ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:This is going back off the rails! What ever happens to the guy who said GA was announcing 8/1 and the commissioner told them this.

Where are you!? Why did you lie to us!….

You mean the guy that kept saying "Trish the Commish" and that it was a lock that GA would announce XYZ on ABC date?

I dont understand what people like this gain. If youre just being a troll fine. But theres better ways to troll people. And dont throw a date out because you paint yourself in the corner.

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The entire p2p landscape will be SY in 2026. To think any of these leagues could stand on their own with different cutoffs is more than daft. Lots of neurotic parents I guess. How did this thread have so many pages! Yall are nuts.

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You don’t think MLSN academies will stay BY??? They are a different animal and not P2P.

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Anonymous wrote:We received confirmation in Michigan. No change for the upcoming year, may be revisited for next year.

lol. Because Michigan AYSO is exactly where we expect the official announcement to be released. No offense but c'mon ppl. Look at all this insanity. When there is something to know, we'll all know it at the same time. Just chill. ECNL hasn't been unclear about what's coming so you can either look into the chicken bones or you can just listen to the podcast. Change is coming. Details are on the way. Lower level leagues will probably screw up the rollout and try to satisfy everyone. In the process making everyone crazy. We know how this goes...

Was told today by ECNL director
No RL/ECNL/US club players can play GA starting next season and clubs will be in violation and risk being kicked out.

Also starting next year Jan 26 ECNL/RL teams will be given flexibility season to roster up to 4 Aug to Dec players that will also be eligible to compete at nationals.

What a load of baloney.

1st ECNL has no say over GA rules
2nd Your ECNL kid can play on GA teams no issue.

Your director is just trying to scare you from playing on GA teams.

ECNL allows GA players to play on their teams via the Discovery program and GA allows ECNL players to play on their teams. However once rostered you can only play a certain number of games before you must commit to being full time on that team.

You don’t read well do you. ECNL will NOT allow it anymore. They are trying to weaken GA. They do not want their players pumping up the Ga platform.

Any ECNL/rl club with players who break the rule will risk being kicked out and the club losing its status.

ECNL can say whatever they want.

They dont define GA rules.

Your club director is trying to scare you from checking out and playing on GA teams. They dont own your kid you can play wherever you want.

You’re a slow fella.
They aren’t defining GA rules? They are cracking down on players and clubs who break ECNL rules.

Well fella show me the rule that states that ECNL players carded by US Club cant also play GA and be carded by USSSA.

Also please inform me exactly how this rule will be policed considering that US Club and USSSA are completely independent of each other and do not work together in any way.

Or your club director is trying to scare parents into not checking out GA. (Wonder why?)

GA Team A uses 3 ecnl players GA team B loses and knows this and reports them to ECNL that these players are playing in the Ga league. I don’t think the ECNL umbrella clubs will risk their standing in ECNL so players can play Ga.

So youre suggesting that ECNL has put together some kind of internal team to field complaints from (not sure who) and action on them?

Or ECNL doesn't care if players play for GA. But, club owners do care if ECNL players play for GA clubs because they lose money. To address this your club owners have told your club director to scare parents by saying that they'll be kicked out of ECNL (the local club) if they play GA. (Unless of course the player is a superstar and is famous or scores goals at will.)

Do you understand yet? Its not ECNL cracking down on players playing for GA. Its your own club being greedy and saying if you play for anyone else we'll kick you out and likely try to keep all the money youve paid for the season.

ECNL is going to send something formal out to their clubs that if players on RL/NL rosters are playing for GA then there will be consequences for those clubs and players. That’s the deterrent enough for them.

What people do doesn’t matter to me.

I doubt it because that would show weakness + ECNL acknowledging that GA is a threat.

Well regardless that’s going to suck because my daughter plays at an RL club and plays with Ga also.

For the 25/26 season there is also a new rule that a fully rostered GA player can no longer play for an ECNL team either. Multiple high level kids were trying to do both in certain areas so it sounds like they are cracking down on it from both sides.

Big showdowns coming.

Everyone will want to be on the Playoff teams... No reason to pay for non playoff clubs as they are money pits.

You’re wrong there. No one will want to pay for non playoff Ga teams. The majority of people will continue to pay for girls ECNL teams playoffs or not.

If things true and GA doesn’t have some giant plan to reveal this will kill GA from a top league standpoint.

I think it’s underestimated how many players from other leagues guest play for GA teams at showcases or nationals.

Obviously there are some talented put together teams but in my experience as a GA parent and ECNL parent girls at both clubs. GA needs guest players to be competitive ECNL does not.

Since when has GA been considered a top league?

I attended GA playoffs and then went down to watch ECNL playoffs. It is very clear that ECNL top teams, on average, were significantly “better” than the GA clubs. BUT, what I noticed is that ECNL plays a different brand of soccer than GA. GA does seem to be more skill based with more playing out of the back, connecting double digit passes, etc. While ECNL could just out athlete any of the top GA teams. Very rarely did I see any of the top teams connect more than 3-4 passes. Goal kick to midfield, win a header, pass to wing who runs really fast and tries to beat defender. The GA teams were more about playing out of the back, look to mid or up the side, back to outside back or CB who switches field, and off they go the other direction. More maybe Spanish style than American style, but I am far from an expert.

That’s assuming the top ECNL players can’t play that way which they definitely can. But when you have the horses use them.

GA lack of talent compared to ECNL you need to play possession because you don’t have as many D1 power conference athletes up top to send the ball too.

That doesn’t mean they are better at possession it just means that’s the only way for most of the teams to play effective soccer.

I was also at GA nationals and there are definitely some great players in the GA league.

The “because I dont doesnt mean I cant” routine is probably not true. If you play kickball for 6 years and forego technical aspects I am not sure you can just “switch” styles on a whim. Not knocking the style but to say they could do it better than the teams that have been doing it for 6 years is probably not true. Some of the Spanish teams at ECNL were passing around some of the highly ranked teams fairly easily. They didnt always win because their opponent had a 4.2 40yard wing who could beat anyone to goal.

College coaches love them some athletes with speed they can teach them the rest.
Don’t want slower possession players unfortunately.

If this is true, it means college coaches don’t know much about soccer. It’s why the U.S. is horrible at soccer.

It is true for the vast majority of the college soccer coaches. They are pretty awful. A lot like HS coaches. The best coaches in the US are at the pro and youth club levels. College doesn’t pays well enough.

College coaches also are not developers. They’re roster managers. Some of them know tactics, but many don’t know technique. They’re expecting the players to be built before the come to college.

This is why college soccer is largely the reason why US soccer sucks past the youth level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is going back off the rails! What ever happens to the guy who said GA was announcing 8/1 and the commissioner told them this.

Where are you!? Why did you lie to us!….

You mean the guy that kept saying "Trish the Commish" and that it was a lock that GA would announce XYZ on ABC date?

I dont understand what people like this gain. If youre just being a troll fine. But theres better ways to troll people. And dont throw a date out because you paint yourself in the corner.

If I could screen shot the email from the commish I would. I feel betrayed! One day we will all know what they’re going to do. Until then, lets discuss the leagues and US v Canada soccer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is going back off the rails! What ever happens to the guy who said GA was announcing 8/1 and the commissioner told them this.

Where are you!? Why did you lie to us!….

You mean the guy that kept saying "Trish the Commish" and that it was a lock that GA would announce XYZ on ABC date?

I dont understand what people like this gain. If youre just being a troll fine. But theres better ways to troll people. And dont throw a date out because you paint yourself in the corner.

If I could screen shot the email from the commish I would. I feel betrayed! One day we will all know what they’re going to do. Until then, lets discuss the leagues and US v Canada soccer.

When you say "if I could screen shot the email from the commish I would" are you saying this because her correspondence with you is a figment of your imagination?

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Anonymous wrote:This is going back off the rails! What ever happens to the guy who said GA was announcing 8/1 and the commissioner told them this.

Where are you!? Why did you lie to us!….

You mean the guy that kept saying "Trish the Commish" and that it was a lock that GA would announce XYZ on ABC date?

I dont understand what people like this gain. If youre just being a troll fine. But theres better ways to troll people. And dont throw a date out because you paint yourself in the corner.

If I could screen shot the email from the commish I would. I feel betrayed! One day we will all know what they’re going to do. Until then, lets discuss the leagues and US v Canada soccer.

When you say "if I could screen shot the email from the commish I would" are you saying this because her correspondence with you is a figment of your imagination?

At this point, it might as well be. Broken and confused, I must go on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is going back off the rails! What ever happens to the guy who said GA was announcing 8/1 and the commissioner told them this.

Where are you!? Why did you lie to us!….

You mean the guy that kept saying "Trish the Commish" and that it was a lock that GA would announce XYZ on ABC date?

I dont understand what people like this gain. If youre just being a troll fine. But theres better ways to troll people. And dont throw a date out because you paint yourself in the corner.

If I could screen shot the email from the commish I would. I feel betrayed! One day we will all know what they’re going to do. Until then, lets discuss the leagues and US v Canada soccer.

Well when Canada is 51st then they get in on our sh!t show we call soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t think MLSN academies will stay BY??? They are a different animal and not P2P.

Mlsn academy is not fundamentally different . They still play the p2p teams for Christ sake but just have a higher concentration of better kids mainly. I wouldn’t call it double A vs triple A like in baseball though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t think MLSN academies will stay BY??? They are a different animal and not P2P.

Being on a different age range than MLS P2P will make it too difficult for MLSN academies to evaluate players, meaning the wrong kids in MLS P2P will be starring in games and will be fool's gold. They want easy and don't want to pick the wrong players.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t think MLSN academies will stay BY??? They are a different animal and not P2P.

Being on a different age range than MLS P2P will make it too difficult for MLSN academies to evaluate players, meaning the wrong kids in MLS P2P will be starring in games and will be fool's gold. They want easy and don't want to pick the wrong players.

Queue the Biobanding crazies…Just bioband 1/3 of the team and then you have BY+SY=WTF.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t think MLSN academies will stay BY??? They are a different animal and not P2P.

Being on a different age range than MLS P2P will make it too difficult for MLSN academies to evaluate players, meaning the wrong kids in MLS P2P will be starring in games and will be fool's gold. They want easy and don't want to pick the wrong players.

Queue the Biobanding crazies…Just bioband 1/3 of the team and then you have BY+SY=WTF.

You may not like it but when youre the top tier of boys youth soccer you make the rules.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t think MLSN academies will stay BY??? They are a different animal and not P2P.

Being on a different age range than MLS P2P will make it too difficult for MLSN academies to evaluate players, meaning the wrong kids in MLS P2P will be starring in games and will be fool's gold. They want easy and don't want to pick the wrong players.

Queue the Biobanding crazies…Just bioband 1/3 of the team and then you have BY+SY=WTF.

You may not like it but when youre the top tier of boys youth soccer you make the rules.

lol, total dbag comment . MLSN is another transient alphabet league. Have you been living under a rock the last few decades?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t think MLSN academies will stay BY??? They are a different animal and not P2P.

Mlsn academy is not fundamentally different . They still play the p2p teams for Christ sake but just have a higher concentration of better kids mainly. I wouldn’t call it double A vs triple A like in baseball though.

Oh but it is. When you're a P2P club flying your kid to another state for them to get crushed by an academy team, paying 4k a year, and arriving with your one coach who has 3 teams and they are all there with their entire staff of coaches, and trainers etc you realize, its the same league sure but its not the same "league".

[Anonymous]

You need to get over yourself. Mlsn academy players and p2p overlap in talent quite a bit, in part because not all top soccers players want and can have their families move to an academy. Also Remember the academy is still several tiers below getting to actual MLS games. And have you watched a typical MLS match? talk about a lower tier league on the international level.