Why obsess over getting into gifted program?

[Anonymous]

Phelps etc did not prep for a specific test....they worked on a tool kit. Prepping for the CogAT is not transportable. Learning to dribble, kick better etc is.



PP: You are simplply wrong. research ethics.

What is a NBAC mini swim meet or time trial? Is this a test?

[Anonymous]

Is a time trial or swim meet a tool kit for which the winner gets points, ribbons, trophies and an admissions letter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the anti prep person. Prepping for me is preparing for the specific test, which is (IMHO) unethical, as the test is scaled assuming there is no prep. I can not site a reference for that.

There is a huge difference between prep for a specific test as a 2nd grader that should not be prepped, and activities that grow the overall mind. Reading, critical thinking, creative play, etc all can enhance ones mental capacity. Playing chess, checkers, even monopoly and risk will hav long term benifits, and can lead to increased intellectual capability.

Specific drill and practice for the CogAT will not; it may increase the score but will not accomplish anything else.

In addition, getting into AAP is not that hard.

BTW< you can also game the WISC: take it three times in two weeks. The kid will score a higher score. Most psychologists would consider that unethical.

You may be educated but you're so ill-informed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the anti prep person. Prepping for me is preparing for the specific test, which is (IMHO) unethical, as the test is scaled assuming there is no prep. I can not site a reference for that.

There is a huge difference between prep for a specific test as a 2nd grader that should not be prepped, and activities that grow the overall mind. Reading, critical thinking, creative play, etc all can enhance ones mental capacity. Playing chess, checkers, even monopoly and risk will hav long term benifits, and can lead to increased intellectual capability.

Specific drill and practice for the CogAT will not; it may increase the score but will not accomplish anything else.

In addition, getting into AAP is not that hard.

BTW< you can also game the WISC: take it three times in two weeks. The kid will score a higher score. Most psychologists would consider that unethical.

How can you take the WISCONSIN three times in 2 weeks? You can only take it once a year.

Three different psycologists, each not knowning about the others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the anti prep person. Prepping for me is preparing for the specific test, which is (IMHO) unethical, as the test is scaled assuming there is no prep. I can not site a reference for that.

There is a huge difference between prep for a specific test as a 2nd grader that should not be prepped, and activities that grow the overall mind. Reading, critical thinking, creative play, etc all can enhance ones mental capacity. Playing chess, checkers, even monopoly and risk will hav long term benifits, and can lead to increased intellectual capability.

Specific drill and practice for the CogAT will not; it may increase the score but will not accomplish anything else.

In addition, getting into AAP is not that hard.

BTW< you can also game the WISC: take it three times in two weeks. The kid will score a higher score. Most psychologists would consider that unethical.

You may be educated but you're so ill-informed.

What did I say that is ill-informed?

[Anonymous]

I think there might be some high school kids with time on their hands before school starts posting on this thread. The name calling, the less than respectful tone toward other posters, calling people who disagree "wackadoodles" and "crazies", and just the overall tone of some of these posts don't really say "grown-up" to me. I love an intellectual discussion of an interesting topic as much as the next person, but sadly, this thread keeps veering away from that. It's too bad, because this is a good topic upon which reasonable, informed people may disagree, but could learn from each other in the right context.

[Anonymous]

This is the downside of anonymous forums

[Anonymous]

What did I say that is ill-informed?

Don't worry, be happy. If you don't get it you never will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What did I say that is ill-informed?

Don't worry, be happy. If you don't get it you never will.

No head; no headache.

[Anonymous]

I think there might be some high school kids with time on their hands before school starts posting on this thread. The name calling, the less than respectful tone toward other posters, calling people who disagree "wackadoodles" and "crazies", and just the overall tone of some of these posts don't really say "grown-up" to me. I love an intellectual discussion of an interesting topic as much as the next person, but sadly, this thread keeps veering away from that. It's too bad, because this is a good topic upon which reasonable, informed people may disagree, but could learn from each other in the right context.

This is the downside of anonymous forums

Where is the downside? Some high school students have more intelligence and common sense than many adults here. Some even understand genetics and drivers of intelligence, mental and physical performance. Do not be too quick to blame "some high school kids" for the blazen ignorance of uneducated adults.

[Anonymous]

And, so quickly, we see examples to illustrate 11:59.

[Anonymous]

And, so quickly, we see examples to illustrate 11:59.

Stay focused. Don't be part of the distraction for lack of argument or point.

[Anonymous]

Some high school students have more intelligence and common sense than many adults here. Some even understand genetics and drivers of intelligence, mental and physical performance.

Even geneticists do not yet fully understand genetics. There is still much to be learned and our understanding of many topics in science is constantly growing. I don't think any scientist would come on here and say, "We know everything there is to know about DNA now and here's the facts, folks!"

[Anonymous]

Even geneticists do not yet fully understand genetics. There is still much to be learned and our understanding of many topics in science is constantly growing. I don't think any scientist would come on here and say, "We know everything there is to know about DNA now and here's the facts, folks!"

Can you identify any geneticists who has come forward here to claim we do not fully understand genetics or "we know everything there is to know about DANA now and here's the facts, folks!"?

Do not create stories in your head (?)

It is common knowledge mind and body are plastic and not immutable at conception or birth. This is accepted dogma. You do not need to be a geneticist to understand this or interpret the rich scientific literature. It is well within the reach of the middle school and high school curricula in Virginia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the anti prep person. Prepping for me is preparing for the specific test, which is (IMHO) unethical, as the test is scaled assuming there is no prep. I can not site a reference for that.

There is a huge difference between prep for a specific test as a 2nd grader that should not be prepped, and activities that grow the overall mind. Reading, critical thinking, creative play, etc all can enhance ones mental capacity. Playing chess, checkers, even monopoly and risk will hav long term benifits, and can lead to increased intellectual capability.

Specific drill and practice for the CogAT will not; it may increase the score but will not accomplish anything else.

In addition, getting into AAP is not that hard.

BTW< you can also game the WISC: take it three times in two weeks. The kid will score a higher score. Most psychologists would consider that unethical.

Butndon't the scores go to a central testing company paired with your child's name? Or do you lie about that too? Nice way to teach your child ethics.

How can you take the WISCONSIN three times in 2 weeks? You can only take it once a year.

Three different psycologists, each not knowning about the others.