Elementary school boundary studies

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The way that area is laid out, and schools are distributed, SOMEONE was always going to have a bus ride. If those folks wanted walkable schools, there are a lot of them in East County, but they chose to live in the countryside/exurbia and that means riding the bus.

For what it is worth, the boundary study did produced at least one option that would have elicited more diversity, and it was not chosen. So much for the "Diversity First" policy.

Plus they already had a bus ride.

It's actually possible to live in Clarksburg and be a walker for the entire time in MCPS: Snowden Farm ES, Hallie Wells ES, Clarksburg HS. But if you live in Cabin Branch, your children are going to get bused at least to middle school and high school, no matter what middle school and high school you're assigned to.

Ah, yes. The "they're already on a bus" argument. One BOE member said about busing "once kids are already on a bus, what difference does it make how far that bus goes?" This shows just how tone deaf the diversity-obsessed members of the BOE are about race-balancing the schools at the expense of proximity. 90+ percent of the county values proximity over all the other factors.

Yep. You know why? BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY ON A BUS. If you think school bus rides are damaging to kids, then you should work on making school zones more walkable.

+100 There's an article in today's WaPo that talks about schools in the East County where every single kid is a bus rider or car rider because the roads are too dangerous to walk on. Decades of systemic under-investment means that the pedestrian-friendly streets that have become the norm around the county simply do not exist where these (mostly poor, Black, and Latino) kids live.

Oh, and as for Clarksville, I seem to recall that the most significant shift - the absolute outer case - was that kids who were already riding a bus 5 miles had to ride for 6.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The way that area is laid out, and schools are distributed, SOMEONE was always going to have a bus ride. If those folks wanted walkable schools, there are a lot of them in East County, but they chose to live in the countryside/exurbia and that means riding the bus.

For what it is worth, the boundary study did produced at least one option that would have elicited more diversity, and it was not chosen. So much for the "Diversity First" policy.

Plus they already had a bus ride.

It's actually possible to live in Clarksburg and be a walker for the entire time in MCPS: Snowden Farm ES, Hallie Wells ES, Clarksburg HS. But if you live in Cabin Branch, your children are going to get bused at least to middle school and high school, no matter what middle school and high school you're assigned to.

Ah, yes. The "they're already on a bus" argument. One BOE member said about busing "once kids are already on a bus, what difference does it make how far that bus goes?" This shows just how tone deaf the diversity-obsessed members of the BOE are about race-balancing the schools at the expense of proximity. 90+ percent of the county values proximity over all the other factors.

Yep. You know why? BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY ON A BUS. If you think school bus rides are damaging to kids, then you should work on making school zones more walkable.

+100 There's an article in today's WaPo that talks about schools in the East County where every single kid is a bus rider or car rider because the roads are too dangerous to walk on. Decades of systemic under-investment means that the pedestrian-friendly streets that have become the norm around the county simply do not exist where these (mostly poor, Black, and Latino) kids live.

Oh, and as for Clarksville, I seem to recall that the most significant shift - the absolute outer case - was that kids who were already riding a bus 5 miles had to ride for 6.

Clarksville? Isn't that in Howard county?

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^^^PP meant Clarksburg. People do that a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^PP meant Clarksburg. People do that a lot.

Ahh. Well PP also got the mileage incorrect. The kids didn't go from 5 miles to 6 miles. That's hilarious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^PP meant Clarksburg. People do that a lot.

Ahh. Well PP also got the mileage incorrect. The kids didn't go from 5 miles to 6 miles. That's hilarious.

Cabin Branch ES site to Rocky Hill MS: 3.1 miles
Cabin Branch ES site to Neelsville MS: 5.2 miles

Slidell Road/West Old Baltimore Road to Rocky Hill MS: 6.3 miles
Slidell Road/West Old Baltimore Road to Neelsville MS: 8.4 miles

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^PP meant Clarksburg. People do that a lot.

Ahh. Well PP also got the mileage incorrect. The kids didn't go from 5 miles to 6 miles. That's hilarious.

Cabin Branch ES site to Rocky Hill MS: 3.1 miles
Cabin Branch ES site to Neelsville MS: 5.2 miles

Slidell Road/West Old Baltimore Road to Rocky Hill MS: 6.3 miles
Slidell Road/West Old Baltimore Road to Neelsville MS: 8.4 miles

^^^Distances for someone I know, who was rezoned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and opposed the rezoning:

to Rocky Hill MS: 6.6 miles
to Neelsville MS: 6.5 miles

to Clarksburg HS: 6.5 miles
to Seneca Valley HS: 4.6 miles

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The way that area is laid out, and schools are distributed, SOMEONE was always going to have a bus ride. If those folks wanted walkable schools, there are a lot of them in East County, but they chose to live in the countryside/exurbia and that means riding the bus.

For what it is worth, the boundary study did produced at least one option that would have elicited more diversity, and it was not chosen. So much for the "Diversity First" policy.

Plus they already had a bus ride.

It's actually possible to live in Clarksburg and be a walker for the entire time in MCPS: Snowden Farm ES, Hallie Wells ES, Clarksburg HS. But if you live in Cabin Branch, your children are going to get bused at least to middle school and high school, no matter what middle school and high school you're assigned to.

Ah, yes. The "they're already on a bus" argument. One BOE member said about busing "once kids are already on a bus, what difference does it make how far that bus goes?" This shows just how tone deaf the diversity-obsessed members of the BOE are about race-balancing the schools at the expense of proximity. 90+ percent of the county values proximity over all the other factors.

Yep. You know why? BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY ON A BUS. If you think school bus rides are damaging to kids, then you should work on making school zones more walkable.

Exactly. 5 minute bus ride or 45 minute bus ride...it's all the same according to woke math.

[Anonymous]

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Exactly. 5 minute bus ride or 45 minute bus ride...it's all the same according to woke math.

Shouldn't kids who live within a five-minute bus ride from school be walking to school, instead of getting bused?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^PP meant Clarksburg. People do that a lot.

Ahh. Well PP also got the mileage incorrect. The kids didn't go from 5 miles to 6 miles. That's hilarious.

Cabin Branch ES site to Rocky Hill MS: 3.1 miles
Cabin Branch ES site to Neelsville MS: 5.2 miles

Slidell Road/West Old Baltimore Road to Rocky Hill MS: 6.3 miles
Slidell Road/West Old Baltimore Road to Neelsville MS: 8.4 miles

^^^Distances for someone I know, who was rezoned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and opposed the rezoning:

to Rocky Hill MS: 6.6 miles
to Neelsville MS: 6.5 miles

to Clarksburg HS: 6.5 miles
to Seneca Valley HS: 4.6 miles

That's someone in the Gibbs assignment area. Yes, the distance was not an issue for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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^^^Distances for someone I know, who was rezoned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and opposed the rezoning:

to Rocky Hill MS: 6.6 miles
to Neelsville MS: 6.5 miles

to Clarksburg HS: 6.5 miles
to Seneca Valley HS: 4.6 miles

That's someone in the Gibbs assignment area. Yes, the distance was not an issue for them.

Nope. In the Clarksburg ES service area.

Though yes, you're right, I also know plenty of people in the Gibbs service area who opposed the boundary change even though it was rezoning them to CLOSER schools.

[Anonymous]

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+100 There's an article in today's WaPo that talks about schools in the East County where every single kid is a bus rider or car rider because the roads are too dangerous to walk on. Decades of systemic under-investment means that the pedestrian-friendly streets that have become the norm around the county simply do not exist where these (mostly poor, Black, and Latino) kids live.

Oh, and as for Clarksville, I seem to recall that the most significant shift - the absolute outer case - was that kids who were already riding a bus 5 miles had to ride for 6.

Would you share a link to this article? I'm not seeing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

^^^Distances for someone I know, who was rezoned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and opposed the rezoning:

to Rocky Hill MS: 6.6 miles
to Neelsville MS: 6.5 miles

to Clarksburg HS: 6.5 miles
to Seneca Valley HS: 4.6 miles

That's someone in the Gibbs assignment area. Yes, the distance was not an issue for them.

Nope. In the Clarksburg ES service area.

Though yes, you're right, I also know plenty of people in the Gibbs service area who opposed the boundary change even though it was rezoning them to CLOSER schools.

These mileages do not make any sense. I don't know anyone living in the rezoned neighborhoods of Cabin Branch or BOyds (especially CB) who is 6.5 miles away from CHS. CB is 3 miles from CHS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

+100 There's an article in today's WaPo that talks about schools in the East County where every single kid is a bus rider or car rider because the roads are too dangerous to walk on. Decades of systemic under-investment means that the pedestrian-friendly streets that have become the norm around the county simply do not exist where these (mostly poor, Black, and Latino) kids live.

Oh, and as for Clarksville, I seem to recall that the most significant shift - the absolute outer case - was that kids who were already riding a bus 5 miles had to ride for 6.

Would you share a link to this article? I'm not seeing it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/11/10/montgomery-county-redistricting-east-election/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

^^^Distances for someone I know, who was rezoned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and opposed the rezoning:

to Rocky Hill MS: 6.6 miles
to Neelsville MS: 6.5 miles

to Clarksburg HS: 6.5 miles
to Seneca Valley HS: 4.6 miles

That's someone in the Gibbs assignment area. Yes, the distance was not an issue for them.

Nope. In the Clarksburg ES service area.

Though yes, you're right, I also know plenty of people in the Gibbs service area who opposed the boundary change even though it was rezoning them to CLOSER schools.

These mileages do not make any sense. I don't know anyone living in the rezoned neighborhoods of Cabin Branch or BOyds (especially CB) who is 6.5 miles away from CHS. CB is 3 miles from CHS.

Maybe not, but I do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

^^^Distances for someone I know, who was rezoned from Rocky Hill/Clarksburg to Neelsville/Seneca Valley, and opposed the rezoning:

to Rocky Hill MS: 6.6 miles
to Neelsville MS: 6.5 miles

to Clarksburg HS: 6.5 miles
to Seneca Valley HS: 4.6 miles

That's someone in the Gibbs assignment area. Yes, the distance was not an issue for them.

Nope. In the Clarksburg ES service area.

Though yes, you're right, I also know plenty of people in the Gibbs service area who opposed the boundary change even though it was rezoning them to CLOSER schools.

These mileages do not make any sense. I don't know anyone living in the rezoned neighborhoods of Cabin Branch or BOyds (especially CB) who is 6.5 miles away from CHS. CB is 3 miles from CHS.

Maybe not, but I do.

If you live in CB you are lying. You are not 6 miles away from CHS.