Trump calls for arrest of Dem lawmakers who urged the military not to follow illegal orders

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He then also said to hang them.

Yeah, and…?

He doesn’t have the power or influence any more to elicit action. But one of his crazy MAGAs may do something on their own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm MAGA, and of course I tend to agree with Trump that their actual motive was to start an insurrection or coup. That said, I think it is plausible that they honestly believe their own strange assertions that Trump will send the military into the streets to harass soccer moms and put black people into concentration camps. Although I don't see any evidence that Trump wants to do these things, I've heard several democratic figures literally saying that Trump would send the military to round up black people and send them to camps. (This seems really expensive and unnecessary but whatever- it's their fantasy.) If you actually believe this kind of conspiracy stuff, it is rational to want to tell military members not to follow orders like that. And I agree, if Trump tries to send troops to round up the 50M black people in America, they should not follow that order. I just don't believe Trump will do that.

My friend’s black son was detained and questioned by ICE for three hours in DC. He was just walking home from working his shift at a museum. He was born in America to American citizens. He didn’t do anything wrong. He was “walking while Black”. So take your defense of this evil POS conman and shove it. It IS happening. Your orange toddler is a fascist and so are you of you support him.

[Anonymous]

DP, you may not believe it, but I have friends in Chicago and LA where something similar happened.

[Anonymous]

If literate and curious MAGA exist, here’s an article for you from a conservative leaning publication explaining the oaths . Stop pretending you’re in the military.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-americans-should-understand-about-the-military-disobeying-illegal-orders-two-oaths?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If literate and curious MAGA exist, here’s an article for you from a conservative leaning publication explaining the oaths . Stop pretending you’re in the military.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-americans-should-understand-about-the-military-disobeying-illegal-orders-two-oaths?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

The Bulwark was founded to provide analysis and reporting in defense of America’s liberal democracy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He then also said to hang them.

Yeah, and…?

He doesn’t have the power or influence any more to elicit action. But one of his crazy MAGAs may do something on their own.

To wit:

[Anonymous]

very fine people....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If literate and curious MAGA exist, here’s an article for you from a conservative leaning publication explaining the oaths . Stop pretending you’re in the military.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-americans-should-understand-about-the-military-disobeying-illegal-orders-two-oaths?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

The Bulwark was founded to provide analysis and reporting in defense of America’s liberal democracy.

The Bulwark was founded by multiple Republican commentators. Bill Kristol was a founding member.

[Anonymous]

Well let’s face it. If you are in the US military or intelligence agencies and Trump gives you the order to kill a 3 year old you better do it.

If you refuse the Trump administration will arrest and imprison you. This is if you are lucky. They could just execute you on the side of the road.

There is legal protection because all the DOD lawyers are MAGA loyalists- ie no one is going to stand by you. This is the way the Russians do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If literate and curious MAGA exist, here’s an article for you from a conservative leaning publication explaining the oaths . Stop pretending you’re in the military.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-americans-should-understand-about-the-military-disobeying-illegal-orders-two-oaths?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

The Bulwark was founded to provide analysis and reporting in defense of America’s liberal democracy.

Conservatives have existed in our liberal democracy forever. Bulwark was founded by true conservatives, not fascists, Chrisofascists, and reactionaries, which is what the current GOP are.

Liberal has several different meanings, despite the fact that MAGA wants everyone to believe it means radical hippies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If literate and curious MAGA exist, here’s an article for you from a conservative leaning publication explaining the oaths . Stop pretending you’re in the military.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-americans-should-understand-about-the-military-disobeying-illegal-orders-two-oaths?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

The Bulwark was founded to provide analysis and reporting in defense of America’s liberal democracy.

It was founded by conservatives who left the Republican Party when it became radically anti-American and wouldn’t impeach the traitor in chief.

That article was written by an Army three star general. He knows what he’s talking about.

There is nothing conservative about MAGA. At all. Real conservatives left the party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are really stupid statements. Like how are you supposed to know what an illegal order is? You should not be doing blanket things like that. You should be stating things like. If you have concerns about orders please seek legal counsel. It'd be like me saying hey. Be careful and do stuff but we're not sure it's legal but use your own judgment. Please come on now

YOU may not know what an illegal order is but the military are trained on this (and may be smarter than you.)

Dear God, I hope they are smarter than this poster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well let’s face it. If you are in the US military or intelligence agencies and Trump gives you the order to kill a 3 year old you better do it.

If you refuse the Trump administration will arrest and imprison you. This is if you are lucky. They could just execute you on the side of the road.

There is legal protection because all the DOD lawyers are MAGA loyalists- ie no one is going to stand by you. This is the way the Russians do it.

Quiet piggy, we're not Russians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If literate and curious MAGA exist, here’s an article for you from a conservative leaning publication explaining the oaths . Stop pretending you’re in the military.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-americans-should-understand-about-the-military-disobeying-illegal-orders-two-oaths?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

The Bulwark was founded to provide analysis and reporting in defense of America’s liberal democracy.

The Bulwark also has a lot of non-MAGA Republicans contributing to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well let’s face it. If you are in the US military or intelligence agencies and Trump gives you the order to kill a 3 year old you better do it.

If you refuse the Trump administration will arrest and imprison you. This is if you are lucky. They could just execute you on the side of the road.

There is legal protection because all the DOD lawyers are MAGA loyalists- ie no one is going to stand by you. This is the way the Russians do it.

The SS was "only following orders" in Nazi Germany too. Beria's KGB was "only following orders" when they disappeared/assasinated thousands of people.

At some point you need to stop and ask about ethics, legality and the Constitution before you hold that gun to the head of a 3-year old and ask yourself if you have any morality left. This "you'd better follow orders because he''s the President" is bullshit. You DO NOT swear loyalty to the President when you join the military. Your loyalty is to the Constitution, and your code of laws is the UCMJ.