Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else wondering if these essay questions will invite more lying or gaming of the system? Fabricating an essay seems like something that will be attempted.

Rich people have always been lying and fabricating ECs for eons. Now others will catch on and do the same. That's really what's pissing them off and they are preaching BS like honesty and morality.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how swiftly any cares about equity went out the window after SCOTUS struck down affirmative action, thereby boosting chances of admission for whites. I see the glee and excuses and it's shocking.

It only boosted chances for Asians. Which is the real reason white patents are so mad.

Nice try, troll

Yup. That is some kind of freaky change up. Sure, blame the people advocating for equity, not the ones trying to exclude URMs to hoard resources. My white kid benefits from this decision, but I am opposed because it is not right and perpetuates racism in the guise of not considering race.

Your white kid does not benefit from the decision. At scale this is essentially a battle of whites vs Asians, not a battle over the still relatively small set of AA set asides. This decision hurts your kid.

The institutional systems in America benefits whites. Unless legacy admissions stop at highly selective colleges, UMC and rich whites will benefit. That's what Ed Blum and SFFA wanted all along. Asians will continue to be overrepresented, but not at the levels some think. 30-33% or so.

It is clear from the NYT article today that "the institutional systems" benefit people in the top 1%. The whites who are in the bottom 99% do not benefit. And the number of whites who are in the top 1% is very small indeed, so just quit crying about "rich white privilege" already.

With your drivel, you failed to mention that whites constitute the vast majority of the top 1%. You also responded to a post that states that...rich whites will benefit.

And yes:

The institutional systems in America do benefit whites.

So you think only white people are rich? That’s pretty racist. South Asians are richer than whites.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how swiftly any cares about equity went out the window after SCOTUS struck down affirmative action, thereby boosting chances of admission for whites. I see the glee and excuses and it's shocking.

It only boosted chances for Asians. Which is the real reason white patents are so mad.

Nice try, troll

Yup. That is some kind of freaky change up. Sure, blame the people advocating for equity, not the ones trying to exclude URMs to hoard resources. My white kid benefits from this decision, but I am opposed because it is not right and perpetuates racism in the guise of not considering race.

Your white kid does not benefit from the decision. At scale this is essentially a battle of whites vs Asians, not a battle over the still relatively small set of AA set asides. This decision hurts your kid.

Don't weigh in without the facts. (Or at least have a little humility rather than hubris). It likely does benefit my kid because they attend a competitive but largely URM public school.

[Anonymous]

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I’d like my kids to go to a school that values diversity. Better for their personal growth, and also for things that go beyond them - like representation and diversity in exchange of ideas. What makes me squeamish is these sorts of essays that put an outsized value on features about a student that the student can’t change, and make some of these characteristics - that can’t be changed - appear to be more highly valued than others. The result is pressure to produce essays featuring these characteristics (many of which may not feel sincere and will be performative) at the expense of potentially much more interesting stories and thoughts about big ideas and interests.

Agreed.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how swiftly any cares about equity went out the window after SCOTUS struck down affirmative action, thereby boosting chances of admission for whites. I see the glee and excuses and it's shocking.

It only boosted chances for Asians. Which is the real reason white patents are so mad.

Nice try, troll

Yup. That is some kind of freaky change up. Sure, blame the people advocating for equity, not the ones trying to exclude URMs to hoard resources. My white kid benefits from this decision, but I am opposed because it is not right and perpetuates racism in the guise of not considering race.

Your white kid does not benefit from the decision. At scale this is essentially a battle of whites vs Asians, not a battle over the still relatively small set of AA set asides. This decision hurts your kid.

The institutional systems in America benefits whites. Unless legacy admissions stop at highly selective colleges, UMC and rich whites will benefit. That's what Ed Blum and SFFA wanted all along. Asians will continue to be overrepresented, but not at the levels some think. 30-33% or so.

It is clear from the NYT article today that "the institutional systems" benefit people in the top 1%. The whites who are in the bottom 99% do not benefit. And the number of whites who are in the top 1% is very small indeed, so just quit crying about "rich white privilege" already.

Your comparing apples and oranges. The nyt is talking overall whereas this thread is about the effect of scotus decision on essays. Don't conflate the two.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how swiftly any cares about equity went out the window after SCOTUS struck down affirmative action, thereby boosting chances of admission for whites. I see the glee and excuses and it's shocking.

It only boosted chances for Asians. Which is the real reason white patents are so mad.

Nice try, troll

Yup. That is some kind of freaky change up. Sure, blame the people advocating for equity, not the ones trying to exclude URMs to hoard resources. My white kid benefits from this decision, but I am opposed because it is not right and perpetuates racism in the guise of not considering race.

Your white kid does not benefit from the decision. At scale this is essentially a battle of whites vs Asians, not a battle over the still relatively small set of AA set asides. This decision hurts your kid.

The institutional systems in America benefits whites. Unless legacy admissions stop at highly selective colleges, UMC and rich whites will benefit. That's what Ed Blum and SFFA wanted all along. Asians will continue to be overrepresented, but not at the levels some think. 30-33% or so.

It is clear from the NYT article today that "the institutional systems" benefit people in the top 1%. The whites who are in the bottom 99% do not benefit. And the number of whites who are in the top 1% is very small indeed, so just quit crying about "rich white privilege" already.

With your drivel, you failed to mention that whites constitute the vast majority of the top 1%. You also responded to a post that states that...rich whites will benefit.

And yes:

The institutional systems in America do benefit whites.

So you think only white people are rich? That’s pretty racist. South Asians are richer than whites.

Ok.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how swiftly any cares about equity went out the window after SCOTUS struck down affirmative action, thereby boosting chances of admission for whites. I see the glee and excuses and it's shocking.

It only boosted chances for Asians. Which is the real reason white patents are so mad.

Nice try, troll

Yup. That is some kind of freaky change up. Sure, blame the people advocating for equity, not the ones trying to exclude URMs to hoard resources. My white kid benefits from this decision, but I am opposed because it is not right and perpetuates racism in the guise of not considering race.

Exactly. It’s just a hidden way to allow racism against URMs.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will result in lots of trauma essays and I’m a good ally essays.

My African American DS refuses to write a trauma essay in response to this type of question. Although he has been profiled by police and in stores, he is upper middle class and doesn't think it is appropriate to construct an essay around racial identity/ trauma or else you are low-income, something significant happened that negatively impacted his life, discrimination in an educational setting, attend an under-resourced school. etc.

Speaks volumes about his integrity. Good for him. Hope you are proud.

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Anonymous wrote:It will result in lots of trauma essays and I’m a good ally essays.

My African American DS refuses to write a trauma essay in response to this type of question. Although he has been profiled by police and in stores, he is upper middle class and doesn't think it is appropriate to construct an essay around racial identity/ trauma or else you are low-income, something significant happened that negatively impacted his life, discrimination in an educational setting, attend an under-resourced school. etc.

I assume the colleges are hoping he’ll write a leadership/representation piece.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how swiftly any cares about equity went out the window after SCOTUS struck down affirmative action, thereby boosting chances of admission for whites. I see the glee and excuses and it's shocking.

It only boosted chances for Asians. Which is the real reason white patents are so mad.

Nice try, troll

Yup. That is some kind of freaky change up. Sure, blame the people advocating for equity, not the ones trying to exclude URMs to hoard resources. My white kid benefits from this decision, but I am opposed because it is not right and perpetuates racism in the guise of not considering race.

Your white kid does not benefit from the decision. At scale this is essentially a battle of whites vs Asians, not a battle over the still relatively small set of AA set asides. This decision hurts your kid.

The institutional systems in America benefits whites. Unless legacy admissions stop at highly selective colleges, UMC and rich whites will benefit. That's what Ed Blum and SFFA wanted all along. Asians will continue to be overrepresented, but not at the levels some think. 30-33% or so.

It is clear from the NYT article today that "the institutional systems" benefit people in the top 1%. The whites who are in the bottom 99% do not benefit. And the number of whites who are in the top 1% is very small indeed, so just quit crying about "rich white privilege" already.

With your drivel, you failed to mention that whites constitute the vast majority of the top 1%. You also responded to a post that states that...rich whites will benefit.

And yes:

The institutional systems in America do benefit whites.

So you think only white people are rich? That’s pretty racist. South Asians are richer than whites.

That's recent. The vast majority of South Asians are immigrant families and they don't have the legacy connections, network and situational knowledge that rich Whites do. For example, most of them scramble for magnet schools for HS and target STEM in college, exactly the same things that they did as lower/middle class. Rich Whites don't care about magnets, focus on ECs, target LACs/ liberal arts education at elite schools and focus on grad school. Different approaches.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how swiftly any cares about equity went out the window after SCOTUS struck down affirmative action, thereby boosting chances of admission for whites. I see the glee and excuses and it's shocking.

It only boosted chances for Asians. Which is the real reason white patents are so mad.

Nice try, troll

Yup. That is some kind of freaky change up. Sure, blame the people advocating for equity, not the ones trying to exclude URMs to hoard resources. My white kid benefits from this decision, but I am opposed because it is not right and perpetuates racism in the guise of not considering race.

Your white kid does not benefit from the decision. At scale this is essentially a battle of whites vs Asians, not a battle over the still relatively small set of AA set asides. This decision hurts your kid.

The institutional systems in America benefits whites. Unless legacy admissions stop at highly selective colleges, UMC and rich whites will benefit. That's what Ed Blum and SFFA wanted all along. Asians will continue to be overrepresented, but not at the levels some think. 30-33% or so.

It is clear from the NYT article today that "the institutional systems" benefit people in the top 1%. The whites who are in the bottom 99% do not benefit. And the number of whites who are in the top 1% is very small indeed, so just quit crying about "rich white privilege" already.

With your drivel, you failed to mention that whites constitute the vast majority of the top 1%. You also responded to a post that states that...rich whites will benefit.

And yes:

The institutional systems in America do benefit whites.

So you think only white people are rich? That’s pretty racist. South Asians are richer than whites.

That's recent. The vast majority of South Asians are immigrant families and they don't have the legacy connections, network and situational knowledge that rich Whites do. For example, most of them scramble for magnet schools for HS and target STEM in college, exactly the same things that they did as lower/middle class. Rich Whites don't care about magnets, focus on ECs, target LACs/ liberal arts education at elite schools and focus on grad school. Different approaches.

+1

I love it when people who actually know what they are talking about make sense post on DCUM.

Beats the trolls.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how swiftly any cares about equity went out the window after SCOTUS struck down affirmative action, thereby boosting chances of admission for whites. I see the glee and excuses and it's shocking.

It only boosted chances for Asians. Which is the real reason white patents are so mad.

Nice try, troll

Yup. That is some kind of freaky change up. Sure, blame the people advocating for equity, not the ones trying to exclude URMs to hoard resources. My white kid benefits from this decision, but I am opposed because it is not right and perpetuates racism in the guise of not considering race.

Your white kid does not benefit from the decision. At scale this is essentially a battle of whites vs Asians, not a battle over the still relatively small set of AA set asides. This decision hurts your kid.

The institutional systems in America benefits whites. Unless legacy admissions stop at highly selective colleges, UMC and rich whites will benefit. That's what Ed Blum and SFFA wanted all along. Asians will continue to be overrepresented, but not at the levels some think. 30-33% or so.

It is clear from the NYT article today that "the institutional systems" benefit people in the top 1%. The whites who are in the bottom 99% do not benefit. And the number of whites who are in the top 1% is very small indeed, so just quit crying about "rich white privilege" already.

With your drivel, you failed to mention that whites constitute the vast majority of the top 1%. You also responded to a post that states that...rich whites will benefit.

And yes:

The institutional systems in America do benefit whites.

So you think only white people are rich? That’s pretty racist. South Asians are richer than whites.

That's recent. The vast majority of South Asians are immigrant families and they don't have the legacy connections, network and situational knowledge that rich Whites do. For example, most of them scramble for magnet schools for HS and target STEM in college, exactly the same things that they did as lower/middle class. Rich Whites don't care about magnets, focus on ECs, target LACs/ liberal arts education at elite schools and focus on grad school. Different approaches.

+1

I love it when people who actually know what they are talking about make sense post on DCUM.

Beats the trolls.

The South Asian families we know (not-rich public school) are all college educated, some professors, some HYPS/Oxbridge alums. None super rich, but all well off. Some have good legacy connections, others don't.

I don't think we should make sweeping statements on a whole segment of people either way. Sure there are rich and poor, connected and unconnected immigrants from various places.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how swiftly any cares about equity went out the window after SCOTUS struck down affirmative action, thereby boosting chances of admission for whites. I see the glee and excuses and it's shocking.

It only boosted chances for Asians. Which is the real reason white patents are so mad.

Nice try, troll

Yup. That is some kind of freaky change up. Sure, blame the people advocating for equity, not the ones trying to exclude URMs to hoard resources. My white kid benefits from this decision, but I am opposed because it is not right and perpetuates racism in the guise of not considering race.

Your white kid does not benefit from the decision. At scale this is essentially a battle of whites vs Asians, not a battle over the still relatively small set of AA set asides. This decision hurts your kid.

The institutional systems in America benefits whites. Unless legacy admissions stop at highly selective colleges, UMC and rich whites will benefit. That's what Ed Blum and SFFA wanted all along. Asians will continue to be overrepresented, but not at the levels some think. 30-33% or so.

It is clear from the NYT article today that "the institutional systems" benefit people in the top 1%. The whites who are in the bottom 99% do not benefit. And the number of whites who are in the top 1% is very small indeed, so just quit crying about "rich white privilege" already.

With your drivel, you failed to mention that whites constitute the vast majority of the top 1%. You also responded to a post that states that...rich whites will benefit.

And yes:

The institutional systems in America do benefit whites.

So you think only white people are rich? That’s pretty racist. South Asians are richer than whites.

That's recent. The vast majority of South Asians are immigrant families and they don't have the legacy connections, network and situational knowledge that rich Whites do. For example, most of them scramble for magnet schools for HS and target STEM in college, exactly the same things that they did as lower/middle class. Rich Whites don't care about magnets, focus on ECs, target LACs/ liberal arts education at elite schools and focus on grad school. Different approaches.

+1

I love it when people who actually know what they are talking about make sense post on DCUM.

Beats the trolls.

The South Asian families we know (not-rich public school) are all college educated, some professors, some HYPS/Oxbridge alums. None super rich, but all well off. Some have good legacy connections, others don't.

I don't think we should make sweeping statements on a whole segment of people either way. Sure there are rich and poor, connected and unconnected immigrants from various places.

Super rich Indian Americans don’t live in the dc area

Jews have way more wealth in dmv than East Asians or south Asians in dc

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how swiftly any cares about equity went out the window after SCOTUS struck down affirmative action, thereby boosting chances of admission for whites. I see the glee and excuses and it's shocking.

It only boosted chances for Asians. Which is the real reason white patents are so mad.

Nice try, troll

Yup. That is some kind of freaky change up. Sure, blame the people advocating for equity, not the ones trying to exclude URMs to hoard resources. My white kid benefits from this decision, but I am opposed because it is not right and perpetuates racism in the guise of not considering race.

Your white kid does not benefit from the decision. At scale this is essentially a battle of whites vs Asians, not a battle over the still relatively small set of AA set asides. This decision hurts your kid.

The institutional systems in America benefits whites. Unless legacy admissions stop at highly selective colleges, UMC and rich whites will benefit. That's what Ed Blum and SFFA wanted all along. Asians will continue to be overrepresented, but not at the levels some think. 30-33% or so.

It is clear from the NYT article today that "the institutional systems" benefit people in the top 1%. The whites who are in the bottom 99% do not benefit. And the number of whites who are in the top 1% is very small indeed, so just quit crying about "rich white privilege" already.

With your drivel, you failed to mention that whites constitute the vast majority of the top 1%. You also responded to a post that states that...rich whites will benefit.

And yes:

The institutional systems in America do benefit whites.

So you think only white people are rich? That’s pretty racist. South Asians are richer than whites.

That's recent. The vast majority of South Asians are immigrant families and they don't have the legacy connections, network and situational knowledge that rich Whites do. For example, most of them scramble for magnet schools for HS and target STEM in college, exactly the same things that they did as lower/middle class. Rich Whites don't care about magnets, focus on ECs, target LACs/ liberal arts education at elite schools and focus on grad school. Different approaches.

+1

I love it when people who actually know what they are talking about make sense post on DCUM.

Beats the trolls.

The South Asian families we know (not-rich public school) are all college educated, some professors, some HYPS/Oxbridge alums. None super rich, but all well off. Some have good legacy connections, others don't.

I don't think we should make sweeping statements on a whole segment of people either way. Sure there are rich and poor, connected and unconnected immigrants from various places.

Of course. The original pp was implying it's all about money and it's not.

I am a South Asian and my community network is vast. I know many who came with nothing and are now worth $30 mil+. Neither them nor those who went to Oxbridge/HYPS have the generational connections that, say, a White partner at a mediocre law firm may have. Most send their kids to Publics or to academic focused privates.

Some of the White folk I know, while they may not be as rich as the Indians, have a family beach house, vacation there every summer weekend with kids and wife spending the entire summer there, kids are in sailing clubs, etc., Most of their kids likely end up at top LACS or top schools because they have been going there for generations and/or 'great-grandpa paid for a building back in the 60s'. Don't know a single Indian like that. If you do, you have found the unicorn.

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how swiftly any cares about equity went out the window after SCOTUS struck down affirmative action, thereby boosting chances of admission for whites. I see the glee and excuses and it's shocking.

It only boosted chances for Asians. Which is the real reason white patents are so mad.

Nice try, troll

Yup. That is some kind of freaky change up. Sure, blame the people advocating for equity, not the ones trying to exclude URMs to hoard resources. My white kid benefits from this decision, but I am opposed because it is not right and perpetuates racism in the guise of not considering race.

Your white kid does not benefit from the decision. At scale this is essentially a battle of whites vs Asians, not a battle over the still relatively small set of AA set asides. This decision hurts your kid.

The institutional systems in America benefits whites. Unless legacy admissions stop at highly selective colleges, UMC and rich whites will benefit. That's what Ed Blum and SFFA wanted all along. Asians will continue to be overrepresented, but not at the levels some think. 30-33% or so.

It is clear from the NYT article today that "the institutional systems" benefit people in the top 1%. The whites who are in the bottom 99% do not benefit. And the number of whites who are in the top 1% is very small indeed, so just quit crying about "rich white privilege" already.

With your drivel, you failed to mention that whites constitute the vast majority of the top 1%. You also responded to a post that states that...rich whites will benefit.

And yes:

The institutional systems in America do benefit whites.

So you think only white people are rich? That’s pretty racist. South Asians are richer than whites.

That's recent. The vast majority of South Asians are immigrant families and they don't have the legacy connections, network and situational knowledge that rich Whites do. For example, most of them scramble for magnet schools for HS and target STEM in college, exactly the same things that they did as lower/middle class. Rich Whites don't care about magnets, focus on ECs, target LACs/ liberal arts education at elite schools and focus on grad school. Different approaches.

+1

I love it when people who actually know what they are talking about make sense post on DCUM.

Beats the trolls.

The South Asian families we know (not-rich public school) are all college educated, some professors, some HYPS/Oxbridge alums. None super rich, but all well off. Some have good legacy connections, others don't.

I don't think we should make sweeping statements on a whole segment of people either way. Sure there are rich and poor, connected and unconnected immigrants from various places.

Of course. The original pp was implying it's all about money and it's not.

I am a South Asian and my community network is vast. I know many who came with nothing and are now worth $30 mil+. Neither them nor those who went to Oxbridge/HYPS have the generational connections that, say, a White partner at a mediocre law firm may have. Most send their kids to Publics or to academic focused privates.

Some of the White folk I know, while they may not be as rich as the Indians, have a family beach house, vacation there every summer weekend with kids and wife spending the entire summer there, kids are in sailing clubs, etc., Most of their kids likely end up at top LACS or top schools because they have been going there for generations and/or 'great-grandpa paid for a building back in the 60s'. Don't know a single Indian like that. If you do, you have found the unicorn.

Indian Americans even with money don’t really buy beach or mountain second homes

Rich Asian people buy multiple properties in cities or suburbs but not really “nature get aways”