To My Fellow Trump Voters: You guys and Gals ROCK!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After todays DACA announcement, I could not be more convinced that 1) there is a hell and 2) Trump and his ilk are going there.

Why? Because he took action on an unconstitutional EO that Obama enacted?
Everybody knows that Obama’s EO was temporary. That is the problem with Executive Orders. They can be rescinded.... laws cannot.
So, Trump has said that he will rescind this order in 6 months... time enough for the Congress to act and codify laws that deal with DACA. Not an EO. He wants Congress to take action so that our lawmakers can actually make a LAW to deal with those here illegally since childhood.

You do realize that 10 states filed lawsuits to overturn Obama’s EO. And, according to most law experts, they probably would have won.

If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at Obama. If this issue were truly important to him, he could have taken action on it when he had control of Congress. But, he didn’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:After todays DACA announcement, I could not be more convinced that 1) there is a hell and 2) Trump and his ilk are going there.

Why? Because he took action on an unconstitutional EO that Obama enacted?
Everybody knows that Obama’s EO was temporary. That is the problem with Executive Orders. They can be rescinded.... laws cannot.
So, Trump has said that he will rescind this order in 6 months... time enough for the Congress to act and codify laws that deal with DACA. Not an EO. He wants Congress to take action so that our lawmakers can actually make a LAW to deal with those here illegally since childhood.

You do realize that 10 states filed lawsuits to overturn Obama’s EO. And, according to most law experts, they probably would have won.

If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at Obama. If this issue were truly important to him, he could have taken action on it when he had control of Congress. But, he didn’t.

Oh please. Trump did not have to do anything. He has done ZERO to help the situation. Your rationalization is so misplaced.

[Anonymous]

"You guys and Gals..." Seriously Grandma - how old are you?!

However, thanks for the laugh - I really needed it today!

[Anonymous]

Send. Them. All. Home. Enforcing laws is easy, all one needs is cojones. I expect most liberals don't know much about that. Hell, they vote people out of the party for being pro-life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After todays DACA announcement, I could not be more convinced that 1) there is a hell and 2) Trump and his ilk are going there.

Why? Because he took action on an unconstitutional EO that Obama enacted?
Everybody knows that Obama’s EO was temporary. That is the problem with Executive Orders. They can be rescinded.... laws cannot.
So, Trump has said that he will rescind this order in 6 months... time enough for the Congress to act and codify laws that deal with DACA. Not an EO. He wants Congress to take action so that our lawmakers can actually make a LAW to deal with those here illegally since childhood.

You do realize that 10 states filed lawsuits to overturn Obama’s EO. And, according to most law experts, they probably would have won.

If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at Obama. If this issue were truly important to him, he could have taken action on it when he had control of Congress. But, he didn’t.

Oh please. Trump did not have to do anything. He has done ZERO to help the situation. Your rationalization is so misplaced.

So, you believe that this should have been settled in court? Courts that would certainly overturn the EO?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:After todays DACA announcement, I could not be more convinced that 1) there is a hell and 2) Trump and his ilk are going there.

Why? Because he took action on an unconstitutional EO that Obama enacted?
Everybody knows that Obama’s EO was temporary. That is the problem with Executive Orders. They can be rescinded.... laws cannot.
So, Trump has said that he will rescind this order in 6 months... time enough for the Congress to act and codify laws that deal with DACA. Not an EO. He wants Congress to take action so that our lawmakers can actually make a LAW to deal with those here illegally since childhood.

You do realize that 10 states filed lawsuits to overturn Obama’s EO. And, according to most law experts, they probably would have won.

If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at Obama. If this issue were truly important to him, he could have taken action on it when he had control of Congress. But, he didn’t.

Oh please. Trump did not have to do anything. He has done ZERO to help the situation. Your rationalization is so misplaced.

So, you believe that this should have been settled in court? Courts that would certainly overturn the EO?

Did you LISTEN to that hateful, lie-filled speech that the Confederate elf delivered today?

[Anonymous]

This thread is a joke. All of you who voted for trump are less intelligent than us. There is no contesting that. There is literally nothing you can say to counter the actual facts that are complicit with a racist, anti-intellectual organization. Enjoy your little support group session, idiots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:After todays DACA announcement, I could not be more convinced that 1) there is a hell and 2) Trump and his ilk are going there.

Why? Because he took action on an unconstitutional EO that Obama enacted?
Everybody knows that Obama’s EO was temporary. That is the problem with Executive Orders. They can be rescinded.... laws cannot.
So, Trump has said that he will rescind this order in 6 months... time enough for the Congress to act and codify laws that deal with DACA. Not an EO. He wants Congress to take action so that our lawmakers can actually make a LAW to deal with those here illegally since childhood.

You do realize that 10 states filed lawsuits to overturn Obama’s EO. And, according to most law experts, they probably would have won.

If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at Obama. If this issue were truly important to him, he could have taken action on it when he had control of Congress. But, he didn’t.

Oh please. Trump did not have to do anything. He has done ZERO to help the situation. Your rationalization is so misplaced.

So, you believe that this should have been settled in court? Courts that would certainly overturn the EO?

Did you LISTEN to that hateful, lie-filled speech that the Confederate elf delivered today?

I didn’t see any speech by a confederate elf.
I did hear AG Sessions deliver a very powerful, convincing speech as to why this decision is the right one.
It’s obvious you don’t like this administration. But, Trump got this right. Blame Obama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Send. Them. All. Home. Enforcing laws is easy, all one needs is cojones. I expect most liberals don't know much about that. Hell, they vote people out of the party for being pro-life.

They. Are. Home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ seriously, you Trump lovers are just a serious bunch of assholes.

Those are just fringe lunatics. They don't represent all Trump voters. Here's a more accurate depiction

Yep, serious bunch of assholes

Basket of deplorables.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:After todays DACA announcement, I could not be more convinced that 1) there is a hell and 2) Trump and his ilk are going there.

Why? Because he took action on an unconstitutional EO that Obama enacted?
Everybody knows that Obama’s EO was temporary. That is the problem with Executive Orders. They can be rescinded.... laws cannot.
So, Trump has said that he will rescind this order in 6 months... time enough for the Congress to act and codify laws that deal with DACA. Not an EO. He wants Congress to take action so that our lawmakers can actually make a LAW to deal with those here illegally since childhood.

You do realize that 10 states filed lawsuits to overturn Obama’s EO. And, according to most law experts, they probably would have won.

If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at Obama. If this issue were truly important to him, he could have taken action on it when he had control of Congress. But, he didn’t.

Oh please. Trump did not have to do anything. He has done ZERO to help the situation. Your rationalization is so misplaced.

So, you believe that this should have been settled in court? Courts that would certainly overturn the EO?

Did you LISTEN to that hateful, lie-filled speech that the Confederate elf delivered today?

I didn’t see any speech by a confederate elf.
I did hear AG Sessions deliver a very powerful, convincing speech as to why this decision is the right one.
It’s obvious you don’t like this administration. But, Trump got this right. Blame Obama.

That's not what he said. He kept calling them illegal aliens and claimed they are stealing jobs. He said that they'd rushed to the border in recent years upon DACA going into effect, which is a bald faced lie. He demonized these children. These children who were brought here when they were too young to make choices for themselves, and have by and large never known another home. And he looked gleeful while he did it. It was monstrous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:After todays DACA announcement, I could not be more convinced that 1) there is a hell and 2) Trump and his ilk are going there.

Why? Because he took action on an unconstitutional EO that Obama enacted?
Everybody knows that Obama’s EO was temporary. That is the problem with Executive Orders. They can be rescinded.... laws cannot.
So, Trump has said that he will rescind this order in 6 months... time enough for the Congress to act and codify laws that deal with DACA. Not an EO. He wants Congress to take action so that our lawmakers can actually make a LAW to deal with those here illegally since childhood.

You do realize that 10 states filed lawsuits to overturn Obama’s EO. And, according to most law experts, they probably would have won.

If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at Obama. If this issue were truly important to him, he could have taken action on it when he had control of Congress. But, he didn’t.

Oh please. Trump did not have to do anything. He has done ZERO to help the situation. Your rationalization is so misplaced.

So, you believe that this should have been settled in court? Courts that would certainly overturn the EO?

Did you LISTEN to that hateful, lie-filled speech that the Confederate elf delivered today?

I didn’t see any speech by a confederate elf.
I did hear AG Sessions deliver a very powerful, convincing speech as to why this decision is the right one.
It’s obvious you don’t like this administration. But, Trump got this right. Blame Obama.

That's not what he said. He kept calling them illegal aliens and claimed they are stealing jobs. He said that they'd rushed to the border in recent years upon DACA going into effect, which is a bald faced lie. He demonized these children. These children who were brought here when they were too young to make choices for themselves, and have by and large never known another home. And he looked gleeful while he did it. It was monstrous.

DP. Could you please clarify why you believe the more recent crush of teens and young adults rushing the Southern border was a lie. TIA.

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Anonymous wrote:After todays DACA announcement, I could not be more convinced that 1) there is a hell and 2) Trump and his ilk are going there.

Why? Because he took action on an unconstitutional EO that Obama enacted?
Everybody knows that Obama’s EO was temporary. That is the problem with Executive Orders. They can be rescinded.... laws cannot.
So, Trump has said that he will rescind this order in 6 months... time enough for the Congress to act and codify laws that deal with DACA. Not an EO. He wants Congress to take action so that our lawmakers can actually make a LAW to deal with those here illegally since childhood.

You do realize that 10 states filed lawsuits to overturn Obama’s EO. And, according to most law experts, they probably would have won.

If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at Obama. If this issue were truly important to him, he could have taken action on it when he had control of Congress. But, he didn’t.

Oh please. Trump did not have to do anything. He has done ZERO to help the situation. Your rationalization is so misplaced.

So, you believe that this should have been settled in court? Courts that would certainly overturn the EO?

Did you LISTEN to that hateful, lie-filled speech that the Confederate elf delivered today?

I didn’t see any speech by a confederate elf.
I did hear AG Sessions deliver a very powerful, convincing speech as to why this decision is the right one.
It’s obvious you don’t like this administration. But, Trump got this right. Blame Obama.

That's not what he said. He kept calling them illegal aliens and claimed they are stealing jobs. He said that they'd rushed to the border in recent years upon DACA going into effect, which is a bald faced lie. He demonized these children. These children who were brought here when they were too young to make choices for themselves, and have by and large never known another home. And he looked gleeful while he did it. It was monstrous.

DP. Could you please clarify why you believe the more recent crush of teens and young adults rushing the Southern border was a lie. TIA.

First off, illegal immigration is down. Second off, those kids who came to the border after Obama announced DACA aren't eligible for DACA. So sessions just lied his stupid face off, conflating these groups of people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is a joke. All of you who voted for trump are less intelligent than us. There is no contesting that. There is literally nothing you can say to counter the actual facts that are complicit with a racist, anti-intellectual organization. Enjoy your little support group session, idiots.

May I ask you what are you doing here in this thread? Why don't you go to the threads with more intelligent and educated crowd?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ummm okay. You say you are "punch the clock"-- on DCUM? Sorry, but telling Trumpkins how wonderful they are on DCUM is not a real job.

You say you believe in capitalism. So let's break it down. Supply and demand. We would not have a supply of undocumented works if there was not a high demand for low skill, low pay workers. And as for the dreamers and the H1B holders, etc.-- gonto school. Get a degree or training in a high demand field and compete in the open market for a job. That is the definition of capitalism.

You say you support law enforcement. But that apparently means supporting a rogue sheriff who knowingly violates a Court Order (aka, the rule of law). And has had three people (8ibcludibg a baby) die in his custody this year. Rooting for Arepio isn't supporting law enforcement. Working on the local level to support you LEO neighbors. And Trump could GAF about them. He has done nothing of substance to support them.

You say you believe in free speech. But what you really believe is that you should be able to say whatever crosses your mind, and no one should object or disagree. That you should be able to protest, without being bothered by pesky counterprotestors. That isn't free speech. It's fascism. Free speech means your opponent gets to disagree, counterproest anf ecpress their own opinions. With which you, in turn, can disagree.

Trump's tax plan would get rid of the mortgage deduction and pretax 401ks. The only people whose tax bills would be smaller is the top 1%. Dreamers have grown up her, gonebto college and taken good jobs. More importantly, the pay intonFICA and help keep it solvent for the Boomers.

And as for climate change, 2 words: Harvey and Irma.

So go ahead and congratulate yourself and your fellow Trumpkins. Then thinkthe issues through with your own brains. Read and learn something and try to have a thought that is too complex to be blasted far and wide in 140 characters.

I don't mind people who disagree with me, but the stupid, mindless, uncritical Fox News parrots need to stop. Disagree because that's what you believe when you turn off Fox News.

And, BTW-- a FOX News Poll says almost 60% of Smericans think Trump is tearing this country apart. So, there is that.

Can one agree with you on Arepio and yet acknowledge that Trump has the right to pardon him just as Clinton pardoned Marc Rich or Obama commuted Chelsea Manning's sentence?

Can we agree that free speech should generally not be constrained but the answer is not violence by counter-protesters disagreeing with a point of view or preventing speakers from exercising their right of free speech?

Re hurricanes we have had numerous deadly ones before those during the past decade. Is climate change making things worse? Perhaps, but I'd like to see something definitive on how things are worse today with regard to hurricanes compared to the past. I googled this and there were other deadly hurricanes before climate change came into vogue. BTW, I am not a climate change denier.

On polls, it does not surprise me that 60% feel that Trump is divisive - it equates approximately to the percentage who did not vote for him. I suspect if there was a similar poll during Obama's presidency you would have about the same percentage. It reflects a divided and polarized nation. Besides, I really have become quite skeptical of polls given the recent record.

Excellent points and great post. I agree.