Hamas’ Systematic Rapes of Israelis to Inflict Maximum Suffering

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Anonymous wrote:Hardly a cultist, or in any way, shape or form a Hamas supporter, but the answer to your question should be pretty obvious: every other group of violent, raiding men was not facing an adversary that is possessed of LITERALLY an insurmountable military advantage.

The suggestion that these Hamas scumbags were not running and gunning, but instead taking their time and systematically raping people and engaging in acts that would cause them to remain in Israel for longer periods of time (and thus increase greatly their odds of being caught - and killed on the spot) … I mean, use your goddamned brain already. This was a get in, get out operation but you keep expecting us to believe that these POS terrorists were lollygagging instead of running and gunning? TFOH.

Rape is about power dynamics. Hamas has zero power in the shadow of the IDF. It’s the exact same reason why the IDF rapes and SAs detainees, and frankly, the exact same reason why the Israeli culture is so welcoming of child molesters and its rape culture.

That’s why - not because Hamas has more morality, but because they lacked the freedom of time on the clock to do what you keep accusing them of, what no credible evidence supports, and what has been debunked over and over again. If they had more time, would they have done so? Who knows. But they didn’t have time for anything beyond what would have been random and situational.

They took a lot of young women back to Gaza on motorcycles. Are you saying Hamas were gentleman kidnappers? They just locked the women in dark tunnels but didn't venture to rape them? Or are you saying Hamas was so bloodthirsty they were too busy killing to rape? You people are absolutely insane, no wonder employers fire you and colleges bar you from speaking.

Of course they weren’t gentlemen kidnappers. Very likely, they were doing the same thing done to Palestinian women and men detained by Israeli security forces. Israel knows exactly what Hamas may have done : the same things they have

Sure. But the pro-Hamas posters here are taking the position that Hamas did not systematically rape, tortured, and kill anyone. Plus we also have the it-would-be-hilarious-if-it-weren’t-so-grotesque poster who is claiming that Hamas didn’t have the time in their busy, busy killing schedule of 10/7 to also rape and torture the women and children.

The exact point is that both the sides of this conflict are amoral and brutal, but their supporters on whatever side can’t admit that, and lie about the brutality of what their side does. It’s ironic because their supporters do more to convince people of how evil their side is than the opposite.

We're not Pro-Hamas posters, you amateur. We're ppl actually educated on the history of all of this. You think kidnapping means RAPE? Oh, right, the goal posts always move when it's not Israel. Amazing how Israel can rape on camera, have a history of it and you still act like you can say the same about Hamas. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT HAMAS. You're childish in thinking that if we don't go along w/ that lie, it's a defense of what Hamas did.

Tell me, why did Israel stop allowing released hostages to give interviews? If you actually gave a damn, you'd watch all of the women who were interviewed after their release. The overwhelming majority said they were treated well and not one said they were raped. In fact, that one with inflated lips got raped after she was released by her fellow Israeli, but God forbid you ever stop defending Israel savagery and rape culture.

Wait - are you the lunatic who claimed the IDF actually trained DOGS to rape prisoners?? You know that is anatomically impossible, right? You and your constant stream of BS are sickening. Crawl back in your hole.
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If it's anatomically not possible then why do Holocaust and Pinochet's Dirty War survivors say it happened to them? Are they lying?

Exactly what sources are you using that make this claim? Because I've never, ever read anything of the sort.

Posted several times in this thread and you chose to ignore it. A dimwit doesn't seem to comprehend that the one holding the leash can actually get an animal to mount
WTF do you think bestiality is if an animal penetrating a person is impossible? Do you also think it hasn't happened w/ like horses?

This has already been posted once. You ignored it: https://holocaust.umd.umich.edu/interview.php?D=sobel§ion=13

"I heard stories how the Germans trained dogs to rape women."

So don't ever again question anyone who questions the Holocaust, not that you guys aren't doing an immense favor to those who question the Holocaust by doing this to Palestinians.

Chile:

Ingrid Olderock: A DINA captain and trainer who ran a torture center, specifically at Venda Sexy, where she used her German Shepherd dog, named "Volodia," to sexually assault female detainees.

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BTW, WTF difference does the dog thing even make when you defend the countless rapes by knives, hot sticks and various other ways that Israel has raped Palestinians from its inception?

You're such disgusting and deranged pp.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly, every word of this needs to be posted. Those of you denying the truth that Hamas are absolute monsters should be hanging your heads in shame.

Reading “Silenced No More,” the new report by the Civil Commission on October 7th Crimes by Hamas Against Women and Children, we were transported back to Oct. 27, 2023, and a screening of the raw footage of Hamas’s atrocities. The mouths of journalists were agape, but time dulls horrific reality.

The new report is a catalogue, for memory’s sake, of Hamas depravity. Testimony from site after site attests to rape and assault. Screams and pleas. Gunshots to the face and genitals. Mutilation. Burning. Bodies naked, legs spread. Grotesque scenes staged. All forming an evidentiary record, the result of more than 10,000 photos and video segments and more than 430 interviews, testimonies and meetings with survivors, witnesses and experts.

“I saw them raping her,” says Raz Cohen, who escaped the Nova Music Festival where 396 people were slaughtered. “Then they murdered her. And then they raped her again.”

Eden Wessely, who came to Nova to rescue a friend, found and filmed a naked, burned body. “Her dress was pulled up, and she wasn’t wearing underwear, not because it burned, because there was no trace. . . . Her legs were spread. Her genitals were exposed.” A review by forensic pathologists confirmed these details.

Yoni Saadon recounts another horror: “She fell to the ground, shot in the head, and I pulled her body over me and smeared her blood on me so it would look as if I was dead too. . . . I will never forget her face. Every night I wake to it and apologize to her, saying ‘I’m sorry.’” Later he saw “a beautiful woman with the face of an angel and 8 or 10 fighters beating and raping her.” The last one shot her in the head. Each example here is of a civilian non-combatant.

A male says he was gang-raped at the Nova site, providing medical records and a detailed account: “They laughed, they were really pleased, as if I was their sex doll.” The Hamas invaders had been given operational materials including Arabic-to-Hebrew phrase lists such as “take off your pants/take your clothes off,” “lie down” and “spread your legs.” The planned sexual degradation speaks to years of Palestinian propaganda that treats Jews as sub-human.

Is this the same Raz Cohen who has been in the news lately? Total liar, no?

Also although I don’t doubt Hamas acted horrifically and should be charged with war crimes, I believe much of the rape claims have been thoroughly debunked, including by the families of some of the alleged rape victims.

https://www.yesmagazine.org/social-justice/2024/03/05/israel-hamas-oct7-report-gaza

You won't get a response to the fact that they use actual liars in the report including the one who wrote it. If she actually had proof, she wouldn't have psychotically posted a picture of a Kurdish woman in another country as a Nova victim, but then, these vile creatures get to just be known liars and still be taken seriously by fewer ppl.

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Apparently we are all supposed to believe that Hamas didn’t act like every other group of violent men in history because Israel lies or whatever. I mean Israel may indeed lie but that still doesn’t mean I need to abandon all common sense and understanding of the history of the world.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the posts. I believe what is happening in Gaza is a genocide. I believe the IDF have committed horrific atrocities. I also believe Oct 7 was mass murder by Hamas. I’m pretty certain Hamas also has committed brutal crimes against prisoners. Why can’t both sides acknowledge that each are guilty of awful, awful things, including (sadly) rape?

Because every released hostage by Hamas has said they were treated well. Israel stopped letting hostages do interviews specifically because it was a bad look for Israel. Fact is that I can post countless videos of hostages' own words and then post how Palestinian hostages are treated by those savages for 80 years. Palestinians who were released had their families told they weren't allowed to celebrate. That's how disgusting israelis are. Even controlling a Palestinian's emotions when reunited w/ family.

This is everything pp around the world know about while pathetic, old a-holes on DCUM are stuck in some bubble in the past where you still think you can get away w/ lying about israel being a basket of puppies. You're so pathetic that you continue to ignore every video or every piece of evidence of mass slaughter, unyielding brutality, mass rape from day one You still argue over if a dog can rape while ignoring that Jews said it's possible because the NAZIS did it to them. Meanwhile, outside your bubble and speaking of dogs, millions saw a video of an Israeli demon brutally beating the hell out of a Palestinian family's pet dog.

Stay here in your little propaganda bubble, because outside of it, you're a disgrace to humanity.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently we are all supposed to believe that Hamas didn’t act like every other group of violent men in history because Israel lies or whatever. I mean Israel may indeed lie but that still doesn’t mean I need to abandon all common sense and understanding of the history of the world.

Simple question: Why did Israel have to lie about 40 beheaded babies and mass rape if Hamas is violent enough to justify genocide?

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas exists because videos like the one below have existed for decades.

Who in the hell is a single one of you defenders of Israel's to even speak when Hamas could not exist if Israel hadn't been founded by terrorism and done every f***ing thing you accuse Hamas of doing, but FIRST? The only difference is, you got to lie about beheaded babies and cutting babies out of stomachs specifically because that is the racism you Zionists got away w/ pushing for DECADES and w/o pushback. You got to dehumanize Palestinians in the most disgusting ways and you got to lie w/ absolute impunity and accuse Palestinians of things without a shred of evidence. Meanwhile, you expect videos of every single barbaric act done to a Palestinian including those *long before Hamas existed* and I guess the raped Palestinians or the orphaned Palestinians must go to like a notary before you even consider it might be true and even then, you won't say sh*t. You'll either say nothing or do the tiresome "both sides" crap because you're depraved or just lazy. And then have the nerve to expect respect for your position?

The only thing that gives me great joy is knowing most of the disgusting psychos who lie to themselves, are over 40 and your views are toxic to those under that age who've seen the things you defend. You keep projecting your BS about "Hamas defenders." What you actually mean is: "You're supposed to agree w/ every lie Israel tells despite evidence showing all they do is lie, go along with reports based on recycled BULLSH*T and even if you do, we will never call out Israel's savagery."

Surprisingly, the best quote comes from Rick and Morty when it comes to responding to Zionists: Your boos mean nothing, because I see what makes you cheer.

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I wish I could hire you to debate absolutely corrupt scumbag losers like John Fetterman, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Bill Clinton and too many others to list right now. Would literally pay top dollar to see them stopped in their defense of genocide tracks, forced to STFU and choke on the propagandized lies they blather on about while the bombs they authorized are killing innocent men, women, and children.

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Anonymous wrote:Hardly a cultist, or in any way, shape or form a Hamas supporter, but the answer to your question should be pretty obvious: every other group of violent, raiding men was not facing an adversary that is possessed of LITERALLY an insurmountable military advantage.

The suggestion that these Hamas scumbags were not running and gunning, but instead taking their time and systematically raping people and engaging in acts that would cause them to remain in Israel for longer periods of time (and thus increase greatly their odds of being caught - and killed on the spot) … I mean, use your goddamned brain already. This was a get in, get out operation but you keep expecting us to believe that these POS terrorists were lollygagging instead of running and gunning? TFOH.

Rape is about power dynamics. Hamas has zero power in the shadow of the IDF. It’s the exact same reason why the IDF rapes and SAs detainees, and frankly, the exact same reason why the Israeli culture is so welcoming of child molesters and its rape culture.

That’s why - not because Hamas has more morality, but because they lacked the freedom of time on the clock to do what you keep accusing them of, what no credible evidence supports, and what has been debunked over and over again. If they had more time, would they have done so? Who knows. But they didn’t have time for anything beyond what would have been random and situational.

They took a lot of young women back to Gaza on motorcycles. Are you saying Hamas were gentleman kidnappers? They just locked the women in dark tunnels but didn't venture to rape them? Or are you saying Hamas was so bloodthirsty they were too busy killing to rape? You people are absolutely insane, no wonder employers fire you and colleges bar you from speaking.

Of course they weren’t gentlemen kidnappers. Very likely, they were doing the same thing done to Palestinian women and men detained by Israeli security forces. Israel knows exactly what Hamas may have done : the same things they have

Sure. But the pro-Hamas posters here are taking the position that Hamas did not systematically rape, tortured, and kill anyone. Plus we also have the it-would-be-hilarious-if-it-weren’t-so-grotesque poster who is claiming that Hamas didn’t have the time in their busy, busy killing schedule of 10/7 to also rape and torture the women and children.

The exact point is that both the sides of this conflict are amoral and brutal, but their supporters on whatever side can’t admit that, and lie about the brutality of what their side does. It’s ironic because their supporters do more to convince people of how evil their side is than the opposite.

We're not Pro-Hamas posters, you amateur. We're ppl actually educated on the history of all of this. You think kidnapping means RAPE? Oh, right, the goal posts always move when it's not Israel. Amazing how Israel can rape on camera, have a history of it and you still act like you can say the same about Hamas. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT HAMAS. You're childish in thinking that if we don't go along w/ that lie, it's a defense of what Hamas did.

Tell me, why did Israel stop allowing released hostages to give interviews? If you actually gave a damn, you'd watch all of the women who were interviewed after their release. The overwhelming majority said they were treated well and not one said they were raped. In fact, that one with inflated lips got raped after she was released by her fellow Israeli, but God forbid you ever stop defending Israel savagery and rape culture.

Wait - are you the lunatic who claimed the IDF actually trained DOGS to rape prisoners?? You know that is anatomically impossible, right? You and your constant stream of BS are sickening. Crawl back in your hole.
DP

If it's anatomically not possible then why do Holocaust and Pinochet's Dirty War survivors say it happened to them? Are they lying?

Exactly what sources are you using that make this claim? Because I've never, ever read anything of the sort.

You are not a serious person. Posters have repeatedly posted sources over multiple threads.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently we are all supposed to believe that Hamas didn’t act like every other group of violent men in history because Israel lies or whatever. I mean Israel may indeed lie but that still doesn’t mean I need to abandon all common sense and understanding of the history of the world.

Israel lies “or whatever”?

40 beheaded babies is a pretty huge and disgusting lie. They lost the global sympathy war right then and there. President Biden had to retract that statement which was a Netanyahu lie.

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Because they lie, some of the more unspeakable stories are unbelievable. They did this with their own hands: ruined their credibility.

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Anonymous wrote:Because they lie, some of the more unspeakable stories are unbelievable. They did this with their own hands: ruined their credibility.

Who are you talking about? Both Hamas and the Israeli Government lie constantly. Neither has any credibility.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the posts. I believe what is happening in Gaza is a genocide. I believe the IDF have committed horrific atrocities. I also believe Oct 7 was mass murder by Hamas. I’m pretty certain Hamas also has committed brutal crimes against prisoners. Why can’t both sides acknowledge that each are guilty of awful, awful things, including (sadly) rape?

Because every released hostage by Hamas has said they were treated well. Israel stopped letting hostages do interviews specifically because it was a bad look for Israel. Fact is that I can post countless videos of hostages' own words and then post how Palestinian hostages are treated by those savages for 80 years. Palestinians who were released had their families told they weren't allowed to celebrate. That's how disgusting israelis are. Even controlling a Palestinian's emotions when reunited w/ family.

This is everything pp around the world know about while pathetic, old a-holes on DCUM are stuck in some bubble in the past where you still think you can get away w/ lying about israel being a basket of puppies. You're so pathetic that you continue to ignore every video or every piece of evidence of mass slaughter, unyielding brutality, mass rape from day one You still argue over if a dog can rape while ignoring that Jews said it's possible because the NAZIS did it to them. Meanwhile, outside your bubble and speaking of dogs, millions saw a video of an Israeli demon brutally beating the hell out of a Palestinian family's pet dog.

Stay here in your little propaganda bubble, because outside of it, you're a disgrace to humanity.

Wow! This is an outright lie. You need to read the book, Hostage, by Eli Sharabi. There are tons of interviews still going on by released Israeli hostages and not one of them says they were treated well. Not one. If hostages were treated so well then why were many of them murdered in captivity? Are you familiar with Hirsch Goldberg Polin? He was skin and bones when he was found to have been executed in a tunnel with many shots to his head and his head in the lap of a fellow hostage Eden Yerushalmi. For example Shari Bibas and her 9 month old son Kfir and her 4 year old son Ariel were strangled to death by the peaceful Islamic Jihad in captivity. Most of the hostages were sexually assaulted in captivity. There is testimony from all the hostages who survived. Hostages speak to the public about their experiences all the time. Omer Shem Tov was held alone in the dark for 505 days. Are you living on planet Earth? My God! Where are you getting your information from? It is 100% false. It’s quite astounding, actually, the misinformation you are spreading. Who can take you seriously? There is documented evidence of the horrible conditions the hostages were kept under. When they were released and fattened up by Hamas they still looked sick and gaunt. You aren’t even worthy of a conversation the way you spread lies. You disgust me. Read the report that was posted in the first post and then come back and comment. You will learn that innocent civilians were shot in the face and the genitals. Haas and civilian Palestinians shot nails into a woman’s vagina. Go read it and see the sick sick things the Palestinians you are so dearly defending did.

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Anonymous wrote:Hardly a cultist, or in any way, shape or form a Hamas supporter, but the answer to your question should be pretty obvious: every other group of violent, raiding men was not facing an adversary that is possessed of LITERALLY an insurmountable military advantage.

The suggestion that these Hamas scumbags were not running and gunning, but instead taking their time and systematically raping people and engaging in acts that would cause them to remain in Israel for longer periods of time (and thus increase greatly their odds of being caught - and killed on the spot) … I mean, use your goddamned brain already. This was a get in, get out operation but you keep expecting us to believe that these POS terrorists were lollygagging instead of running and gunning? TFOH.

Rape is about power dynamics. Hamas has zero power in the shadow of the IDF. It’s the exact same reason why the IDF rapes and SAs detainees, and frankly, the exact same reason why the Israeli culture is so welcoming of child molesters and its rape culture.

That’s why - not because Hamas has more morality, but because they lacked the freedom of time on the clock to do what you keep accusing them of, what no credible evidence supports, and what has been debunked over and over again. If they had more time, would they have done so? Who knows. But they didn’t have time for anything beyond what would have been random and situational.

They took a lot of young women back to Gaza on motorcycles. Are you saying Hamas were gentleman kidnappers? They just locked the women in dark tunnels but didn't venture to rape them? Or are you saying Hamas was so bloodthirsty they were too busy killing to rape? You people are absolutely insane, no wonder employers fire you and colleges bar you from speaking.

Of course they weren’t gentlemen kidnappers. Very likely, they were doing the same thing done to Palestinian women and men detained by Israeli security forces. Israel knows exactly what Hamas may have done : the same things they have

Sure. But the pro-Hamas posters here are taking the position that Hamas did not systematically rape, tortured, and kill anyone. Plus we also have the it-would-be-hilarious-if-it-weren’t-so-grotesque poster who is claiming that Hamas didn’t have the time in their busy, busy killing schedule of 10/7 to also rape and torture the women and children.

The exact point is that both the sides of this conflict are amoral and brutal, but their supporters on whatever side can’t admit that, and lie about the brutality of what their side does. It’s ironic because their supporters do more to convince people of how evil their side is than the opposite.

We're not Pro-Hamas posters, you amateur. We're ppl actually educated on the history of all of this. You think kidnapping means RAPE? Oh, right, the goal posts always move when it's not Israel. Amazing how Israel can rape on camera, have a history of it and you still act like you can say the same about Hamas. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT HAMAS. You're childish in thinking that if we don't go along w/ that lie, it's a defense of what Hamas did.

Tell me, why did Israel stop allowing released hostages to give interviews? If you actually gave a damn, you'd watch all of the women who were interviewed after their release. The overwhelming majority said they were treated well and not one said they were raped. In fact, that one with inflated lips got raped after she was released by her fellow Israeli, but God forbid you ever stop defending Israel savagery and rape culture.

Wait - are you the lunatic who claimed the IDF actually trained DOGS to rape prisoners?? You know that is anatomically impossible, right? You and your constant stream of BS are sickening. Crawl back in your hole.
DP

If it's anatomically not possible then why do Holocaust and Pinochet's Dirty War survivors say it happened to them? Are they lying?

Exactly what sources are you using that make this claim? Because I've never, ever read anything of the sort.

You are not a serious person. Posters have repeatedly posted sources over multiple threads.

You have to stop with the “you are not a serious person” thing. It is a line from a television show and was interesting 5 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the posts. I believe what is happening in Gaza is a genocide. I believe the IDF have committed horrific atrocities. I also believe Oct 7 was mass murder by Hamas. I’m pretty certain Hamas also has committed brutal crimes against prisoners. Why can’t both sides acknowledge that each are guilty of awful, awful things, including (sadly) rape?

Because every released hostage by Hamas has said they were treated well. Israel stopped letting hostages do interviews specifically because it was a bad look for Israel. Fact is that I can post countless videos of hostages' own words and then post how Palestinian hostages are treated by those savages for 80 years. Palestinians who were released had their families told they weren't allowed to celebrate. That's how disgusting israelis are. Even controlling a Palestinian's emotions when reunited w/ family.

This is everything pp around the world know about while pathetic, old a-holes on DCUM are stuck in some bubble in the past where you still think you can get away w/ lying about israel being a basket of puppies. You're so pathetic that you continue to ignore every video or every piece of evidence of mass slaughter, unyielding brutality, mass rape from day one You still argue over if a dog can rape while ignoring that Jews said it's possible because the NAZIS did it to them. Meanwhile, outside your bubble and speaking of dogs, millions saw a video of an Israeli demon brutally beating the hell out of a Palestinian family's pet dog.

Stay here in your little propaganda bubble, because outside of it, you're a disgrace to humanity.

Dude. We can all see the videos of the hostages as they left captivity, and that’s when Hamas was presumably trying to make the hostages look the best they could. Those were in no way people who were “treated well” no matter what lies you spread. Come on.

You are an absolute propagandist nutcase, not to be taken seriously, except for the fact that you are so drenched in propaganda that you will make this grim situation so much worse.

I do not think this issue will be resolved in my lifetime, because both sides are inveterate liars. They cannot agree on the most basic of facts, and both sides routinely try to gaslight people who are trying to figure out a way forward. You are no better that the IDF with your lies and your manipulation.