St. Anslems lawsuit alleges racism and harassment

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Anonymous wrote:My heart goes out to all involved: the student, the school, the community of students, parents, and teachers and administrators who devote themselves to giving their all to their small humble, bright, kind community of boys. And I agree, the plaintiff child--he needs to be allowed to move on with his life and hopefully thrive in another place. Why, almost three years later, try to destroy a school that has overwhelmingly been good for so many underprivileged boys . . . and possibly damage irreparably the student's own emotional well-being in the process?

Not an interested party, but wow. Imagine if what had happened was a rape and juxtapose what you just said.

For the good of the school, the child and their parents should just shut up and go away? Wow. This says so much about the moral uprightness (or is it turpitude?) of the St. Anselm’s community.

Jane Doe again? If I had a child who had been raped or had experienced any other type of trauma at age 11 or 12 that the plaintiffs allege, would I drag him or her through a multi-year trial at age 13 or 14 such that their entire adolescence will forever be defined by that experience? No way. And especially not just to line my pockets. So wow to you too. I would prioritize my child's wellbeing over any sense of greed and vengeance. You can go line your pockets.

Not Jane Doe. Never considered sending my kids to St. Anselm’s; it’s way too far a commute.

However, I can see all kinds of reasons why a parent might fight back against a school that treated their child badly. The child may actually want to fight back. Perhaps they would be more scarred by being silenced. It seems very convenient of you to assume that a trial would somehow define their adolescence in a traumatizing way. In fact it could be empowering to be able to say what happened to them and hold the people who enabled it accountable.

People don’t always sue for money alone. The fact that you attribute the case to money and vengeance says so much about your limited perspective.

And you have clearly never been through litigation as a child. You also assume that the process of litigation will not bring to light in discovery things that would affirm that the child--or even the parent upon whom this child relies--had extreme behavioral, emotional, and/or academic issues that reliving those things would likely make his condition worse. Your attempts to insult that perspective reflects that it's your perspective that is limited.

As someone who was racially taunted and mistreated as a child and who also was the subject of a legal custody battle, I can attest that litigation would be traumatizing to a child. And I thankfully do not suffer from autism, but doing that to an autistic child seems down right cruel.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we hear from any black/brown families that are currently at the Abbey please? What has been your experience? I do wonder if a class with only two black boys in it is a class group that is comfortable with interacting with black boys and families.

normal people don't come here, it's all just trolls.

When there are only 2 black kids per grade, and when the St Anselms community closes ranks as swiftly as they've done on this thread, it's not surprising that folks are unwilling to speak up.

Where did you get that false statistic from? Also, you have forgotten the overall diversity at the school, i.e., every other group. Also, if fewer than 5% of Catholics in America are black, then black kids are overrepresented at this school if the 6th grade only has about 20-25 people. I'm also glad to see that you have the intellect and charity to immediately say that a school you know very little about (only 1 false statistic and the name) must be racist. Please, go think about your past actions.

40% of the school is non catholic and it used to be much higher.

And the school is in Washington DC, with a 40% Black population and on the edge of PG Country, which is 60% Black. Saying “SAAS can’t be racist because it has higher than the national % of Blacks or Black Catholics” is pathetic gaslighting.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we hear from any black/brown families that are currently at the Abbey please? What has been your experience? I do wonder if a class with only two black boys in it is a class group that is comfortable with interacting with black boys and families.

normal people don't come here, it's all just trolls.

When there are only 2 black kids per grade, and when the St Anselms community closes ranks as swiftly as they've done on this thread, it's not surprising that folks are unwilling to speak up.

Where did you get that false statistic from? Also, you have forgotten the overall diversity at the school, i.e., every other group. Also, if fewer than 5% of Catholics in America are black, then black kids are overrepresented at this school if the 6th grade only has about 20-25 people. I'm also glad to see that you have the intellect and charity to immediately say that a school you know very little about (only 1 false statistic and the name) must be racist. Please, go think about your past actions.

40% of the school is non catholic and it used to be much higher.

And the school is in Washington DC, with a 40% Black population and on the edge of PG Country, which is 60% Black. Saying “SAAS can’t be racist because it has higher than the national % of Blacks or Black Catholics” is pathetic gaslighting.

You and a lot of other people on this forum need to take a breath and calm down, especially if you are not affiliated with the school in any way. I don't think anyone claimed what you allege they did, and more importantly, from the eloquence of your words and your supreme lack of general understanding, I am guessing you have no affiliation with the school which means you just want to call people racist because you do not know/like them. That is either detraction or simple odium. Please, write considerately.

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Tell me more about my supreme lack of general understanding. And speak to me simply, as if i were a student unqualified for the rigor of SAAS.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we hear from any black/brown families that are currently at the Abbey please? What has been your experience? I do wonder if a class with only two black boys in it is a class group that is comfortable with interacting with black boys and families.

normal people don't come here, it's all just trolls.

When there are only 2 black kids per grade, and when the St Anselms community closes ranks as swiftly as they've done on this thread, it's not surprising that folks are unwilling to speak up.

Where did you get that false statistic from? Also, you have forgotten the overall diversity at the school, i.e., every other group. Also, if fewer than 5% of Catholics in America are black, then black kids are overrepresented at this school if the 6th grade only has about 20-25 people. I'm also glad to see that you have the intellect and charity to immediately say that a school you know very little about (only 1 false statistic and the name) must be racist. Please, go think about your past actions.

40% of the school is non catholic and it used to be much higher.

And the school is in Washington DC, with a 40% Black population and on the edge of PG Country, which is 60% Black. Saying “SAAS can’t be racist because it has higher than the national % of Blacks or Black Catholics” is pathetic gaslighting.

You and a lot of other people on this forum need to take a breath and calm down, especially if you are not affiliated with the school in any way. I don't think anyone claimed what you allege they did, and more importantly, from the eloquence of your words and your supreme lack of general understanding, I am guessing you have no affiliation with the school which means you just want to call people racist because you do not know/like them. That is either detraction or simple odium. Please, write considerately.

What a condescending response to a reasonable point (different new poster.).

That said, our neighbor who is black attended and has nothing but good things to say about SAA. He's a very kind young man who has had major mental health challenges (which is to say he was probably not an easy kid), and they educated him very well.

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Anonymous wrote:Tell me more about my supreme lack of general understanding. And speak to me simply, as if i were a student unqualified for the rigor of SAAS.

No % of black people at institution means that someone is or isn't racist neither in a court of law nor ethically. Nor is it logical to assume because one person made a suit a whole institution is "racist". Tell that to all of the people the school has served over the years.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we hear from any black/brown families that are currently at the Abbey please? What has been your experience? I do wonder if a class with only two black boys in it is a class group that is comfortable with interacting with black boys and families.

normal people don't come here, it's all just trolls.

When there are only 2 black kids per grade, and when the St Anselms community closes ranks as swiftly as they've done on this thread, it's not surprising that folks are unwilling to speak up.

Where did you get that false statistic from? Also, you have forgotten the overall diversity at the school, i.e., every other group. Also, if fewer than 5% of Catholics in America are black, then black kids are overrepresented at this school if the 6th grade only has about 20-25 people. I'm also glad to see that you have the intellect and charity to immediately say that a school you know very little about (only 1 false statistic and the name) must be racist. Please, go think about your past actions.

40% of the school is non catholic and it used to be much higher.

And the school is in Washington DC, with a 40% Black population and on the edge of PG Country, which is 60% Black. Saying “SAAS can’t be racist because it has higher than the national % of Blacks or Black Catholics” is pathetic gaslighting.

You and a lot of other people on this forum need to take a breath and calm down, especially if you are not affiliated with the school in any way. I don't think anyone claimed what you allege they did, and more importantly, from the eloquence of your words and your supreme lack of general understanding, I am guessing you have no affiliation with the school which means you just want to call people racist because you do not know/like them. That is either detraction or simple odium. Please, write considerately.

What a condescending response to a reasonable point (different new poster.).

That said, our neighbor who is black attended and has nothing but good things to say about SAA. He's a very kind young man who has had major mental health challenges (which is to say he was probably not an easy kid), and they educated him very well.

Different poster but I don't think it's unwarranted that that person was called out for misusing the term "gaslighting" and mischaracterizing a previous poster with that quotation.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we hear from any black/brown families that are currently at the Abbey please? What has been your experience? I do wonder if a class with only two black boys in it is a class group that is comfortable with interacting with black boys and families.

normal people don't come here, it's all just trolls.

When there are only 2 black kids per grade, and when the St Anselms community closes ranks as swiftly as they've done on this thread, it's not surprising that folks are unwilling to speak up.

Where did you get that false statistic from? Also, you have forgotten the overall diversity at the school, i.e., every other group. Also, if fewer than 5% of Catholics in America are black, then black kids are overrepresented at this school if the 6th grade only has about 20-25 people. I'm also glad to see that you have the intellect and charity to immediately say that a school you know very little about (only 1 false statistic and the name) must be racist. Please, go think about your past actions.

40% of the school is non catholic and it used to be much higher.

Why is it condescending to caution people to be kind and not call people racist left and right? I feel like that word has been thrown around a lot on here and probably a lot in DC for other issues as well.

And the school is in Washington DC, with a 40% Black population and on the edge of PG Country, which is 60% Black. Saying “SAAS can’t be racist because it has higher than the national % of Blacks or Black Catholics” is pathetic gaslighting.

You and a lot of other people on this forum need to take a breath and calm down, especially if you are not affiliated with the school in any way. I don't think anyone claimed what you allege they did, and more importantly, from the eloquence of your words and your supreme lack of general understanding, I am guessing you have no affiliation with the school which means you just want to call people racist because you do not know/like them. That is either detraction or simple odium. Please, write considerately.

What a condescending response to a reasonable point (different new poster.).

That said, our neighbor who is black attended and has nothing but good things to say about SAA. He's a very kind young man who has had major mental health challenges (which is to say he was probably not an easy kid), and they educated him very well.

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All of the allegations could be true but that doesn’t mean much in the main beyond this case. The school’s reputation is far too solid. Settle and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:All of the allegations could be true but that doesn’t mean much in the main beyond this case. The school’s reputation is far too solid. Settle and move on.

I doubt the school has the money to settle, though. They really make the crux of their work charity: almost all money goes to the kids either through financial aid or facilities.

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This makes me think of the unhinged responses one poster had every time SAAS came up on this board. Wonder if it was the plaintiff.

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DS chose a different school but we know too many families very happy with their experience at SAAS to let this impact our perception of the school.

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Yes, the rigorous demands that most children couldn’t manage leading to Fordham and St. Bonaventure. Truly special.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the rigorous demands that most children couldn’t manage leading to Fordham and St. Bonaventure. Truly special.

https://www.saintanselms.org/academics/college-counseling/class-profile-and-college-acceptances

Pretty impressive list.

N.B. whatever st bonaventure is, isn’t on the list.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the rigorous demands that most children couldn’t manage leading to Fordham and St. Bonaventure. Truly special.

What is wrong with you! For underprivileged and/or first time college students, full rides at schools like these make all the difference in their futures. While many are offered admission in Top 20 and Ivies, they have a more holistic approach in deciding where to go. Your ridiculing shows how small you are. So glad you are clearly not part of the St. Anselm’s community. Talk about a bully.