would you "let" your 18 year old go on Ozempic?

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Anonymous wrote:It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2

You know that being morbidly obese puts you at risk of all kinds of cancers and heart disease right??????? GFC

Yes we know that’s the obligatory retort to every study that says these drugs are dangerous

There arent' any studies that say 'these drugs are dangerous'. BTW these drugs have been in use for nearly 2 decades. But there are many many studies that show that obesity puts you at risk of many cancers, heart disease and other comorbidities that kill often.

But op’s dd isn’t obese.

PP quoted here. I agree and actually posted that earlier in the thread. I was responding to the poster who was making false danger claims.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would let her. Being overweight is an incredible burden and can impact her marriage prospects considerably.

Her bmi is normal. She isn’t overweight

BMI is 25 and change.
5'4" and high 140s weight.

I’m that height and weight and a size 2-4. I workout, am very athletic and been the same size/weight since my 20s. I’m 54 now. People place me at 120. It’s not the weight- but the composition. When I got down to 135 once people literally told me I looked anorexic, too skinny. Big boned

Weight and size are so weird. I’m 5’5” and weigh 125 and take a 6 in many brands of pants. Sometimes need a medium in tops instead of a small. I haven’t been a size 2 since I was 118 or less.

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I would not only because it will likely be a lifelong drug and she is so young. Let her learn to like herself. She is a healthy weight.

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Anonymous wrote:It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2

You know that being morbidly obese puts you at risk of all kinds of cancers and heart disease right??????? GFC

Yes we know that’s the obligatory retort to every study that says these drugs are dangerous

There arent' any studies that say 'these drugs are dangerous'. BTW these drugs have been in use for nearly 2 decades. But there are many many studies that show that obesity puts you at risk of many cancers, heart disease and other comorbidities that kill often.

But op’s dd isn’t obese.

DP. How is she not obese? She is my height and size 8-10. I am 53 and size 0 or 2 at best, and I have extra weight on my tummy and legs. Size 8-10 is obese, not morbidly obese, but I think people do not realize what the threshold for being obese is.

Tell me you have no @$$ without telling me you have no @$$. Guaranteed you have zero muscle mass. This is why you are flabby but size 2.

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Anonymous wrote:It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2

You know that being morbidly obese puts you at risk of all kinds of cancers and heart disease right??????? GFC

Yes we know that’s the obligatory retort to every study that says these drugs are dangerous

There arent' any studies that say 'these drugs are dangerous'. BTW these drugs have been in use for nearly 2 decades. But there are many many studies that show that obesity puts you at risk of many cancers, heart disease and other comorbidities that kill often.

But op’s dd isn’t obese.

DP. How is she not obese? She is my height and size 8-10. I am 53 and size 0 or 2 at best, and I have extra weight on my tummy and legs. Size 8-10 is obese, not morbidly obese, but I think people do not realize what the threshold for being obese is.

Seek professional guidance, you absolute loon.

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Seek help OP

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I would not opine one way or another. I would see my role as helping her understand the trade offs. Try to gather info for her in as unbiased a manner as possible and tell her you don't want to influence her decision because she will be the one to live with the consequences but here are some things to consider in both directions.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone clarify this for me: how can she get it prescribed by a legit doctor if she is not obese? I thought it was only advised for obese people?

Many doctors will give it just about anyone who asks. If you want it and we're told no, go doctor shopping and it will take long to find one who will say yes.

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OP here.
Reporting back. My daughter (who is 18) started on Ozempic and in 6 weeks she's lost about 18 pounds.
Her weight has dropped from 155 to 138. Her clothing size from a 10 to a 6. (She's 5'4")

She looks and feels fantastic. She's now going on a maintenance phase and is being followed by her pediatrician.

This is a super active teen who was eating an incredibly clean diet and consistently gaining weight from ages 15-18. She literally dropped 5 pounds in the first week. No real diet changes as she was eating clean to begin with.

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Maintenance phase? What is that?

Good luck OP. You just started your daughter on a path of lifelong medication.

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Anonymous wrote:Maintenance phase? What is that?

Good luck OP. You just started your daughter on a path of lifelong medication.

NP- Maintenance phase just means a lower dose you stay on. The medication, aside from cost, is hardly some big hardship. It's a once a week (some people do it less often even) injection that takes 30 seconds. The health benefits and general societal benefits far outweigh the inconvenience.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would let her. Being overweight is an incredible burden and can impact her marriage prospects considerably.

Her bmi is normal. She isn’t overweight

8/10 is pretty big these days. It’s more like an old school 14. Not sure I’d let her do it though. Does she have weight to lose or is she big boned?

"these days"? we're not comparing to the 50s here. My 5'6" DD is also an 8 and she looks great. She is also not in the overweight BMI category. I have size 8 dresses in my closet that are too big for her.... so again, no a 8/10 is not equivalent to a 14 unless you're comparing to the 50s and 60s.

NP here. Sizing has changed dramatically over the past 20 years. I am 5'10" and 130 pounds and have been since I graduated from college in the 90s. 25 years ago, I wore a size 8/10. Today, I wear a size 4. My body has not changed (well, that much), but the sizing definitely has.

Yes, the sizing is different now. A 10 in 2024 would be a 14 in 2001. Not obese, but definitely chubby.

This completely depends on height. A 5’2 person who is a size 10 looks very different than a 5’10 person who is a size 10.

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Anonymous wrote:And expense is another issue. No insurance will cover this so she is looking at an extra 500-1200 a month!

I don’t understand how an 18 yo has that money and why you would sign her up for this lifetime expense.

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Anonymous wrote:And expense is another issue. No insurance will cover this so she is looking at an extra 500-1200 a month!

I don’t understand how an 18 yo has that money and why you would sign her up for this lifetime expense.

Have your teenagers not had summer jobs? My kids have made $3-5K/summer beginning at age 15. DC minimum wage is $17.50/hour.

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Anonymous wrote:And expense is another issue. No insurance will cover this so she is looking at an extra 500-1200 a month!

I don’t understand how an 18 yo has that money and why you would sign her up for this lifetime expense.

The compound is much cheaper, like $200/mo. And the cost is going to go down eventually, it already is.