Why are AR15s legal?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would an AR 15 not be legal? Because they scare liberals? That doesn’t seem like a very good reason to make something illegal. Whether it be guns, free speech, or anything else for that matter.

There's nothing that specifically says it should be. The 2nd Amendment doesn't specify what kind of arms one can keep and bear.

Well if you're a conservative who abhors the idea of a "living constitution" then "arms" mean arms as of 1789 - so muskets and the like.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would an AR 15 not be legal? Because they scare liberals? That doesn’t seem like a very good reason to make something illegal. Whether it be guns, free speech, or anything else for that matter.

There's nothing that specifically says it should be. The 2nd Amendment doesn't specify what kind of arms one can keep and bear.

To believe in banning the AR15 is to believe that if farmers had shown up at Lexington and Concord with AR15s, they would have been turned away because their guns would have repelled the British too effectively.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would an AR 15 not be legal? Because they scare liberals? That doesn’t seem like a very good reason to make something illegal. Whether it be guns, free speech, or anything else for that matter.

There's nothing that specifically says it should be. The 2nd Amendment doesn't specify what kind of arms one can keep and bear.

Well if you're a conservative who abhors the idea of a "living constitution" then "arms" mean arms as of 1789 - so muskets and the like.

And "speech" means paper and shouting.

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Can anyone tell me what it is that makes AR15's so dangerous? What specific feature(s) does it have that sets it apart from other rifles?

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone tell me what it is that makes AR15's so dangerous? What specific feature(s) does it have that sets it apart from other rifles?

Their massive .223 inch bore size, for one.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the most popular rifle in America and has been for years. It’s incredibly modular and customizable, has low recoil, handles lots of calibers (for hunting, home defense, competition shooting), is much easier to use than something like a shotgun (so good for disabled persons, such as a veteran I know who uses one to protect his home). But you’ve decided that they’re evil, or “machine guns,” or only used by “sucky hunters,” and have no legitimate purpose. So I’m not going to say anything else, because you have your opinion about them. So do the millions of normal Americans who own them.

Ps: they’re not going anywhere, so focus on something else.

Hey what school are you going to shoot up?

A mentally ill person kills a bunch of students and your response is take away guns? Try again. You won’t be restricting my rights because of some wacko. Not today. Not ever.

^^^would refuse to give up his gun even if it meant saving the life of a child.

I'd refuse to give up my ability to protect my kids because someone had a theory that making me and my family defenseless would stop crazies from killing people.

Delusional.

Average citizens wielding guns has never protected or stopped anything in America. You may have your handful of anecdotes or the random YouTube video of something like a shopkeeper shooting wildly while some thugs run away but in aggregate it is all for nothing. America actually has *more* violent crime per capita than modern industrialized nations that have gun control.

The report that the CDC did under Obama disagrees, and cites several violent crime studies which indicated that defensive use is much more common than criminal use of firearms

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone tell me what it is that makes AR15's so dangerous? What specific feature(s) does it have that sets it apart from other rifles?

Their massive .223 inch bore size, for one.

Good one

It isn't any more dangerous than any other semi-auto rifle. It's just a popular rifle and it usually looks "tactical," so it gets a lot of attention from people who know nothing about guns.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone tell me what it is that makes AR15's so dangerous? What specific feature(s) does it have that sets it apart from other rifles?

Their massive .223 inch bore size, for one.

Good one

It isn't any more dangerous than any other semi-auto rifle. It's just a popular rifle and it usually looks "tactical," so it gets a lot of attention from people who know nothing about guns.

So why do all the hunters say it's the best tool for the job (which is killing)?

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone tell me what it is that makes AR15's so dangerous? What specific feature(s) does it have that sets it apart from other rifles?

Their massive .223 inch bore size, for one.

Good one

It isn't any more dangerous than any other semi-auto rifle. It's just a popular rifle and it usually looks "tactical," so it gets a lot of attention from people who know nothing about guns.

So why do all the hunters say it's the best tool for the job (which is killing)?

I don't think "all the hunters" say that. Either you're making that up, or the people who call themselves hunters are seriously misrepresenting themselves. The AR is a very versatile platform, able to be customized and adapted to many different roles. But it's still always going to have an upper caliber limit, which will also limit its usefulness as a hunting rifle.

It's a great rifle for a lot of things. But it's not the "best" hunting rifle (though maybe for some things). I would, however, say that it's probably one of the best all-around rifles for things like sport shooting and home defense. But even those statements don't mean a whole lot because "best" depends on what it's being used for.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone tell me what it is that makes AR15's so dangerous? What specific feature(s) does it have that sets it apart from other rifles?

Their massive .223 inch bore size, for one.

Good one

It isn't any more dangerous than any other semi-auto rifle. It's just a popular rifle and it usually looks "tactical," so it gets a lot of attention from people who know nothing about guns.

So why do all the hunters say it's the best tool for the job (which is killing)?

I don't think "all the hunters" say that. Either you're making that up, or the people who call themselves hunters are seriously misrepresenting themselves. The AR is a very versatile platform, able to be customized and adapted to many different roles. But it's still always going to have an upper caliber limit, which will also limit its usefulness as a hunting rifle.

It's a great rifle for a lot of things. But it's not the "best" hunting rifle (though maybe for some things). I would, however, say that it's probably one of the best all-around rifles for things like sport shooting and home defense. But even those statements don't mean a whole lot because "best" depends on what it's being used for.

Not making it up, it's what the hunters say in the videos posted in this link
http://time.com/4390506/gun-control-ar-15-semiautomatic-rifles/
Which was posted upthread.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone tell me what it is that makes AR15's so dangerous? What specific feature(s) does it have that sets it apart from other rifles?

Their massive .223 inch bore size, for one.

It’s the velocity and the cavitation.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone tell me what it is that makes AR15's so dangerous? What specific feature(s) does it have that sets it apart from other rifles?

The low recoil means you can fire multiple rounds into a target easily.

Kinetic energy= 1/2mv^2 muzzle velocity = 3300 feet/sec. compare that to a 9mm at 1100 FPS. Means it can liquefy organs and explode bone.

Cavitation damage means it destroys tissue far beyond its path through the body.

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Anonymous wrote:"Show me this list of banned guns from the Clinton AWB "

Can you answer it? Yes or no?

NP here. You do not get to issue edicts that other people must follow. If you want information, try GOOGLE.

The point was that there was no list banning specific guns in the federal AWB. Anyone who claims there was is either uneducated, or lying

The irony here is rich.

Here's some trivia to illustrate (and underscore):
From when until when was the TEC-9 produced, and why was it discontinued?

Bonus question:
Where did the name for its successor, the AB-10, come from?

So you are claiming that the TEC9 was banned by name in the law, or are you just trying to twist things to fit your narrative?

I'm claiming that if you spend a few seconds googling for the answer to the first question, your question will be answered. (AB = After Ban, btw - but go google anyway since it should be humbling)

Okay, so you still haven't provided anything refuting that the Clinton AWB did not have any form of list which banned specific firearms


If it existed, refuting my claim would be a simple matter of copy/paste. Though of course that would require for the law to actually contain such language, which it does not

Here you go:

`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--
``(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the
firearms in any caliber, known as--
``(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat
Kalashnikovs (all models);
``(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and
Galil;
``(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
``(iv) Colt AR-15;
``(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
``(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
``(vii) Steyr AUG;
``(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
``(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to)
the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;

Another swing, and another list


That list isn't a list of banned firearms

Uh yes they are it’s from the 1994 law. Part A list weapons specifically banned. Part B, not shown, lists characteristics of unnamed weapons which would also be considered semi-auto for the AWB


Time for you to eat some crow.

No, that is not a list of firearms specifically banned, that is a definition and nothing more.

That would have been glaringly obvious for anyone who paid attention to the fact that AR15's were available for sale throughout the ban

You are clearly not a lawyer. Here is where the definition is used.

v)(1) It shall be unlawful for a person to manufacture,
transfer, or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon.
``(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the possession or transfer
of any semiautomatic assault weapon otherwise lawfully possessed under
Federal law on the date of the enactment of this subsection.

Maybe hot sauce will make that crow go down easier.

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So how was that crow?

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone tell me what it is that makes AR15's so dangerous? What specific feature(s) does it have that sets it apart from other rifles?

Their massive .223 inch bore size, for one.

Good one

It isn't any more dangerous than any other semi-auto rifle. It's just a popular rifle and it usually looks "tactical," so it gets a lot of attention from people who know nothing about guns.

I hear Bump Stocks work best with them..