Our Current Situation - Not thrilled

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if it's true, but what I keep hearing is that really exceptional students are for the first time being rejected from many state universities due to protecting yield. The colleges make the assumption the kid won't accept the offer due to being high stats. If it's true, it's just wrong. Many kids can only afford state tuition, but apply to privates with hope of getting aid to make it possible--and/or are just truly undecided when they apply to several universities.

I hear about students rejected from UVA, W&M, Tech, etc., that are above and far beyond admission profiles.

Again, I don't have a kid applying this year. My oldest is a Junior, but that is what neighbors and classmates with older siblings have been telling us.

^ and if they don't apply ED--they just reject them outright. Which, of course, if you are undecided and have some reaches--you likely don't want to commit to ED.

What makes the situation more difficult is that in-state applicants with stats well beyond the 25-75% admissions profile range ARE being accepted to these schools. This is certainly the case per Naviance for our FCPS high school. So why is one 4.6wGPA/1560 SAT student accepted by X school despite yield protection concerns but another with identical stats is rejected by the same school, especially if the CDS for the school states that demonstrated interest is not considered?

1)Because the state probably feels some responsibility to educate it's own taxpayers. Also kids who grew up locally are far more likely to stick in Colorado after graduation.

2)Is a super high stats kid from across the US REALLY going to have CU as their first choice and best option? No. Let's be honest. CU knows this. They don't want to accept OPs kid when they know the chance of him matriculating is probably less than 5%. It figures into their matriculation stats (which are a big deal for a university) plus it's just a PITA to have to find another top kid (if enough decline).

Stop it with the stupid “yield protection” explanation. CU is not Tufts. They admit 86% and they don’t care how many actually enroll. Of their enrolled kids, 21% have SAT 1400-1600, 34% have 4.0 gpa, 20% have 3.75-3.99 gpa so yes they accept super high stats kids AND such kids actually enroll.

34% have a weighted 4.0. That is apple and oranges compared to OP's kid with an unweighted 4.0.
21% have an SAT over 1400. Again, it's not the same as a 1550. That is probably under 3% of their enrolled population.

Not OP but I don't know why so many people insist on portraying this kid as being a dime a dozen.

I agree that he is not a dime a dozen but according to reports from the Common App there are at least 40k kids with similar stats (GPA/test scores). The one sitting doesn’t have any weight in admissions. The deferral from Purdue is puzzling? What do you think happened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You people crapping on the OP are off base IMO. Let’s be honest; this kid had top 1% GPA, top 1% SAT scores and all the rest of the package. Schools like Perdue and CU aren’t swimming in kids like this. It’s completely reasonable to be upset that someone with a resume like this isn’t being immediately accepted into the schools mentioned.

+1 I agree. OP, I think I know how you feel and worry we'll be in the same boat next year.

Sorry to hijack, but this thread seems full of people who seem to know good stem schools. What owuld be a good college for a kid interested in physics? similar stats etc. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry you're disappointed, OP. I'm not familiar with the colleges you reference, but I know of a college freshman at an top Ivy with "similar" stats (it's hard to compare, but same academics, no Eagle Scout, competed in Science Olympiad and played an instrument at an advanced level).

Your son has better stats than mine (Humanities oriented) and he's been deferred at Georgetown.

US college admissions are incredibly confusing and disheartening. They require strategic thinking beyond what the typical senior is capable of, and it creates a gulf between those who know and those who don't. I'm talking about deciding whether or not to submit scores depending on the admitted SAT range of the institution, whether to apply EA, ED or otherwise, picking ED at a match instead of holding out for a reach, writing thoughtful, mature essays... that kind of stuff.

And even if you think you've strategized the best way you could... it can still end in disappointment.

I say "you" because college admissions are so difficult it really is, or should be, a team effort.

This team seems to lack certain qualifications.

PP you replied to. No, my son was very clear he wanted local colleges (local to DC). So he didn't go further afield.

Why the gratuitous nastiness?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You people crapping on the OP are off base IMO. Let’s be honest; this kid had top 1% GPA, top 1% SAT scores and all the rest of the package. Schools like Perdue and CU aren’t swimming in kids like this. It’s completely reasonable to be upset that someone with a resume like this isn’t being immediately accepted into the schools mentioned.

+1 I agree. OP, I think I know how you feel and worry we'll be in the same boat next year.

Sorry to hijack, but this thread seems full of people who seem to know good stem schools. What owuld be a good college for a kid interested in physics? similar stats etc. Thanks.

U Rochester has an amazing physics program.

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I honestly don't understand why people continue to rant about their kid's admission results, especially when applying to CS or engineering, which are currently two of the most sought after majors across the country. Your post comes across as entitled and uninformed, given the current admissions climate. Admissions decisions are nuanced and as kids are shotgunning 15-20 apps, it's highly competitive. Every program has a limited number of seats and is why more schools are using the direct admit approach. Your kid was admitted to Pitt, GMU (with honors) and VCU for his desired major. As others have noted, he has options and that's something to celebrate, not diminish.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I get what everyone is saying but please stop saying a kid with:

4.0, never less than an A in 7 years
9 APs including the most rigorous sci & math
Strong ECs strongly aligning with academic interest
1550 one sitting
Eagle Scout

is a dime a dozen, HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of kids, SO typical.

No. Not true. Not here. Not anywhere.

OP's kid will thrive because that's who he is and we can all look at this theoretically and say, oh whatever college is fine he'll be a success who cares it's such an honor to go to gmu...

It is disappointing and yes, on some level, unfair how this is all going down.

She's allowed to be upset. You are allowed to criticize her. And I am allowed to call you a clown.

No--there are tons of kids with those stats or very close (1550+ and 3.95UW and 10+ APs). Once you hit 1550+ the score does not really matter. There are lots of kids with great stats, due to test prep. And the "one sitting" does not matter as 99% of schools superscore and Do NOT care if it took more than 1 attempt. And that group of kids is applying to 10-15+ top/elite schools. When acceptance rates are less than 15-20%, you should assume your kid will not get in and be excited if you do.

Yes, OP kid will (or should) thrive anywhere because they are smart, driven, high achieving. But the college process has been brutal for several years and gotten worse each year, TO makes it even more challenging. Smart people know this and prepare. That means finding Safeties that you ACTuALLY LIKE and want to attend and showing demonstrated interest. Why apply to schools that you wouldn't actually want to attend?

Yes, be disappointed for a day or so after you get rejected, then move on and focus on what's remaining.

What do you mean by “tons”? This is an incredibly small pool. Of the 2.13M sat test takers, 8323 students scored 1550 or higher (according to a Google search). Let’s be generous and agree that 80% of kids with those scores also have 10 APs, good EC’s, and almost all A’s. That brings us to 6659 students. Let’s say there are only 5 population centers where these kids live (vast oversimplification helping your argument), that means that there are 1331 such students in the DMV. Total enrollment in MCPS is 160,560 and FCPS is 181K plus. Dividing by 12 you calculate total number of high school seniors as something like 20K in the DMV (which ignores all other counties, DCPS and private school). Even using this favorable (to your argument) analysis, fewer than 1 in 100 high school kids in this area will have these stats. 0.7% is rare. And it’s a disservice to these kids to pretend they are a dime a dozen (even here).

Doesn’t mean they will all get into a T-Whatever college or that there won’t be disappointments galore. But I am tired of hearing about how these high achievements are run of the mill. They are decidedly not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I get what everyone is saying but please stop saying a kid with:

4.0, never less than an A in 7 years
9 APs including the most rigorous sci & math
Strong ECs strongly aligning with academic interest
1550 one sitting
Eagle Scout

is a dime a dozen, HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of kids, SO typical.

No. Not true. Not here. Not anywhere.

OP's kid will thrive because that's who he is and we can all look at this theoretically and say, oh whatever college is fine he'll be a success who cares it's such an honor to go to gmu...

It is disappointing and yes, on some level, unfair how this is all going down.

She's allowed to be upset. You are allowed to criticize her. And I am allowed to call you a clown.

No--there are tons of kids with those stats or very close (1550+ and 3.95UW and 10+ APs). Once you hit 1550+ the score does not really matter. There are lots of kids with great stats, due to test prep. And the "one sitting" does not matter as 99% of schools superscore and Do NOT care if it took more than 1 attempt. And that group of kids is applying to 10-15+ top/elite schools. When acceptance rates are less than 15-20%, you should assume your kid will not get in and be excited if you do.

Yes, OP kid will (or should) thrive anywhere because they are smart, driven, high achieving. But the college process has been brutal for several years and gotten worse each year, TO makes it even more challenging. Smart people know this and prepare. That means finding Safeties that you ACTuALLY LIKE and want to attend and showing demonstrated interest. Why apply to schools that you wouldn't actually want to attend?

Yes, be disappointed for a day or so after you get rejected, then move on and focus on what's remaining.

What do you mean by “tons”? This is an incredibly small pool. Of the 2.13M sat test takers, 8323 students scored 1550 or higher (according to a Google search). Let’s be generous and agree that 80% of kids with those scores also have 10 APs, good EC’s, and almost all A’s. That brings us to 6659 students. Let’s say there are only 5 population centers where these kids live (vast oversimplification helping your argument), that means that there are 1331 such students in the DMV. Total enrollment in MCPS is 160,560 and FCPS is 181K plus. Dividing by 12 you calculate total number of high school seniors as something like 20K in the DMV (which ignores all other counties, DCPS and private school). Even using this favorable (to your argument) analysis, fewer than 1 in 100 high school kids in this area will have these stats. 0.7% is rare. And it’s a disservice to these kids to pretend they are a dime a dozen (even here).

Doesn’t mean they will all get into a T-Whatever college or that there won’t be disappointments galore. But I am tired of hearing about how these high achievements are run of the mill. They are decidedly not.

NP: your original number doesn’t take into account superscores. College Board only reports one sitting scores by cohort year. You also don’t consider ACT scores in regions that use that test over SATs. For admissions, it doesn’t matter that a kid scores 1550 in one sitting. Also, 1550 and 1500 are not separate pools of students for admission purposes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. I get what everyone is saying but please stop saying a kid with:

4.0, never less than an A in 7 years
9 APs including the most rigorous sci & math
Strong ECs strongly aligning with academic interest
1550 one sitting
Eagle Scout

is a dime a dozen, HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of kids, SO typical.

No. Not true. Not here. Not anywhere.

OP's kid will thrive because that's who he is and we can all look at this theoretically and say, oh whatever college is fine he'll be a success who cares it's such an honor to go to gmu...

It is disappointing and yes, on some level, unfair how this is all going down.

She's allowed to be upset. You are allowed to criticize her. And I am allowed to call you a clown.

No--there are tons of kids with those stats or very close (1550+ and 3.95UW and 10+ APs). Once you hit 1550+ the score does not really matter. There are lots of kids with great stats, due to test prep. And the "one sitting" does not matter as 99% of schools superscore and Do NOT care if it took more than 1 attempt. And that group of kids is applying to 10-15+ top/elite schools. When acceptance rates are less than 15-20%, you should assume your kid will not get in and be excited if you do.

Yes, OP kid will (or should) thrive anywhere because they are smart, driven, high achieving. But the college process has been brutal for several years and gotten worse each year, TO makes it even more challenging. Smart people know this and prepare. That means finding Safeties that you ACTuALLY LIKE and want to attend and showing demonstrated interest. Why apply to schools that you wouldn't actually want to attend?

Yes, be disappointed for a day or so after you get rejected, then move on and focus on what's remaining.

What do you mean by “tons”? This is an incredibly small pool. Of the 2.13M sat test takers, 8323 students scored 1550 or higher (according to a Google search). Let’s be generous and agree that 80% of kids with those scores also have 10 APs, good EC’s, and almost all A’s. That brings us to 6659 students. Let’s say there are only 5 population centers where these kids live (vast oversimplification helping your argument), that means that there are 1331 such students in the DMV. Total enrollment in MCPS is 160,560 and FCPS is 181K plus. Dividing by 12 you calculate total number of high school seniors as something like 20K in the DMV (which ignores all other counties, DCPS and private school). Even using this favorable (to your argument) analysis, fewer than 1 in 100 high school kids in this area will have these stats. 0.7% is rare. And it’s a disservice to these kids to pretend they are a dime a dozen (even here).

Doesn’t mean they will all get into a T-Whatever college or that there won’t be disappointments galore. But I am tired of hearing about how these high achievements are run of the mill. They are decidedly not.

NP: your original number doesn’t take into account superscores. College Board only reports one sitting scores by cohort year. You also don’t consider ACT scores in regions that use that test over SATs. For admissions, it doesn’t matter that a kid scores 1550 in one sitting. Also, 1550 and 1500 are not separate pools of students for admission purposes.

Forgot to add that you also can’t limit your analysis to one year of test takers because students take the SAT between 10th and 12th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You people crapping on the OP are off base IMO. Let’s be honest; this kid had top 1% GPA, top 1% SAT scores and all the rest of the package. Schools like Perdue and CU aren’t swimming in kids like this. It’s completely reasonable to be upset that someone with a resume like this isn’t being immediately accepted into the schools mentioned.

He applied to CS, so yes, they are. "Purdue students generally sport A-/B+ averages in a rigorous high school program and possess average standardized test scores above the 90th percentile of all test-takers. For prospective engineering/CS students, virtually all A’s and standardized test scores above the 95th percentile are recommended." https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/how-to-get-into-purdue-university/ The CS program has a ~10% direct admit rate, so lots of A students in the 95th+ are being rejected from the CS program. It is the most popular major at the university and it is very hard to bet in to. OP's kid is among the well qualified applicants, and meets the minimum recommended to apply, and has not been rejected. They are big on showing interest, so if OPs kid wants to be among this highly qualified group of kids, he should continue to show strong interest.

They also are turning away internal 4.0 kids who try to transfer into CS. https://www.purdueexponent.org/campus/article_14851194-dd66-11e9-8ea0-1764f0ba0b05.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You people crapping on the OP are off base IMO. Let’s be honest; this kid had top 1% GPA, top 1% SAT scores and all the rest of the package. Schools like Perdue and CU aren’t swimming in kids like this. It’s completely reasonable to be upset that someone with a resume like this isn’t being immediately accepted into the schools mentioned.

He applied to CS, so yes, they are. "Purdue students generally sport A-/B+ averages in a rigorous high school program and possess average standardized test scores above the 90th percentile of all test-takers. For prospective engineering/CS students, virtually all A’s and standardized test scores above the 95th percentile are recommended." https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/how-to-get-into-purdue-university/ The CS program has a ~10% direct admit rate, so lots of A students in the 95th+ are being rejected from the CS program. It is the most popular major at the university and it is very hard to bet in to. OP's kid is among the well qualified applicants, and meets the minimum recommended to apply, and has not been rejected. They are big on showing interest, so if OPs kid wants to be among this highly qualified group of kids, he should continue to show strong interest.

They also are turning away internal 4.0 kids who try to transfer into CS. https://www.purdueexponent.org/campus/article_14851194-dd66-11e9-8ea0-1764f0ba0b05.html

CU grad here - CU exploratory studies makes it pretty easy to transfer into CS vs. the Purdue situation above. You just need B grades in your gen ed/into requirements.You're not competing with other students once you're in, just working to meet the requirements with the minimum GPA. And if you can't hack B grades in those classes, you probably couldn't handle a cs/engineering major anyways.It's a pretty simple process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I get what everyone is saying but please stop saying a kid with:

4.0, never less than an A in 7 years
9 APs including the most rigorous sci & math
Strong ECs strongly aligning with academic interest
1550 one sitting
Eagle Scout

is a dime a dozen, HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of kids, SO typical.

No. Not true. Not here. Not anywhere.

OP's kid will thrive because that's who he is and we can all look at this theoretically and say, oh whatever college is fine he'll be a success who cares it's such an honor to go to gmu...

It is disappointing and yes, on some level, unfair how this is all going down.

She's allowed to be upset. You are allowed to criticize her. And I am allowed to call you a clown.

No--there are tons of kids with those stats or very close (1550+ and 3.95UW and 10+ APs). Once you hit 1550+ the score does not really matter. There are lots of kids with great stats, due to test prep. And the "one sitting" does not matter as 99% of schools superscore and Do NOT care if it took more than 1 attempt. And that group of kids is applying to 10-15+ top/elite schools. When acceptance rates are less than 15-20%, you should assume your kid will not get in and be excited if you do.

Yes, OP kid will (or should) thrive anywhere because they are smart, driven, high achieving. But the college process has been brutal for several years and gotten worse each year, TO makes it even more challenging. Smart people know this and prepare. That means finding Safeties that you ACTuALLY LIKE and want to attend and showing demonstrated interest. Why apply to schools that you wouldn't actually want to attend?

Yes, be disappointed for a day or so after you get rejected, then move on and focus on what's remaining.

What do you mean by “tons”? This is an incredibly small pool. Of the 2.13M sat test takers, 8323 students scored 1550 or higher (according to a Google search). Let’s be generous and agree that 80% of kids with those scores also have 10 APs, good EC’s, and almost all A’s. That brings us to 6659 students. Let’s say there are only 5 population centers where these kids live (vast oversimplification helping your argument), that means that there are 1331 such students in the DMV. Total enrollment in MCPS is 160,560 and FCPS is 181K plus. Dividing by 12 you calculate total number of high school seniors as something like 20K in the DMV (which ignores all other counties, DCPS and private school). Even using this favorable (to your argument) analysis, fewer than 1 in 100 high school kids in this area will have these stats. 0.7% is rare. And it’s a disservice to these kids to pretend they are a dime a dozen (even here).

Doesn’t mean they will all get into a T-Whatever college or that there won’t be disappointments galore. But I am tired of hearing about how these high achievements are run of the mill. They are decidedly not.

NP: your original number doesn’t take into account superscores. College Board only reports one sitting scores by cohort year. You also don’t consider ACT scores in regions that use that test over SATs. For admissions, it doesn’t matter that a kid scores 1550 in one sitting. Also, 1550 and 1500 are not separate pools of students for admission purposes.

Forgot to add that you also can’t limit your analysis to one year of test takers because students take the SAT between 10th and 12th grade.

Seriously? Ok. Go up to 1 in 100 rather than less than 1 in a 100. The point still stands. These are rare scores and these are kids we should collectively be proud of. There are ways to make your point about how uncertain the college admission process is without resorting to say these kids are “a dime a dozen”.

[Anonymous]

OP, I did not read the entire thread, but I hope you are staying positive for your kid. He has some excellent admittances and I would not be surprised if he gets offered a spot at Purdue.

UT Austin, Rice, and University of Washington were never going to happen. Georgia Tech is a toss up, but probably also a "no". Wisconsin seems like he should have a good shot.

I went through this with my kid last year. You need to be VERY positive about all of his acceptances and remind him why he likes those schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. I get what everyone is saying but please stop saying a kid with:

4.0, never less than an A in 7 years
9 APs including the most rigorous sci & math
Strong ECs strongly aligning with academic interest
1550 one sitting
Eagle Scout

is a dime a dozen, HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of kids, SO typical.

No. Not true. Not here. Not anywhere.

OP's kid will thrive because that's who he is and we can all look at this theoretically and say, oh whatever college is fine he'll be a success who cares it's such an honor to go to gmu...

It is disappointing and yes, on some level, unfair how this is all going down.

She's allowed to be upset. You are allowed to criticize her. And I am allowed to call you a clown.

No--there are tons of kids with those stats or very close (1550+ and 3.95UW and 10+ APs). Once you hit 1550+ the score does not really matter. There are lots of kids with great stats, due to test prep. And the "one sitting" does not matter as 99% of schools superscore and Do NOT care if it took more than 1 attempt. And that group of kids is applying to 10-15+ top/elite schools. When acceptance rates are less than 15-20%, you should assume your kid will not get in and be excited if you do.

Yes, OP kid will (or should) thrive anywhere because they are smart, driven, high achieving. But the college process has been brutal for several years and gotten worse each year, TO makes it even more challenging. Smart people know this and prepare. That means finding Safeties that you ACTuALLY LIKE and want to attend and showing demonstrated interest. Why apply to schools that you wouldn't actually want to attend?

Yes, be disappointed for a day or so after you get rejected, then move on and focus on what's remaining.

What do you mean by “tons”? This is an incredibly small pool. Of the 2.13M sat test takers, 8323 students scored 1550 or higher (according to a Google search). Let’s be generous and agree that 80% of kids with those scores also have 10 APs, good EC’s, and almost all A’s. That brings us to 6659 students. Let’s say there are only 5 population centers where these kids live (vast oversimplification helping your argument), that means that there are 1331 such students in the DMV. Total enrollment in MCPS is 160,560 and FCPS is 181K plus. Dividing by 12 you calculate total number of high school seniors as something like 20K in the DMV (which ignores all other counties, DCPS and private school). Even using this favorable (to your argument) analysis, fewer than 1 in 100 high school kids in this area will have these stats. 0.7% is rare. And it’s a disservice to these kids to pretend they are a dime a dozen (even here).

Doesn’t mean they will all get into a T-Whatever college or that there won’t be disappointments galore. But I am tired of hearing about how these high achievements are run of the mill. They are decidedly not.

NP: your original number doesn’t take into account superscores. College Board only reports one sitting scores by cohort year. You also don’t consider ACT scores in regions that use that test over SATs. For admissions, it doesn’t matter that a kid scores 1550 in one sitting. Also, 1550 and 1500 are not separate pools of students for admission purposes.

Forgot to add that you also can’t limit your analysis to one year of test takers because students take the SAT between 10th and 12th grade.

Seriously? Ok. Go up to 1 in 100 rather than less than 1 in a 100. The point still stands. These are rare scores and these are kids we should collectively be proud of. There are ways to make your point about how uncertain the college admission process is without resorting to say these kids are “a dime a dozen”.

I didn’t say he was a dime a dozen and I am not one of the posters trying to take away his accomplishments. I’m noting that for admissions purposes, his uniqueness and accomplishments are not distinguishing because of the the admissions landscape. For example, we don’t have one national standardized test that everyone sits for 1 time during the same period/ date. We don’t have standardized HA curriculum/grading. Therefore, the OP’s son (and my similar DS) do seem like a dime a dozen even if statistically they are not.

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Anonymous wrote:You people crapping on the OP are off base IMO. Let’s be honest; this kid had top 1% GPA, top 1% SAT scores and all the rest of the package. Schools like Perdue and CU aren’t swimming in kids like this. It’s completely reasonable to be upset that someone with a resume like this isn’t being immediately accepted into the schools mentioned.

I'm sure he got yield protected at CU and probably Perdue too. CU for sure knows he will never enroll there.

Boulder has 80% acceptance rate they don’t do yield protection FFS.

And OP’s son is in that 80%. Just not for his preferred major. Which is too bad of course.

Yes---he "got into CU". Personally, I don't call general admission "getting in", but I guess that is what happens at large State schools

can't they just transfer to CS after starting general admission at CU?

I'm sure he could (I'm not OP). But no idea how challenging that is. At many state flagship U's with great engineering programs, it is not that easy to get in from "general admission". I personally would not send my kid somewhere they are not guaranteed to actually major in what they want---not a fan of direct admission unless it's "to the engineering school and you can then select any major you want and switch if needed".

It's been posted multiple times here that this sort of transfer is easy as long as you get decent grades.... you are not competing, just meeting a pre-stated requirement on paper.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I did not read the entire thread, but I hope you are staying positive for your kid. He has some excellent admittances and I would not be surprised if he gets offered a spot at Purdue.

UT Austin, Rice, and University of Washington were never going to happen. Georgia Tech is a toss up, but probably also a "no". Wisconsin seems like he should have a good shot.

I went through this with my kid last year. You need to be VERY positive about all of his acceptances and remind him why he likes those schools.

Huh. Why?? (not OP).

The kid has PERFECT stats.