Why wouldn't you pick immersion?

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering for those of you who aren't interested in language immersion do you already speak a second language at home or are you not involved really internationally?


Totally involved internationally, eat at Taco Bell at least once a week. Yo quiero and all!



Is that the answer you're looking for?


I have a passport, does that count as being involved internationally? I've even used it!


I'll one up you. I have visited the Epcot Center and ate at the ethnic food restaurants so that little Billy could have an immersion experience.

Repeat after me, Billy: "Lo Mein"


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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't you pick expeditionary learning? That's a true gift that you can give your child.


So trite. I am sick of people saying "Why wouldn't you pick [insert specialized curriculum--Montessori, Reggio, expeditionary learning, IB, and most frequently dual language]." If it works for your kid, great, but are you really saying that you can't see that others might have different priorities for their children?



It was sarcasm... mocking both the expeditionary learning and dual language cults. Apologies in advance to the whole-child-learning-model kool-aid drinkers. I think you're nuts too.


Lol! Bitter much? C'mon, tell us: which dual-language/Montessori/expeditionary - learning school are you pissed your kid didn't get into?
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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't you pick expeditionary learning? That's a true gift that you can give your child.


So trite. I am sick of people saying "Why wouldn't you pick [insert specialized curriculum--Montessori, Reggio, expeditionary learning, IB, and most frequently dual language]." If it works for your kid, great, but are you really saying that you can't see that others might have different priorities for their children?



It was sarcasm... mocking both the expeditionary learning and dual language cults. Apologies in advance to the whole-child-learning-model kool-aid drinkers. I think you're nuts too.


Lol! Bitter much? C'mon, tell us: which dual-language/Montessori/expeditionary - learning school are you pissed your kid didn't get into?


Project much? I find sarcasm to be a great response to stupidity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just shared this on the Lee vs. Stokes thread but thought I'd post here too...

I choose montessori over immersion because i think creating good learning and work habits first is more important that becoming bilingual. I was not raised in a bilingual environment or with Spanish until high school, and after a few years of living abroad and traveling I am now fluent in Spanish.


First of all, I doubt your "Fluency". You may speak it very well, but that's worlds apart from being truly fluent. Sorry. I've met people like you, and you guys are never truly fluent.

Secondly, your crappy school has been around for less than a year. I doubt very much it's the only school where you can "create good learning and work habits."

I wouldn't enroll my child in a brand new school like Lee, and the obnoxious Lee boosters are only giving me more reason to stay away.
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Anonymous wrote:I just shared this on the Lee vs. Stokes thread but thought I'd post here too...

I choose montessori over immersion because i think creating good learning and work habits first is more important that becoming bilingual. I was not raised in a bilingual environment or with Spanish until high school, and after a few years of living abroad and traveling I am now fluent in Spanish.


First of all, I doubt your "Fluency". You may speak it very well, but that's worlds apart from being truly fluent. Sorry. I've met people like you, and you guys are never truly fluent.

Secondly, your crappy school has been around for less than a year. I doubt very much it's the only school where you can "create good learning and work habits."

I wouldn't enroll my child in a brand new school like Lee, and the obnoxious Lee boosters are only giving me more reason to stay away.


Pot, meet kettle.
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We got into YY about 5 years ago when they were doing date stamped wait lists. Ultimately, we got into our JKLM pre-K program and decided to send child there. The commute to YY was horrible both ways (I tried it) and that didnt' seem like time well spent. I also didn't know if I would be able to support Manderin. Lastly, I liked the idea of being in a "neighborhood" school. That said, if there was a neighborhood school that had an immersion option, I would pick it in a heart beat.
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Anonymous wrote:We got into YY about 5 years ago when they were doing date stamped wait lists. Ultimately, we got into our JKLM pre-K program and decided to send child there. The commute to YY was horrible both ways (I tried it) and that didnt' seem like time well spent. I also didn't know if I would be able to support Manderin. Lastly, I liked the idea of being in a "neighborhood" school. That said, if there was a neighborhood school that had an immersion option, I would pick it in a heart beat.


It irritates me when people post statements like yours. You are aware that DC has neighborhood immersion schools, right? You just chose to live in a neighborhood with a monolingual school.
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What do you think of Tyler, since we are talking about neighborhood immersion schools?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We got into YY about 5 years ago when they were doing date stamped wait lists. Ultimately, we got into our JKLM pre-K program and decided to send child there. The commute to YY was horrible both ways (I tried it) and that didnt' seem like time well spent. I also didn't know if I would be able to support Manderin. Lastly, I liked the idea of being in a "neighborhood" school. That said, if there was a neighborhood school that had an immersion option, I would pick it in a heart beat.


A great immersion first step would be to learn how to spell "Mandarin"
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Anonymous wrote:I just shared this on the Lee vs. Stokes thread but thought I'd post here too...

I choose montessori over immersion because i think creating good learning and work habits first is more important that becoming bilingual. I was not raised in a bilingual environment or with Spanish until high school, and after a few years of living abroad and traveling I am now fluent in Spanish.


First of all, I doubt your "Fluency". You may speak it very well, but that's worlds apart from being truly fluent. Sorry. I've met people like you, and you guys are never truly fluent.

Secondly, your crappy school has been around for less than a year. I doubt very much it's the only school where you can "create good learning and work habits."

I wouldn't enroll my child in a brand new school like Lee, and the obnoxious Lee boosters are only giving me more reason to stay away.


I don't go to Lee, have no interest in Montessori at all. I also agree with your point that often fluency is not quite fluent. However I also definitely am happy you'll stay far away from Lee, that is best for all kids and families there. You sound like you bring an unpleasant cloud over anywhere you go. A bit sad for wherever you do have kids, but hopefully your kids are rising above that cloud.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just shared this on the Lee vs. Stokes thread but thought I'd post here too...

I choose montessori over immersion because i think creating good learning and work habits first is more important that becoming bilingual. I was not raised in a bilingual environment or with Spanish until high school, and after a few years of living abroad and traveling I am now fluent in Spanish.


First of all, I doubt your "Fluency". You may speak it very well, but that's worlds apart from being truly fluent. Sorry. I've met people like you, and you guys are never truly fluent.

Secondly, your crappy school has been around for less than a year. I doubt very much it's the only school where you can "create good learning and work habits."

I wouldn't enroll my child in a brand new school like Lee, and the obnoxious Lee boosters are only giving me more reason to stay away.


I don't go to Lee, have no interest in Montessori at all. I also agree with your point that often fluency is not quite fluent. However I also definitely am happy you'll stay far away from Lee, that is best for all kids and families there. You sound like you bring an unpleasant cloud over anywhere you go. A bit sad for wherever you do have kids, but hopefully your kids are rising above that cloud.


Another non Lee (or immersion parent at that) parent here. I completely agree. Sure, the Lee posters can seem anxious, maybe a little mean sometimes. This response was uncalled for. Also, I have many friends at immersion charters and even Oyster. Even the older kids are hardly "fluent" like you describe. No need for the judgment or the meanness.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just shared this on the Lee vs. Stokes thread but thought I'd post here too...

I choose montessori over immersion because i think creating good learning and work habits first is more important that becoming bilingual. I was not raised in a bilingual environment or with Spanish until high school, and after a few years of living abroad and traveling I am now fluent in Spanish.


First of all, I doubt your "Fluency". You may speak it very well, but that's worlds apart from being truly fluent. Sorry. I've met people like you, and you guys are never truly fluent.

Secondly, your crappy school has been around for less than a year. I doubt very much it's the only school where you can "create good learning and work habits."

I wouldn't enroll my child in a brand new school like Lee, and the obnoxious Lee boosters are only giving me more reason to stay away.


I don't go to Lee, have no interest in Montessori at all. I also agree with your point that often fluency is not quite fluent. However I also definitely am happy you'll stay far away from Lee, that is best for all kids and families there. You sound like you bring an unpleasant cloud over anywhere you go. A bit sad for wherever you do have kids, but hopefully your kids are rising above that cloud.


Another non Lee (or immersion parent at that) parent here. I completely agree. Sure, the Lee posters can seem anxious, maybe a little mean sometimes. This response was uncalled for. Also, I have many friends at immersion charters and even Oyster. Even the older kids are hardly "fluent" like you describe. No need for the judgment or the meanness.


Please stop dragging Oyster into your arguments to make baseless points. I live IB and actually have children who attend Oyster (gasp!). The vast majority of the older Oyster kids that I have encountered, who have been there since PK or K, are most definitely fluent.
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Tyler is not an immersion school ... only 2 classes per grade level, mixed with an Arts curriculum that surrounds with more kids. Not at the same level as what is offered at schools like Oyster, Mundo Verde, Powell, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just shared this on the Lee vs. Stokes thread but thought I'd post here too...

I choose montessori over immersion because i think creating good learning and work habits first is more important that becoming bilingual. I was not raised in a bilingual environment or with Spanish until high school, and after a few years of living abroad and traveling I am now fluent in Spanish.


First of all, I doubt your "Fluency". You may speak it very well, but that's worlds apart from being truly fluent. Sorry. I've met people like you, and you guys are never truly fluent.

Secondly, your crappy school has been around for less than a year. I doubt very much it's the only school where you can "create good learning and work habits."

I wouldn't enroll my child in a brand new school like Lee, and the obnoxious Lee boosters are only giving me more reason to stay away.


I don't go to Lee, have no interest in Montessori at all. I also agree with your point that often fluency is not quite fluent. However I also definitely am happy you'll stay far away from Lee, that is best for all kids and families there. You sound like you bring an unpleasant cloud over anywhere you go. A bit sad for wherever you do have kids, but hopefully your kids are rising above that cloud.


Another non Lee (or immersion parent at that) parent here. I completely agree. Sure, the Lee posters can seem anxious, maybe a little mean sometimes. This response was uncalled for. Also, I have many friends at immersion charters and even Oyster. Even the older kids are hardly "fluent" like you describe. No need for the judgment or the meanness.


Please stop dragging Oyster into your arguments to make baseless points. I live IB and actually have children who attend Oyster (gasp!). The vast majority of the older Oyster kids that I have encountered, who have been there since PK or K, are most definitely fluent.


Are you a native Spanish speaker PP? Because unless you are, you can't say it's baseless. This seems to be about native speakers' perceptions of "true fluency", which is of course a somewhat subjective concept, but you really can't say it's baseless for Oyster unless you're a native speaker yourself. Are you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just shared this on the Lee vs. Stokes thread but thought I'd post here too...

I choose montessori over immersion because i think creating good learning and work habits first is more important that becoming bilingual. I was not raised in a bilingual environment or with Spanish until high school, and after a few years of living abroad and traveling I am now fluent in Spanish.


First of all, I doubt your "Fluency". You may speak it very well, but that's worlds apart from being truly fluent. Sorry. I've met people like you, and you guys are never truly fluent.

Secondly, your crappy school has been around for less than a year. I doubt very much it's the only school where you can "create good learning and work habits."

I wouldn't enroll my child in a brand new school like Lee, and the obnoxious Lee boosters are only giving me more reason to stay away.


I don't go to Lee, have no interest in Montessori at all. I also agree with your point that often fluency is not quite fluent. However I also definitely am happy you'll stay far away from Lee, that is best for all kids and families there. You sound like you bring an unpleasant cloud over anywhere you go. A bit sad for wherever you do have kids, but hopefully your kids are rising above that cloud.


Another non Lee (or immersion parent at that) parent here. I completely agree. Sure, the Lee posters can seem anxious, maybe a little mean sometimes. This response was uncalled for. Also, I have many friends at immersion charters and even Oyster. Even the older kids are hardly "fluent" like you describe. No need for the judgment or the meanness.


Please stop dragging Oyster into your arguments to make baseless points. I live IB and actually have children who attend Oyster (gasp!). The vast majority of the older Oyster kids that I have encountered, who have been there since PK or K, are most definitely fluent.


Are you a native Spanish speaker PP? Because unless you are, you can't say it's baseless. This seems to be about native speakers' perceptions of "true fluency", which is of course a somewhat subjective concept, but you really can't say it's baseless for Oyster unless you're a native speaker yourself. Are you?


Yes, I am a native speaker. As I said earlier, the prior poster's statement is baseless. Unlike that poster, I have first hand experience to support my statement.
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