Pros and cons of all boys catholic schools

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think there’s a difference between all boys schools with both men and women teaching versus just men?

I don't want to speak for all all boys schools but some can't have attractive female teachers for obvious reasons. Just keeping it real.

Hah!

Not sure its funny. Just kind of speaks to the environment.

This makes sense - but an attractive female teacher will be just as distracting to the males at a coed school.

well no. Because they are more adapted to being around girls/women.

So nothing bad happens to women in a co-ed school because the men are so well adapted. Fascinating.

This poster definitely thinks he's talking to just one other commenter here. Makes for a funny (and somewhat sad) read . . .

Your participation is not required. It’s not a very interesting discussion just hypotheticals and guesses.

No. They can speak. This is a discussion forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think there’s a difference between all boys schools with both men and women teaching versus just men?

I don't want to speak for all all boys schools but some can't have attractive female teachers for obvious reasons. Just keeping it real.

Hah!

Not sure its funny. Just kind of speaks to the environment.

This makes sense - but an attractive female teacher will be just as distracting to the males at a coed school.

well no. Because they are more adapted to being around girls/women.

So nothing bad happens to women in a co-ed school because the men are so well adapted. Fascinating.

This poster definitely thinks he's talking to just one other commenter here. Makes for a funny (and somewhat sad) read . . .

Your participation is not required. It’s not a very interesting discussion just hypotheticals and guesses.

No. They can speak. This is a discussion forum.

So can I. Even if you don’t like it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think there’s a difference between all boys schools with both men and women teaching versus just men?

I don't want to speak for all all boys schools but some can't have attractive female teachers for obvious reasons. Just keeping it real.

Hah!

Not sure its funny. Just kind of speaks to the environment.

This makes sense - but an attractive female teacher will be just as distracting to the males at a coed school.

well no. Because they are more adapted to being around girls/women.

So nothing bad happens to women in a co-ed school because the men are so well adapted. Fascinating.

This poster definitely thinks he's talking to just one other commenter here. Makes for a funny (and somewhat sad) read . . .

Your participation is not required. It’s not a very interesting discussion just hypotheticals and guesses.

If you have any real statistics to present, by all means. Given that you clearly work for one of these schools, you must have them at your fingertips!

There is no evidence one way or the other. If there was the haters would have provided it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think there’s a difference between all boys schools with both men and women teaching versus just men?

I don't want to speak for all all boys schools but some can't have attractive female teachers for obvious reasons. Just keeping it real.

Hah!

Not sure its funny. Just kind of speaks to the environment.

This makes sense - but an attractive female teacher will be just as distracting to the males at a coed school.

well no. Because they are more adapted to being around girls/women.

“Hot teacher” standing in front of the class is a whole different experience. The presence of your female classmates means nothing against that power.

[Anonymous]

Usually pros and cons need to come from someone with actual experience. As a prospective parent, I would want to hear from people who have sons in such a school, recently graduated sons, or fathers, brothers, grandparents with relevant experience. Why would someone with no experience think they have anything to add? All the "cons" here are coming from outsiders which carry no weight. You don't like it because there are no girls there. Ok. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:In laws all went to single-sex Catholic high schools. I would say the ranking from least well adjusted to more normal is:

-boys without sisters
-girls without brothers
-girls with brothers / boys with sisters

The boys from all-boy families who went to all-boys schools are clueless about women.

This resonates with me. My brother has 2 boys, and they go to an all-boys Catholic HS, and both play baseball. He/they would say it is a very positive experience. They love the community and camaraderie, and I can see it through the photos he shares, social media, etc. But, the boys are also in the 'manosphere' culture, which they are happy with, but wouldn't be a fit for our family.

They may love it, but that doesnt mean they are better or better off there. Have them check in in 20 years and see what they would say.

Given the long standing commitment and support of our Jesuit school from alumni, I think the numbers speak for themselves.

Once upon a time, elite education was largely same-sex, on both sides of the gender divide. That is no longer the case. People have been voting with their feet for quite some time now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Usually pros and cons need to come from someone with actual experience. As a prospective parent, I would want to hear from people who have sons in such a school, recently graduated sons, or fathers, brothers, grandparents with relevant experience. Why would someone with no experience think they have anything to add? All the "cons" here are coming from outsiders which carry no weight. You don't like it because there are no girls there. Ok. Thanks.

Guessing this is still the faculty member. I think the jig is up.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually pros and cons need to come from someone with actual experience. As a prospective parent, I would want to hear from people who have sons in such a school, recently graduated sons, or fathers, brothers, grandparents with relevant experience. Why would someone with no experience think they have anything to add? All the "cons" here are coming from outsiders which carry no weight. You don't like it because there are no girls there. Ok. Thanks.

Guessing this is still the faculty member. I think the jig is up.

Note that the posting ended around the end of the school day. Definitely on faculty or in the administration there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Usually pros and cons need to come from someone with actual experience. As a prospective parent, I would want to hear from people who have sons in such a school, recently graduated sons, or fathers, brothers, grandparents with relevant experience. Why would someone with no experience think they have anything to add? All the "cons" here are coming from outsiders which carry no weight. You don't like it because there are no girls there. Ok. Thanks.

Guessing this is still the faculty member. I think the jig is up.

The faculty member? lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Usually pros and cons need to come from someone with actual experience. As a prospective parent, I would want to hear from people who have sons in such a school, recently graduated sons, or fathers, brothers, grandparents with relevant experience. Why would someone with no experience think they have anything to add? All the "cons" here are coming from outsiders which carry no weight. You don't like it because there are no girls there. Ok. Thanks.

My perspective, as a parent with one at Gonzaga and one GZ grad in college, is that I’m a convert. I was wary of toxic masculinity. But my sons thrived, found great friends, loved their male and female teachers, and grew in their faith. The Jesuit values resonated with our whole family and have really affected us all. They dated senior year (after barely talking to girls before). The college son has had no issues in college with any adjustment. It was a total non issue.

My bottom line is that it’s 4 years. Not long, compared to all 17 (or more) years of education. In the summer they worked with girls. They have female cousins and neighbors. There is zero downside and tons of upside.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Usually pros and cons need to come from someone with actual experience. As a prospective parent, I would want to hear from people who have sons in such a school, recently graduated sons, or fathers, brothers, grandparents with relevant experience. Why would someone with no experience think they have anything to add? All the "cons" here are coming from outsiders which carry no weight. You don't like it because there are no girls there. Ok. Thanks.

My perspective, as a parent with one at Gonzaga and one GZ grad in college, is that I’m a convert. I was wary of toxic masculinity. But my sons thrived, found great friends, loved their male and female teachers, and grew in their faith. The Jesuit values resonated with our whole family and have really affected us all. They dated senior year (after barely talking to girls before). The college son has had no issues in college with any adjustment. It was a total non issue.

My bottom line is that it’s 4 years. Not long, compared to all 17 (or more) years of education. In the summer they worked with girls. They have female cousins and neighbors. There is zero downside and tons of upside.

This sounds like a sales pitch. Why do you think they wouldn't have like a better school that was/is coed?

[Anonymous]

As a rule of thumb, segregation of any kind is rarely a good idea, no matter segregation of race, gender, religion, financial tier, language or culture etc., it creates otherness and makes it difficult to blend later on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if a school is all boys, but what I don’t like is when they teach their students that schools which accept girls are lesser-than. Some all boys schools are humble and focused on their mission. Others indoctrinate students from day one to think that they are superior because they do not allow girls. The toxic masculinity shows!

What all-boys teach that coed schools are lesser-than? Most all-boys school students have been in coed schools before and will almost all attend coed colleges or universities. And plenty of boys in coed settings drink from the fountain of toxic masculinity with the added “convenience” of girls on which to dump their toxicity.

[Anonymous]

Two sons in all-boys Catholic schools- one graduated and one still attending.

Wonderful experience for both of them. Went to public elementary/middle and the oldest went to co-ed college. No problems adjusting.

I know the question was about boys schools. Will give some perspective about all-girls for my daughters. They could not have had a better experience and went to T10 co-ed colleges.


There is data supporting single sex for girls. Both have STEM degrees and the 4 years of high school allowed them to develop confidence and find their voice, which I do not think would have happened in a co-ed environment for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two sons in all-boys Catholic schools- one graduated and one still attending.

Wonderful experience for both of them. Went to public elementary/middle and the oldest went to co-ed college. No problems adjusting.

I know the question was about boys schools. Will give some perspective about all-girls for my daughters. They could not have had a better experience and went to T10 co-ed colleges.


There is data supporting single sex for girls. Both have STEM degrees and the 4 years of high school allowed them to develop confidence and find their voice, which I do not think would have happened in a co-ed environment for them.

Why do you think that wouldn't have happened in one of the best high schools in the country, which are coed?