, and it puts all of us at the mercy of the worst decision-makers among us. I hate the idea that dogs are euthanized, but I don't think it's my job to support puppy mills every time a rescue swoops in and gets all the dogs.

This truly takes the prize for the most disingenuous argument on this thread.

DP. But it's true. It is so weird that OP seems to think rescue dogs aren't bred but magici snap into existence while breeder dogs are bred. Face it, OP puts her feelings over dog welfare. If she didn't she wouldn't support puppy mills and auctions. Because that is exactly where a lot of "rescues" and auctions.get their dogs (except for the pits).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
What's the BS? My family wants and/or needs certain things in a dog, including behavioral traits. Some families need dogs that are hypoallergenic or don't shed. I also want a dog that I know is clear of certain medical issues, and that requires results of genetic tests. I also want a dog that I know has a healthy and happy background and is not coming to us with major issues. I want a dog somewhere between 8wks and 2yrs old. Point me to the rescue organization that can do that, and I won't go to a breeder.

Otherwise you are still working on the presumption that any dog will work for any family and that is simply not true.

Maybe in your case. I still think you suck, obviously, but at least you're being honest. You're not on here arguing that you went to a breeder because you refuse to support unethical rescue organizations -- the most disingenuous argument I've ever heard.

PP here. What sucks? If I'm going to take responsibility for another living creature for 12-15yrs it makes sense that I'd be conscientious in deciding what animal to bring into my home. If I know what works for our family, and it isn't available at a shelter, why does it suck to get that pet elsewhere, in your opinion. Do I just say "sorry, kids. no pet for you because all breeders are evil yet what we want and need cannot be acquired via rescue."

Actually, yes. It would be a good life lesson for your kids. Sometimes you sacrifice for the greater good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We should also stop having children of our own as long as there are kids who need adoption!

That makes no sense. Literally.

+1

Oh but it does make sense under the bizarre logic of the OP. OP tells us that anyone who chooses a specific dog from a breeder rather than one of the many unwanted ones in a shelter is responsible for their euthanasia, and is selfish for wanting a particular dog rather than rescuing. By that logic, other people have had children that they can't or won't raise. Those children are in foster care, orphanages, and other temporary care environments. It's selfish to be picky about the type of child you want (ie. a bio child), when there are already all these other perfectly good children out there in the world in need of homes.

This is exactly the argument that OP and whatever other strident idiots are making, that if a child never finds a permanent home then any family who gave birth to their own child rather than adopting is responsible for the plight of the one without a family. Just like any family that chooses a specific dog from a breeder is responsible for the death of a dog in a shelter.

It's incredibly extreme in terms of defining our responsibilities with regard to others, and it puts all of us at the mercy of the worst decision-makers among us. I hate the idea that dogs are euthanized, but I don't think it's my job to support puppy mills every time a rescue swoops in and gets all the dogs.

This truly takes the prize for the most disingenuous argument on this thread.

DP. But it's true. It is so weird that OP seems to think rescue dogs aren't bred but magici snap into existence while breeder dogs are bred. Face it, OP puts her feelings over dog welfare. If she didn't she wouldn't support puppy mills and auctions. Because that is exactly where a lot of "rescues" and auctions.get their dogs (except for the pits).

Go to a shelter then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People go to breeders because rescue people are crazy. If you have kids or work or don't have a fenced yard, then you aren't good enough for them.

True.

Case in point: OP