residency cheater

[Anonymous]

When my youngest was at our JKLM two years ago there was a family there who had found a house under foreclosure and used that as their bogus address. A classmate lived next door to the foreclosed house and was quite surprised when the school directory came out to see a family listed in a house that literally had a padlock from the bank on the front door. We don't feed Deal but I'm pretty sure the kids are somehow at Deal now.

So not a random address, but not one with any legitimate connection.

I do not believe this story. There has been a moratorium on foreclosures in the District for quite some time now. They are just now starting to issue title policies for foreclosures. There were not any foreclosures in all of DC 2 years ago.


I am a real estate agent. This is 100% not true.


[b]Show me one Foreclosure in NW DC since late 2010-late 2014. Not a DIL but a foreclosure. I manage foreclosures.

I don't know the exact legal status of the house, it may not technically be a foreclosure. But it's boarded up and no one has lived there for a long time.

And this is what is referred to as backtracking. [/b]

PP2, please look up "backtracking" and you will see that this is not what it its.

PP1, while we are all impressed with your knowledge of DC foreclosure laws, you are truly missing the point. Why are you so invested in defending the behavior of the family who registered at a school as IB when they clearly were not?

PP1 & 2, the legal status of the residence itself is irrelevant. Foreclosure, condemnation, abandoned, tax lein, who cares? DC law requires that children register at the address which is their "primary residence." Clearly, the house, which no one has lived in for many years and which has had a padlock and a notice stuck on the front door for many years, was not the child's "primary residence."

[Anonymous]

How is it immoral to report the parents of my kids friend? Seems that looking the other way because of a personal relationship is more wrong. Unless you don't think fraud is an issue of is only an issue when committed by people you don't know. I might wait til toward end of school year to minimize impact on kid but I would do it and let the chips fall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just report the people! if you're wrong, they'll have been inconvenienced by someone checking them out. I, for one, wouldn't mind if someone checked me out because I'm a bonafide DC resident. If you're right, a deserving DC child will get a space in a sought after school. It's a win-win IMO. People worth a damn are in favor of preserving DC resources for DC people. Let the investigations begin! Only cheaters would be pissed at this.

Absolutely correct.

+1000. No-one legitimately at a school would care. I drive sober and don't care about being breathalyzed. I have legal immigration status and don't care about being asked to prove it. I get asked by security to show my receipt upon leaving a store and have no problem doing so. You only sweat this stuff when you know you're doing something wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is it immoral to report the parents of my kids friend? Seems that looking the other way because of a personal relationship is more wrong. Unless you don't think fraud is an issue of is only an issue when committed by people you don't know. I might wait til toward end of school year to minimize impact on kid but I would do it and let the chips fall.

I like the idea of waiting until the end of the year to minimize the impact on the kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was a residency cheater at my DC's elementary. I have to give it to the family. They were really savvy. I wonder if there is an underground network or some guide published online. Hate to say this, but my faith in DCPS was really shaky after figuring out their deal and realizing that it is relatively easy to finagle your kid into a public school AND charters.

Give us the scoop so we can spot someone else with the playbook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Just report the people! if you're wrong, they'll have been inconvenienced by someone checking them out. I, for one, wouldn't mind if someone checked me out because I'm a bonafide DC resident. If you're right, a deserving DC child will get a space in a sought after school. It's a win-win IMO. People worth a damn are in favor of preserving DC resources for DC people. Let the investigations begin! Only cheaters would be pissed at this.

Absolutely correct.

+1000. No-one legitimately at a school would care. I drive sober and don't care about being breathalyzed. I have legal immigration status and don't care about being asked to prove it. I get asked by security to show my receipt upon leaving a store and have no problem doing so. You only sweat this stuff when you know you're doing something wrong.

This. This. This!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here.
I know the PG county (yes, it's PG) address and phone number for this family (via simple google search). I know they don't live in the DC house because I am friends with the people who own the house!
It appears these cheaters picked an address out of the phone book and it worked (so far).
I will keep emailing and calling until this is resolved.
I hate this kind of deception.

I am interested in the kind of deception that doesn't bother you so much, and the kind that you engage in. Share, please!

[Anonymous]

According to various accounts, the Eaton principal and the secretary/business manager lived in MD. We don't know if he paid tuition or was given a waiver. I was told, the secretary was reported each year but she gave an address on Connecticut Ave. for her residence. At the time, some parents wanted them there.

[Anonymous]

I am more interested in undocumented families in the USA not DMV residency issues in the schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stokes parent here. Residency cheating is pretty rampant at Stokes and the school really doesn't care. My son's best friend lives in MD. The mother admitted it. He's had sleepovers at his house. We reported it to OSSE and the school, they were told that they had been reported and they submitted the same fradulent documents as before, which were happily accepted by the school.

The trouble is that the system is broken. Part of the reporting procedure asks the parent doing the reporting to prove which fraudulent documents the residency frauds turned into the school. How am I supposed to know that?

Reported your son's best friend huh? Wow.

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+1000. I get that it's wrong and illegal, but where is your humanity? Have you no soul?

Tell it to those that got totally shut out (and are legitimate DC residents). Tell it to those on the wait list who just miss out on getting in. Then let's chat about my soul.

+1. Don't worry about those trying to shame you for doing the right thing. You didn't report someone who was stealing food to feed their starving family, but a well-organized family who is driving a long commute (and burning a lot of gas!) to steal a spot at a school from families who might live a few blocks away, or at least in the same city, and end up shut out from options they are entitled to. I'd worry about the souls of the bullies, their boosters, and the school administrations choosing not to respond ethically.

Why do the school administrators who chose to look the other way?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to various accounts, the Eaton principal and the secretary/business manager lived in MD. We don't know if he paid tuition or was given a waiver. I was told, the secretary was reported each year but she gave an address on Connecticut Ave. for her residence. At the time, some parents wanted them there.

At the time several parents checked with DCPS and confirmed that Eaton had no tuition-paying students. I don't know anyone (except the perpetrators involved) who "wanted" cheating families at the school. Concerned parents were very conscious that a number of DC kids had been unsuccessful in getting a coveted slot in the lottery and the scammers were essentially stealing those seats. DCPS finally caught on to the principal and moved him out of the school , but I don't think ever did anything about the residency fraud.

[Anonymous]

I think it is difficult situation b/c many of the kids are descendants of native Washingtonians and have families who live in MD, VA or DC. These kids are sometimes transient and are in and out of relatives house. I think many UMC white people come from a nuclear family background and don't understand that some of these kids have different family situations. That is my experience at least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it is difficult situation b/c many of the kids are descendants of native Washingtonians and have families who live in MD, VA or DC. These kids are sometimes transient and are in and out of relatives house. I think many UMC white people come from a nuclear family background and don't understand that some of these kids have different family situations. That is my experience at least.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is difficult situation b/c many of the kids are descendants of native Washingtonians and have families who live in MD, VA or DC. These kids are sometimes transient and are in and out of relatives house. I think many UMC white people come from a nuclear family background and don't understand that some of these kids have different family situations. That is my experience at least.

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That may be the case, but the vast vast majority of people who are cheating the system don't fall within that description. And if they do, they likely still have one parent or guardian who has proof of residency in DC. So if they're in and out of grandma's house in PG county, they probably still have either mom or dad in the district who can show a DC pay stub -- even if they don't spend much time at their parents'. I also suspect that if OSSE was investigating a case where a kid was literally semi-homeless and their DC-based parents had recently deserted them such that their living situation was tenuous, but that they had initially provided sufficient proof of DC residence, that OSSE would likely take a soft position on that one extreme case.

[Anonymous]

PG and Mongomery county have public schools right? Then why are these people excusing these residency cheaters? It's not like the kids of these criminals won't be able to attend school, it's just that their school might not be as nice or as convenient for pick up/drop off.

I think every dc resident can relate to wanting an easier school run or commute. The difference is we don't make Maryland taxpayers pay for it. Lets keep dc schools for dc kids.