BASIS: PCSB staff recommends conditional continuance due to SWD

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Anonymous wrote:Not doubting what anyone has to say about the law with respect to SN kids.

But can y’all just leave basis alone? The vast majority of schools in dcps devote a tremendous portion of their resources to the kids who struggle. Those of us with kids who are capable of excelling academically know to keep our mouths shut through all of elementary, knowing that the limited resources must be focused on other kids.

But basis provides an opportunity for academic excellence for those who are not IB for deal. In exchange these families put up with insane homework, crap facilities, mediocre extra-curriculars, and high staff turnover, just to get their kids the academic challenge that dcps would never provide. Can y’all just leave these families alone and take your IEPs elsewhere?

this has got to be one of the ugliest things I’ve seen on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:But is it discrimination against other SN to advertise that BASIS could be a very good fit for kids with SN that make them pretty rigid?

If they're advertising in a way that suggests they will only support specific disabilities or profiles, then yes, that would be extremely problematic. You see private schools and camps advertise in that way and it's clearly meant to exclude kids with higher support/perceived higher support needs, as well as, frankly, kids with autism who are "too" autistic.

Remember just because Basis is a charter does not mean they are exempt from supporting kids with SN of all levels. They can't just pick and chose. The Charter Board pointed out that Basis has basically no higher-needs kids.

The SN boosters here are missing the point altogether in their zeal and assumptions.

The point is that Basis would likely make a great fit for any student who does well with structure, clear expectations, focus on individual work, lots of emphasis on organization and concrete curriculums. Many kids with HFA would fit the bill.

Emphasising those strengths and talking about how this kind of learning can benefit some students would be a way to message that out to families with all types of kids, including HFA or others and might encourage kids who otherwise wouldn't think to apply.

"SN Booster"? Really? Forgive me for having "zeal and assumptions" as I attempt to ensure my child with disabilities gets an education.

As much as you want Basis to be exempt from special education laws, it is not. It would be great if Basis established and funded an HFA program and advertised it. That doesn't allow it to screen for certain disabilities and levels of disabilities. Clearly Basis has a serious issue retaining and serving kids with disabilities. Falling back on "oh the few we have do well" does not fix that problem.

Do you feel a school focused on AP test prep would benefit your SN child? If so, apply. I have a non SN child, and because of the above would skip Basis for our family. Different strokes for differenr folks.

Sure, it could benefit him if it had the right supports in place. That's the whole point of special education. My SN kid likes tests. But he also needs social skills support, some support with organization, a behavioral plan ...

So he has something like Aspbergers, executive functioning challenges and needs an IEP? I would imagine most any school in Basis tier can support him well (not solve,.since it's not a problem to be solved, but support). Does this otherwise describe him (from Basis website): "BASIS DC students are hungry for challenge, curious about the world around them, and unafraid of the extra effort required to meet and exceed the high standards of BASIS Curriculum Schools". If so, why not contact the school instead of going off a bunch of heresay?

It's not "hearsay." It's the informed opinion of multiple therapists/medical professionals who talk to a lot of families on the Hill, which is a main source of Basis students. I'll go to the open houses, but the informed opinions plus the Charter Board's actions absolutely give me pause. If Basis responses in a legitimate and transparent way and staffs up their special ed team, maybe. As it stands now, I can't even find the name of the special ed coordinator on their website.

Why not contact the school and ask?.seems like you are willing to do a lot of legwork. and except the most obvious?

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Anonymous wrote:But is it discrimination against other SN to advertise that BASIS could be a very good fit for kids with SN that make them pretty rigid?

If they're advertising in a way that suggests they will only support specific disabilities or profiles, then yes, that would be extremely problematic. You see private schools and camps advertise in that way and it's clearly meant to exclude kids with higher support/perceived higher support needs, as well as, frankly, kids with autism who are "too" autistic.

Remember just because Basis is a charter does not mean they are exempt from supporting kids with SN of all levels. They can't just pick and chose. The Charter Board pointed out that Basis has basically no higher-needs kids.

The SN boosters here are missing the point altogether in their zeal and assumptions.

The point is that Basis would likely make a great fit for any student who does well with structure, clear expectations, focus on individual work, lots of emphasis on organization and concrete curriculums. Many kids with HFA would fit the bill.

Emphasising those strengths and talking about how this kind of learning can benefit some students would be a way to message that out to families with all types of kids, including HFA or others and might encourage kids who otherwise wouldn't think to apply.

"SN Booster"? Really? Forgive me for having "zeal and assumptions" as I attempt to ensure my child with disabilities gets an education.

As much as you want Basis to be exempt from special education laws, it is not. It would be great if Basis established and funded an HFA program and advertised it. That doesn't allow it to screen for certain disabilities and levels of disabilities. Clearly Basis has a serious issue retaining and serving kids with disabilities. Falling back on "oh the few we have do well" does not fix that problem.

Do you feel a school focused on AP test prep would benefit your SN child? If so, apply. I have a non SN child, and because of the above would skip Basis for our family. Different strokes for differenr folks.

Sure, it could benefit him if it had the right supports in place. That's the whole point of special education. My SN kid likes tests. But he also needs social skills support, some support with organization, a behavioral plan ...

So he has something like Aspbergers, executive functioning challenges and needs an IEP? I would imagine most any school in Basis tier can support him well (not solve,.since it's not a problem to be solved, but support). Does this otherwise describe him (from Basis website): "BASIS DC students are hungry for challenge, curious about the world around them, and unafraid of the extra effort required to meet and exceed the high standards of BASIS Curriculum Schools". If so, why not contact the school instead of going off a bunch of heresay?

It's not "hearsay." It's the informed opinion of multiple therapists/medical professionals who talk to a lot of families on the Hill, which is a main source of Basis students. I'll go to the open houses, but the informed opinions plus the Charter Board's actions absolutely give me pause. If Basis responses in a legitimate and transparent way and staffs up their special ed team, maybe. As it stands now, I can't even find the name of the special ed coordinator on their website.

Why not contact the school and ask?.seems like you are willing to do a lot of legwork. and except the most obvious?

Because the school will not tell you the truth. Indeed it would be illegal for them to say anything that would deter SN parents from enrolling.

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BASIS fans, why did the school not apply for the at-risk lottery preference?

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Because not everyone thinks that catering to the at risk community should be a school’s top priority. All this focus on at risk is going to destroy the public schools. Those of us with kids who are not at risk will find other options if the public schools won’t provide for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Not doubting what anyone has to say about the law with respect to SN kids.

But can y’all just leave basis alone? The vast majority of schools in dcps devote a tremendous portion of their resources to the kids who struggle. Those of us with kids who are capable of excelling academically know to keep our mouths shut through all of elementary, knowing that the limited resources must be focused on other kids.

But basis provides an opportunity for academic excellence for those who are not IB for deal. In exchange these families put up with insane homework, crap facilities, mediocre extra-curriculars, and high staff turnover, just to get their kids the academic challenge that dcps would never provide. Can y’all just leave these families alone and take your IEPs elsewhere?

You do realize that my BASIS child with an IEP has consistently been on the distinguished honor roll? Has yours?

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Anonymous wrote:Because not everyone thinks that catering to the at risk community should be a school’s top priority. All this focus on at risk is going to destroy the public schools. Those of us with kids who are not at risk will find other options if the public schools won’t provide for them.

+1. It just hurts the at risk kids the most as families with options leave. DCPS caters to the bottom performing kids and could care less about meeting the academic needs of the other kids who are higher performing.

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Anonymous wrote:Not doubting what anyone has to say about the law with respect to SN kids.

But can y’all just leave basis alone? The vast majority of schools in dcps devote a tremendous portion of their resources to the kids who struggle. Those of us with kids who are capable of excelling academically know to keep our mouths shut through all of elementary, knowing that the limited resources must be focused on other kids.

But basis provides an opportunity for academic excellence for those who are not IB for deal. In exchange these families put up with insane homework, crap facilities, mediocre extra-curriculars, and high staff turnover, just to get their kids the academic challenge that dcps would never provide. Can y’all just leave these families alone and take your IEPs elsewhere?

You do realize that my BASIS child with an IEP has consistently been on the distinguished honor roll? Has yours?

That’s awesome!

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Anonymous wrote:Because not everyone thinks that catering to the at risk community should be a school’s top priority. All this focus on at risk is going to destroy the public schools. Those of us with kids who are not at risk will find other options if the public schools won’t provide for them.

IDEA and sec 504 apply to all public schools so good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:Not doubting what anyone has to say about the law with respect to SN kids.

But can y’all just leave basis alone? The vast majority of schools in dcps devote a tremendous portion of their resources to the kids who struggle. Those of us with kids who are capable of excelling academically know to keep our mouths shut through all of elementary, knowing that the limited resources must be focused on other kids.

But basis provides an opportunity for academic excellence for those who are not IB for deal. In exchange these families put up with insane homework, crap facilities, mediocre extra-curriculars, and high staff turnover, just to get their kids the academic challenge that dcps would never provide. Can y’all just leave these families alone and take your IEPs elsewhere?

You do realize that my BASIS child with an IEP has consistently been on the distinguished honor roll? Has yours?

sorry you had to read that PP. I’ve been the PP here critical of Basis and I am very happy your kid is thriving. As you know, other parents don’t have a clue. the right focus here is on Basis, which needs to step it up to make sure your son continues to get what he needs and other kids do too.

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Anonymous wrote:Not doubting what anyone has to say about the law with respect to SN kids.

But can y’all just leave basis alone? The vast majority of schools in dcps devote a tremendous portion of their resources to the kids who struggle. Those of us with kids who are capable of excelling academically know to keep our mouths shut through all of elementary, knowing that the limited resources must be focused on other kids.

But basis provides an opportunity for academic excellence for those who are not IB for deal. In exchange these families put up with insane homework, crap facilities, mediocre extra-curriculars, and high staff turnover, just to get their kids the academic challenge that dcps would never provide. Can y’all just leave these families alone and take your IEPs elsewhere?

You do realize that my BASIS child with an IEP has consistently been on the distinguished honor roll? Has yours?

sorry you had to read that PP. I’ve been the PP here critical of Basis and I am very happy your kid is thriving. As you know, other parents don’t have a clue. the right focus here is on Basis, which needs to step it up to make sure your son continues to get what he needs and other kids do too.

Wow. You just missed PP’s point, PP.

Wooosh….

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Anonymous wrote:But is it discrimination against other SN to advertise that BASIS could be a very good fit for kids with SN that make them pretty rigid?

If they're advertising in a way that suggests they will only support specific disabilities or profiles, then yes, that would be extremely problematic. You see private schools and camps advertise in that way and it's clearly meant to exclude kids with higher support/perceived higher support needs, as well as, frankly, kids with autism who are "too" autistic.

Remember just because Basis is a charter does not mean they are exempt from supporting kids with SN of all levels. They can't just pick and chose. The Charter Board pointed out that Basis has basically no higher-needs kids.

The SN boosters here are missing the point altogether in their zeal and assumptions.

The point is that Basis would likely make a great fit for any student who does well with structure, clear expectations, focus on individual work, lots of emphasis on organization and concrete curriculums. Many kids with HFA would fit the bill.

Emphasising those strengths and talking about how this kind of learning can benefit some students would be a way to message that out to families with all types of kids, including HFA or others and might encourage kids who otherwise wouldn't think to apply.

"SN Booster"? Really? Forgive me for having "zeal and assumptions" as I attempt to ensure my child with disabilities gets an education.

As much as you want Basis to be exempt from special education laws, it is not. It would be great if Basis established and funded an HFA program and advertised it. That doesn't allow it to screen for certain disabilities and levels of disabilities. Clearly Basis has a serious issue retaining and serving kids with disabilities. Falling back on "oh the few we have do well" does not fix that problem.

Do you feel a school focused on AP test prep would benefit your SN child? If so, apply. I have a non SN child, and because of the above would skip Basis for our family. Different strokes for differenr folks.

Sure, it could benefit him if it had the right supports in place. That's the whole point of special education. My SN kid likes tests. But he also needs social skills support, some support with organization, a behavioral plan ...

So he has something like Aspbergers, executive functioning challenges and needs an IEP? I would imagine most any school in Basis tier can support him well (not solve,.since it's not a problem to be solved, but support). Does this otherwise describe him (from Basis website): "BASIS DC students are hungry for challenge, curious about the world around them, and unafraid of the extra effort required to meet and exceed the high standards of BASIS Curriculum Schools". If so, why not contact the school instead of going off a bunch of heresay?

It's not "hearsay." It's the informed opinion of multiple therapists/medical professionals who talk to a lot of families on the Hill, which is a main source of Basis students. I'll go to the open houses, but the informed opinions plus the Charter Board's actions absolutely give me pause. If Basis responses in a legitimate and transparent way and staffs up their special ed team, maybe. As it stands now, I can't even find the name of the special ed coordinator on their website.

Basis isn’t a good fit for some kids. A kid that isn’t into academics and wants to play big-league varsity football won’t do well at Basis. He can get all the support he wants but it will be a slog for him and his parents

The same is true for SPED kids. As you can see from the comments, some SPED kids do great at Basis. Many of these are HFA or ADHD but there is a variety of disabilities there. Other SPED kids won’t do well. But that is not because they are disabled but because they would do better in a less rigorous school.

Sure, Basis (like other schools) can and should do a better job on SPED issues. But the “violations” laid out in the 10-year report are pretty minor, along the lines of not requiring teachers to do a webinar about how to recognize SPED.

Basis could provide all the services it can to put a SPED kid on par with a non-SPED kid but that doesn’t change the rigor of the Basis curriculum, the amount of work kids have to do and the level of that work, the pre-comps and comps, and the lack of social promotion (i.e., moving kids to the next grade level even though they fail a course). All kids, SPED and non-SPED, would have it easier at another school. IDEA just levels the playing field; it doesn’t transform your kid into something he or she is not.

Given your many posts here about your kid and your negative views about Basis, it might make sense to consider another school. Just something to think about.

As the old expression has it: be careful what you wish for.

Good luck with your choice.

Nailed it! Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:Not doubting what anyone has to say about the law with respect to SN kids.

But can y’all just leave basis alone? The vast majority of schools in dcps devote a tremendous portion of their resources to the kids who struggle. Those of us with kids who are capable of excelling academically know to keep our mouths shut through all of elementary, knowing that the limited resources must be focused on other kids.

But basis provides an opportunity for academic excellence for those who are not IB for deal. In exchange these families put up with insane homework, crap facilities, mediocre extra-curriculars, and high staff turnover, just to get their kids the academic challenge that dcps would never provide. Can y’all just leave these families alone and take your IEPs elsewhere?

You do realize that my BASIS child with an IEP has consistently been on the distinguished honor roll? Has yours?

sorry you had to read that PP. I’ve been the PP here critical of Basis and I am very happy your kid is thriving. As you know, other parents don’t have a clue. the right focus here is on Basis, which needs to step it up to make sure your son continues to get what he needs and other kids do too.

Wow. You just missed PP’s point, PP.

Wooosh….

PP’s point was quite clear - “take your IEPs elsewhere” in a thread that includes a mom talking about her child with autism’s success at Basis. That’s some of the worst and meanest stuff I’ve seen posted on DCUM ever and I have been here a long time.

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Anonymous wrote:But is it discrimination against other SN to advertise that BASIS could be a very good fit for kids with SN that make them pretty rigid?

If they're advertising in a way that suggests they will only support specific disabilities or profiles, then yes, that would be extremely problematic. You see private schools and camps advertise in that way and it's clearly meant to exclude kids with higher support/perceived higher support needs, as well as, frankly, kids with autism who are "too" autistic.

Remember just because Basis is a charter does not mean they are exempt from supporting kids with SN of all levels. They can't just pick and chose. The Charter Board pointed out that Basis has basically no higher-needs kids.

The SN boosters here are missing the point altogether in their zeal and assumptions.

The point is that Basis would likely make a great fit for any student who does well with structure, clear expectations, focus on individual work, lots of emphasis on organization and concrete curriculums. Many kids with HFA would fit the bill.

Emphasising those strengths and talking about how this kind of learning can benefit some students would be a way to message that out to families with all types of kids, including HFA or others and might encourage kids who otherwise wouldn't think to apply.

"SN Booster"? Really? Forgive me for having "zeal and assumptions" as I attempt to ensure my child with disabilities gets an education.

As much as you want Basis to be exempt from special education laws, it is not. It would be great if Basis established and funded an HFA program and advertised it. That doesn't allow it to screen for certain disabilities and levels of disabilities. Clearly Basis has a serious issue retaining and serving kids with disabilities. Falling back on "oh the few we have do well" does not fix that problem.

Do you feel a school focused on AP test prep would benefit your SN child? If so, apply. I have a non SN child, and because of the above would skip Basis for our family. Different strokes for differenr folks.

Sure, it could benefit him if it had the right supports in place. That's the whole point of special education. My SN kid likes tests. But he also needs social skills support, some support with organization, a behavioral plan ...

So he has something like Aspbergers, executive functioning challenges and needs an IEP? I would imagine most any school in Basis tier can support him well (not solve,.since it's not a problem to be solved, but support). Does this otherwise describe him (from Basis website): "BASIS DC students are hungry for challenge, curious about the world around them, and unafraid of the extra effort required to meet and exceed the high standards of BASIS Curriculum Schools". If so, why not contact the school instead of going off a bunch of heresay?

It's not "hearsay." It's the informed opinion of multiple therapists/medical professionals who talk to a lot of families on the Hill, which is a main source of Basis students. I'll go to the open houses, but the informed opinions plus the Charter Board's actions absolutely give me pause. If Basis responses in a legitimate and transparent way and staffs up their special ed team, maybe. As it stands now, I can't even find the name of the special ed coordinator on their website.

Basis isn’t a good fit for some kids. A kid that isn’t into academics and wants to play big-league varsity football won’t do well at Basis. He can get all the support he wants but it will be a slog for him and his parents

The same is true for SPED kids. As you can see from the comments, some SPED kids do great at Basis. Many of these are HFA or ADHD but there is a variety of disabilities there. Other SPED kids won’t do well. But that is not because they are disabled but because they would do better in a less rigorous school.

Sure, Basis (like other schools) can and should do a better job on SPED issues. But the “violations” laid out in the 10-year report are pretty minor, along the lines of not requiring teachers to do a webinar about how to recognize SPED.

Basis could provide all the services it can to put a SPED kid on par with a non-SPED kid but that doesn’t change the rigor of the Basis curriculum, the amount of work kids have to do and the level of that work, the pre-comps and comps, and the lack of social promotion (i.e., moving kids to the next grade level even though they fail a course). All kids, SPED and non-SPED, would have it easier at another school. IDEA just levels the playing field; it doesn’t transform your kid into something he or she is not.

Given your many posts here about your kid and your negative views about Basis, it might make sense to consider another school. Just something to think about.

As the old expression has it: be careful what you wish for.

Good luck with your choice.

Nailed it! Thank you.

right nailed it … the charter is at risk just due to some mere technicalities. meanwhile you have Basis boosters on this thread openlu saying kids with disabilities should “go elsewhere” and that federal disability law should not apply to Basis. You guys are not doing Basis ANY favors here.

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Anonymous wrote:Not doubting what anyone has to say about the law with respect to SN kids.

But can y’all just leave basis alone? The vast majority of schools in dcps devote a tremendous portion of their resources to the kids who struggle. Those of us with kids who are capable of excelling academically know to keep our mouths shut through all of elementary, knowing that the limited resources must be focused on other kids.

But basis provides an opportunity for academic excellence for those who are not IB for deal. In exchange these families put up with insane homework, crap facilities, mediocre extra-curriculars, and high staff turnover, just to get their kids the academic challenge that dcps would never provide. Can y’all just leave these families alone and take your IEPs elsewhere?

You do realize that my BASIS child with an IEP has consistently been on the distinguished honor roll? Has yours?

sorry you had to read that PP. I’ve been the PP here critical of Basis and I am very happy your kid is thriving. As you know, other parents don’t have a clue. the right focus here is on Basis, which needs to step it up to make sure your son continues to get what he needs and other kids do too.

Wow. You just missed PP’s point, PP.

Wooosh….

PP’s point was quite clear - “take your IEPs elsewhere” in a thread that includes a mom talking about her child with autism’s success at Basis. That’s some of the worst and meanest stuff I’ve seen posted on DCUM ever and I have been here a long time.

No, you both missed the point about how a kid with an IEP is near the top of his/her BASIS class because he/she is (obviously) getting the support he/she needs. The point is that plenty of SPED kids do great at BASIS and, as noted in the 10-year report, they do better at BASIS than other DC charters. Are y'all really so clueless?