So does everything have to be YIMBY vs NIMBY now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with this entire debate in DC and MD is that everyone focuses on building more housing in what apparently are considered desirable areas. Maybe, the best approach is to create more desirable areas, rather that squeezing more folks in limited space. Wards 7 and 8 residents regularly (and rightfully) complain about lack of development there. So, lets do more development there, improving their quality of life and making their neighborhoods more desirable.

Have you been to Anacostia, Congress Heights, Deanwood or Hillcrest recently? Because your suggestion demonstrates a lack of knowledge of what is going on on the ground in those Ward 7 and Wad 8 neighborhoods.

I mean, their post is literally just "why can't we shunt all the poors to the other side of the city so I don't have to look at them or even acknowledge they exist."

Of course they have no idea what's going on over here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just because you build more houses doesn't mean prices necessarily fall. They could also go up as a result of more housing. Look at Navy Yard. Hardly anyone lived there 10 years ago. Now it's one of the most densely populated parts of the city. Because there's so many people there, lots of coffee shops and restaurants and other businesses want to be there too. Because they're there, many more people want to live there too. So prices go up because demand is going up and demand is going up because supply went up. Economics doesn't always work like the simple models you learned in seventh grade.

This is why it costs way more to live on U Street than it does in Shepherd Park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with this entire debate in DC and MD is that everyone focuses on building more housing in what apparently are considered desirable areas. Maybe, the best approach is to create more desirable areas, rather that squeezing more folks in limited space. Wards 7 and 8 residents regularly (and rightfully) complain about lack of development there. So, lets do more development there, improving their quality of life and making their neighborhoods more desirable.

Have you been to Anacostia, Congress Heights, Deanwood or Hillcrest recently? Because your suggestion demonstrates a lack of knowledge of what is going on on the ground in those Ward 7 and Wad 8 neighborhoods.

You can buy a house in Anacostia for $450,000. All the entitled white guys whining about zoning laws want to live though in Ward 3, not Anacostia, and I think we all know why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with this entire debate in DC and MD is that everyone focuses on building more housing in what apparently are considered desirable areas. Maybe, the best approach is to create more desirable areas, rather that squeezing more folks in limited space. Wards 7 and 8 residents regularly (and rightfully) complain about lack of development there. So, lets do more development there, improving their quality of life and making their neighborhoods more desirable.

Have you been to Anacostia, Congress Heights, Deanwood or Hillcrest recently? Because your suggestion demonstrates a lack of knowledge of what is going on on the ground in those Ward 7 and Wad 8 neighborhoods.

You can buy a house in Anacostia for $450,000. All the entitled white guys whining about zoning laws want to live though in Ward 3, not Anacostia, and I think we all know why.

Lets improve Wards 7 and 8, which benefits current and future residents and has a better chance of attracting businesses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with this entire debate in DC and MD is that everyone focuses on building more housing in what apparently are considered desirable areas. Maybe, the best approach is to create more desirable areas, rather that squeezing more folks in limited space. Wards 7 and 8 residents regularly (and rightfully) complain about lack of development there. So, lets do more development there, improving their quality of life and making their neighborhoods more desirable.

Have you been to Anacostia, Congress Heights, Deanwood or Hillcrest recently? Because your suggestion demonstrates a lack of knowledge of what is going on on the ground in those Ward 7 and Wad 8 neighborhoods.

You can buy a house in Anacostia for $450,000. All the entitled white guys whining about zoning laws want to live though in Ward 3, not Anacostia, and I think we all know why.

Lots of affordable housing in PG County too. You can buy a house a couple blocks from the D.C. border for $350,000. Of course, they turn their nose up at that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with this entire debate in DC and MD is that everyone focuses on building more housing in what apparently are considered desirable areas. Maybe, the best approach is to create more desirable areas, rather that squeezing more folks in limited space. Wards 7 and 8 residents regularly (and rightfully) complain about lack of development there. So, lets do more development there, improving their quality of life and making their neighborhoods more desirable.

Have you been to Anacostia, Congress Heights, Deanwood or Hillcrest recently? Because your suggestion demonstrates a lack of knowledge of what is going on on the ground in those Ward 7 and Wad 8 neighborhoods.

You can buy a house in Anacostia for $450,000. All the entitled white guys whining about zoning laws want to live though in Ward 3, not Anacostia, and I think we all know why.

Stupid white guys, lol! They ruin everything. Who want to live in Ward 3? It’s so dumb lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with this entire debate in DC and MD is that everyone focuses on building more housing in what apparently are considered desirable areas. Maybe, the best approach is to create more desirable areas, rather that squeezing more folks in limited space. Wards 7 and 8 residents regularly (and rightfully) complain about lack of development there. So, lets do more development there, improving their quality of life and making their neighborhoods more desirable.

Have you been to Anacostia, Congress Heights, Deanwood or Hillcrest recently? Because your suggestion demonstrates a lack of knowledge of what is going on on the ground in those Ward 7 and Wad 8 neighborhoods.

You can buy a house in Anacostia for $450,000. All the entitled white guys whining about zoning laws want to live though in Ward 3, not Anacostia, and I think we all know why.

Lots of affordable housing in PG County too. You can buy a house a couple blocks from the D.C. border for $350,000. Of course, they turn their nose up at that.

And how are the schools, crime, walkability? You know, things that might factor into the equation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people on this thread with champagne tastes who are on beer budgets.

This thread is unnerving in the sense that there are a bunch of posters with lofty ideals who think “housing should be a right”. I’m really concerned the younger generation has eaten up a bunch of socialist values masquerading as “equity” proposals.

If you can’t afford a $4m house in a ritzy area, I’m sorry. It’s not in the cards. You don’t need to cram a fking project in a historic neighborhood. Just make a bad neighborhood that’s cheaper, better. But then that’s gentrification and that bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with this entire debate in DC and MD is that everyone focuses on building more housing in what apparently are considered desirable areas. Maybe, the best approach is to create more desirable areas, rather that squeezing more folks in limited space. Wards 7 and 8 residents regularly (and rightfully) complain about lack of development there. So, lets do more development there, improving their quality of life and making their neighborhoods more desirable.

Have you been to Anacostia, Congress Heights, Deanwood or Hillcrest recently? Because your suggestion demonstrates a lack of knowledge of what is going on on the ground in those Ward 7 and Wad 8 neighborhoods.

You can buy a house in Anacostia for $450,000. All the entitled white guys whining about zoning laws want to live though in Ward 3, not Anacostia, and I think we all know why.

Lots of affordable housing in PG County too. You can buy a house a couple blocks from the D.C. border for $350,000. Of course, they turn their nose up at that.

Eventually Anacostia and PG County and everywhere else will be completely gentrified and then they'll complain they can't afford to live there either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with this entire debate in DC and MD is that everyone focuses on building more housing in what apparently are considered desirable areas. Maybe, the best approach is to create more desirable areas, rather that squeezing more folks in limited space. Wards 7 and 8 residents regularly (and rightfully) complain about lack of development there. So, lets do more development there, improving their quality of life and making their neighborhoods more desirable.

Have you been to Anacostia, Congress Heights, Deanwood or Hillcrest recently? Because your suggestion demonstrates a lack of knowledge of what is going on on the ground in those Ward 7 and Wad 8 neighborhoods.

You can buy a house in Anacostia for $450,000. All the entitled white guys whining about zoning laws want to live though in Ward 3, not Anacostia, and I think we all know why.

Lots of affordable housing in PG County too. You can buy a house a couple blocks from the D.C. border for $350,000. Of course, they turn their nose up at that.

And how are the schools, crime, walkability? You know, things that might factor into the equation.

And where's my BMW? It's so unfair that I can only afford a Chevy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with this entire debate in DC and MD is that everyone focuses on building more housing in what apparently are considered desirable areas. Maybe, the best approach is to create more desirable areas, rather that squeezing more folks in limited space. Wards 7 and 8 residents regularly (and rightfully) complain about lack of development there. So, lets do more development there, improving their quality of life and making their neighborhoods more desirable.

Have you been to Anacostia, Congress Heights, Deanwood or Hillcrest recently? Because your suggestion demonstrates a lack of knowledge of what is going on on the ground in those Ward 7 and Wad 8 neighborhoods.

You can buy a house in Anacostia for $450,000. All the entitled white guys whining about zoning laws want to live though in Ward 3, not Anacostia, and I think we all know why.

Lots of affordable housing in PG County too. You can buy a house a couple blocks from the D.C. border for $350,000. Of course, they turn their nose up at that.

And how are the schools, crime, walkability? You know, things that might factor into the equation.

You sound very young. I hate to break it to you, but you're going to have to compromise. You're not going to get everything you want. That's life, especially in a city with a f*ckton of people.

Also, since you sound so young, any new housing they create in Ward 3 will be bought or rented by parents who have more money than you do and who will do anything to get their kids into Ward 3 schools. They will easily outbid you for anything that comes on the market.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people on this thread with champagne tastes who are on beer budgets.

This thread is unnerving in the sense that there are a bunch of posters with lofty ideals who think “housing should be a right”. I’m really concerned the younger generation has eaten up a bunch of socialist values masquerading as “equity” proposals.

If you can’t afford a $4m house in a ritzy area, I’m sorry. It’s not in the cards. You don’t need to cram a fking project in a historic neighborhood. Just make a bad neighborhood that’s cheaper, better. But then that’s gentrification and that bad.

The Smart Growth lobby plays on that. They tell DC politicians that they can make gentrification pressures go away if only they let developers turn Ward 3 into the Navy Yard. That way, residents who "aren't from DC" won't need to move into other neighborhoods. Not only is that offensive, it's also likely not correct. It's not like Cathedral Commons in upper Northwest is considered as cool as U Street or H Street, nor it is (or "pale" replications thereof) ever likely to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people on this thread with champagne tastes who are on beer budgets.

This thread is unnerving in the sense that there are a bunch of posters with lofty ideals who think “housing should be a right”. I’m really concerned the younger generation has eaten up a bunch of socialist values masquerading as “equity” proposals.

If you can’t afford a $4m house in a ritzy area, I’m sorry. It’s not in the cards. You don’t need to cram a fking project in a historic neighborhood. Just make a bad neighborhood that’s cheaper, better. But then that’s gentrification and that bad.

A bunch of socialist values masquerading as "equity" proposals, repackaged and sold by Trumpy Smart Growth operatives to benefit their big development clients.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with this entire debate in DC and MD is that everyone focuses on building more housing in what apparently are considered desirable areas. Maybe, the best approach is to create more desirable areas, rather that squeezing more folks in limited space. Wards 7 and 8 residents regularly (and rightfully) complain about lack of development there. So, lets do more development there, improving their quality of life and making their neighborhoods more desirable.

Have you been to Anacostia, Congress Heights, Deanwood or Hillcrest recently? Because your suggestion demonstrates a lack of knowledge of what is going on on the ground in those Ward 7 and Wad 8 neighborhoods.

You can buy a house in Anacostia for $450,000. All the entitled white guys whining about zoning laws want to live though in Ward 3, not Anacostia, and I think we all know why.

Lots of affordable housing in PG County too. You can buy a house a couple blocks from the D.C. border for $350,000. Of course, they turn their nose up at that.

And how are the schools, crime, walkability? You know, things that might factor into the equation.

You sound very young. I hate to break it to you, but you're going to have to compromise. You're not going to get everything you want. That's life, especially in a city with a f*ckton of people.

Also, since you sound so young, any new housing they create in Ward 3 will be bought or rented by parents who have more money than you do and who will do anything to get their kids into Ward 3 schools. They will easily outbid you for anything that comes on the market.

Ma’am this is a Wendy’s.

My post was satirical, but in the immortal words of the dude “I take it you’re not a golfer”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with this entire debate in DC and MD is that everyone focuses on building more housing in what apparently are considered desirable areas. Maybe, the best approach is to create more desirable areas, rather that squeezing more folks in limited space. Wards 7 and 8 residents regularly (and rightfully) complain about lack of development there. So, lets do more development there, improving their quality of life and making their neighborhoods more desirable.

Have you been to Anacostia, Congress Heights, Deanwood or Hillcrest recently? Because your suggestion demonstrates a lack of knowledge of what is going on on the ground in those Ward 7 and Wad 8 neighborhoods.

You can buy a house in Anacostia for $450,000. All the entitled white guys whining about zoning laws want to live though in Ward 3, not Anacostia, and I think we all know why.

Lots of affordable housing in PG County too. You can buy a house a couple blocks from the D.C. border for $350,000. Of course, they turn their nose up at that.

And how are the schools, crime, walkability? You know, things that might factor into the equation.

You sound very young. I hate to break it to you, but you're going to have to compromise. You're not going to get everything you want. That's life, especially in a city with a f*ckton of people.

Also, since you sound so young, any new housing they create in Ward 3 will be bought or rented by parents who have more money than you do and who will do anything to get their kids into Ward 3 schools. They will easily outbid you for anything that comes on the market.

Ma’am this is a Wendy’s.

My post was satirical, but in the immortal words of the dude “I take it you’re not a golfer”.

It's either not satire or you're terrible at satire. I'm guessing the former.