Harvard of South - Emory, Duke, Rice or Vanderbilt?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have encountered many people claiming that Emory, Duke, Vanderbilt or Rice owns the title of Harvard of South in different occasions. In your opinion, especially for those from the South, which school is HOS?


There is no such thing as Harvard of south or Stanford of East. All of these school are superb and doesn't need to mimic anyone. Harvard is Harvard because of its endowment, alumni and marketing, move them to south, lower their endowment $ and enrollment numbers and stop marketing then we'll see how they stack against Vanderbilt or Rice.


If you moved them to the South, say Alabama or Mississippi, they would lose their best professors, they wouldn’t get prestigious visiting professors. They wouldn’t get the top students. It’s not possible. It is a world class university.

Think about the Florida public universities and their football obsessed student body. Move them to Vermont and applications would be down 90%. Because they are who they are right where they are.



Eh. Duke is in a redneck state. So is Rice. And you really can't get any more redneck than Tennessee, home of Vanderbilt. They all seem to be doing just fine attracting top professors and students. Part of their appeal is, in fact, that they are not located in gloomy, dour New England. Many find a blue city in the red South much more appealing than Providence, New Haven, Ithaca, or Hanover.

I'm also pretty confident that the University of Florida, UNC Chapel Hill, and UVA are more desirable destinations for faculty and gifted students than UMass, UConn, UNH, URI, and Vermont. Regional biases seem very antiquated these days.
Anonymous
DeSantis made Florida schools less desirable for faculty.
Vandy is a self impressed party school with academic pretensions.
Duke was the dream school of all my Florida high school Student Council presidents, class officers, etc
Emory was a sweet school but sororities very important.
I went Nawth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have encountered many people claiming that Emory, Duke, Vanderbilt or Rice owns the title of Harvard of South in different occasions. In your opinion, especially for those from the South, which school is HOS?


There is no such thing as Harvard of south or Stanford of East. All of these school are superb and doesn't need to mimic anyone. Harvard is Harvard because of its endowment, alumni and marketing, move them to south, lower their endowment $ and enrollment numbers and stop marketing then we'll see how they stack against Vanderbilt or Rice.


If you moved them to the South, say Alabama or Mississippi, they would lose their best professors, they wouldn’t get prestigious visiting professors. They wouldn’t get the top students. It’s not possible. It is a world class university.

Think about the Florida public universities and their football obsessed student body. Move them to Vermont and applications would be down 90%. Because they are who they are right where they are.



Eh. Duke is in a redneck state. So is Rice. And you really can't get any more redneck than Tennessee, home of Vanderbilt. They all seem to be doing just fine attracting top professors and students. Part of their appeal is, in fact, that they are not located in gloomy, dour New England. Many find a blue city in the red South much more appealing than Providence, New Haven, Ithaca, or Hanover.

I'm also pretty confident that the University of Florida, UNC Chapel Hill, and UVA are more desirable destinations for faculty and gifted students than UMass, UConn, UNH, URI, and Vermont. Regional biases seem very antiquated these days.


Not anymore, thanks to Desantis.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:UVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks, troll! Not a UVA booster.


UVA is the Ohio state of the South
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks, troll! Not a UVA booster.


UVA is the Ohio state of the South


and William and Mary is the Miami of Ohio of the south.
Anonymous
If there’s any answer it’s definitely Duke, but realistically Duke is very happy being in its own lane as an academic/sports dual powerhouse, which isn’t possible in the Ivy League.
Anonymous
Pathetic poat
Anonymous
Duke or Vanderbilt
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Duke may be the closest. But really, it is not that close.


I'm not saying you're wrong because this is my perception as well but...how do you actually know this? Are you just basing this on rankings?


Harvard does better than Duke in pretty much everything (other than sports / basketball). Its graduates do better in pay in all areas that WSJ reported last year. It has twice as many graduate programs ranked in the top 10 and the average rank is much higher. Duke, although a relatively wealth school, has an endowment per student about the same as Washington and Lee. Harvard's is much, much higher. There is no comparison for notable alumni and faculty. On a per capita basis, Harvard is multiples higher on Rhodes, Fulbrights, and other prestigious awards. There is no comparison for history and historical significance. Duke is really just 100 years old.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Duke may be the closest. But really, it is not that close.


I'm not saying you're wrong because this is my perception as well but...how do you actually know this? Are you just basing this on rankings?


Harvard does better than Duke in pretty much everything (other than sports / basketball). Its graduates do better in pay in all areas that WSJ reported last year. It has twice as many graduate programs ranked in the top 10 and the average rank is much higher. Duke, although a relatively wealth school, has an endowment per student about the same as Washington and Lee. Harvard's is much, much higher. There is no comparison for notable alumni and faculty. On a per capita basis, Harvard is multiples higher on Rhodes, Fulbrights, and other prestigious awards. There is no comparison for history and historical significance. Duke is really just 100 years old.


Harvard is at or near the top for any rating of the best universities in the world. Duke is not and never will be.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If there’s any answer it’s definitely Duke, but realistically Duke is very happy being in its own lane as an academic/sports dual powerhouse, which isn’t possible in the Ivy League.



Duke isn’t as preferred as you think:

https://www.crimsoneducation.org/us/blog/cross-yield-rankings/
Anonymous
Duke is a better resarch institution, but Vandy lauded in the South with the moneyed set.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:people on West Coast don't think very highly of Rice, Emory, or Vanderbilt.


Rice and Emory are not well known in this country never mind the rest of the world. Everyone knows Harvard. Until they can say that they are no Harvard
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:None? They don’t compare- at all


+1

You need to conduct proper research!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Pathetic poat


You definitely had a pathetic post.
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