Gaslight level 10/10. I mean c'mon now. |
All religions and cults provide connection and networking opportunities for members. Some groups are more lucrative and beneficial for members than others. It’s a choice to be an active member of any group. |
Is your argument all American Jews are rich? Because my Jewish father in law who never attended college and mother in law who got her BA in her 50s, and most of their extended family who work as teachers, in trades, or for car dealerships and grocery stores would be very interested to know how they get access to the automatic wealth. |
Again, please stop lying and gaslighting us. Hamas was created in the 1980’s as resistance to the occupation. The problem has been happening since 1948 when Palestinians were displaced and murdered en masse and has been going on ever since - ethnic cleansing, apartheid, children in prison with zero rights, and on and on. Also please stop with telling us that Israelis are not anti Palestinian. Here’s an Israeli paper that says the majority of Israelis are not troubled by the starvation in Gaza: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-05/ty-article/.premium/large-majority-of-israeli-jews-untroubled-by-reports-of-famine-in-gaza-poll-finds/00000198-7ab3-d0ce-a5de-fbb374f30000 And yes, I bring receipts when I make claims. |
I’m happy, comfortable, well-educated and well-off, but I still would prefer if I didn’t have to go through a metal detector to go to synagogue. I don’t feel constantly, or even often, threatened for being Jewish, but I think it’s pretty silly to say that if you’re happy in most regards it doesn’t matter if some people hold misguided stereotypes or hatred for you. Antisemitism isn’t like most other prejudices — being successful actually often makes people hate Jews MORE. It’s a conspiracy theory at heart, that we’re too powerful and run the world. No one is going to deny me a job or a mortgage these days because I’m Jewish, but that doesn’t mean there’s no cost at all to Jew-hatred for the Jews. Just ask the unfortunately large number of Jews who have been shot in recent years at their synagogues — even entirely excluding incidents where the shooters say they were motivated by Israeli atrocities (which I don’t think is really a reasonable thing to exclude, but let’s do it for the sake of argument), you still have neo-Nazis attacking us because they think we’re bringing in non-whites to somehow ruin the country. Sure, your Jewish friends may be happy, but I bet they’d be happier if that didn’t happen! |
I am an active atheist because I don’t enjoy or appreciate the forced collectivism and conformity that comes with all religions. I don’t have to worry about being shot for discussing my ancestry or going to church or temple where metal detectors are required. I live freely and independently in the modern day and I am my own person not the culmination of my supposed ancient ancestors. |
But as an atheist I lack any sense of community, I have no sense of belonging with anyone outside of my family. If I want something it’s up to me to obtain it, I have no support or network I can fall back on. This sense of community and belonging should be available to all Americans but it isn’t unless you join a group. You can’t have everything I guess. The religious or cult members have a sense of belonging and support but are afraid while doing it, I am free and fearless but totally left on my own. So pick your poison. |
Good for you, seriously. But I don’t think I should have to give up traditions that are important to me (and that have been important to my family for generations) in exchange for safety. |
They do get a boost because Jews are more likely to hire or befriend other Jews. That happens with all groups and ethncities and it’s what perpetuates the success - for example, you see the same with Mormons. |
You're the only one making this about Jews or assuming hatred of Jews. I'm still waiting for you to explain to me how it's anti-Semitic to say we should stop supporting the Israeli parasite, so we can take care of our own at home - including American Jews. |
You could be free and as relatively safe as anyone else if you chose to be. |
Jews are not more likely to hire other Jews. I’ve hired lots of people and very few of them have been Jews. And I work in an industry where Jews are heavily over-represented to the point that there’s a stereotype that we control it! |
Right but you do see where telling me that I can be safe as long as I don’t want to be Jewish anymore might come off as something less than the optimal solution from my perspective? |
No, it is not true--it is common for people from collectivist, low-trust societies--we are not all like them. |
What a clever threat--buy antisemitism relies on cleverness as we see. |