ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

[Anonymous]

An 07 boy’s parent here. We are looking to try out for an ECNL team but haven’t decided on which one yet. Could anyone please summarize the 106 pages of discussion? Thx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An 07 boy’s parent here. We are looking to try out for an ECNL team but haven’t decided on which one yet. Could anyone please summarize the 106 pages of discussion? Thx

If your son is good may want to consider MLS next instead of boys ECNL.

[Anonymous]

Last day in February. Please release the coaching slate

- Every family in McLean and BRAVE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do players who don't play on a large roster accept this because they can still say they are on an ECNL team for recruiting? They still have to make it through the college tryout process on merit but maybe just saying that you're on an ECNL team helps? Especially for a D3 school this could help right? Sincerely asking.

This is what I hear is happening. Girls join Union in their recruiting years because Union coaches will help them get into schools even if they are bench players and never play a regular season game. They get in at showcases and the Union coaches use their connections and make calls. At U16/17/18, the girls are being developed through private coaches and training, they don't need playing time. What they want is to get into a college or play in college. The players and parents are not being tricked. They know there are big rosters. What shouldn't be happening is big rosters at younger ages where kids do need to develop and aren't necessarily getting private training.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

To the comment about the Arlington 2011 ECNL, thats not exactly right. There are several former Mclean players, one from BRAVE and no one from SYC. 9 members of the team have been together at Arlington since starting together at U8.

Wow the same 9 players were selected at tryouts as 7 year olds are strill on the top team now. Maybe you should give that persons info to all the teams in the premier league because they clearly have a skill no one else does. Or could this be a reason why Arlington's older teams get worse as they get older.

Maybe. Or maybe your info is wrong and some of those players worked their way up from the 2nd team each year and the younger age coaches should get some credit for not overlooking the idea of promoting talent from inside the club.

It’s only 6-7 kids from the original team that still playing. Arlington did move up a couple (few?) of kids from the 2nd team at different times. Several joined from other clubs throughout the years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do players who don't play on a large roster accept this because they can still say they are on an ECNL team for recruiting? They still have to make it through the college tryout process on merit but maybe just saying that you're on an ECNL team helps? Especially for a D3 school this could help right? Sincerely asking.

This is what I hear is happening. Girls join Union in their recruiting years because Union coaches will help them get into schools even if they are bench players and never play a regular season game. They get in at showcases and the Union coaches use their connections and make calls. At U16/17/18, the girls are being developed through private coaches and training, they don't need playing time. What they want is to get into a college or play in college. The players and parents are not being tricked. They know there are big rosters. What shouldn't be happening is big rosters at younger ages where kids do need to develop and aren't necessarily getting private training.

Be creative with the 06/07 large pool of players the new club could roster 2 teams within the team, arrange and agree with each of the rostered players, half of the league games. Sign this age for more showcases and take each of the teams to a different event. Players would like to hear that there is a spot for them at least for 1/2 of the league games, and for a couple or more of showcases.

[Anonymous]

Every Mclean and Brave family has lost confidence in this merger at this point, given the way it's been handled. I don't really care who is at fault. Show, be grown-ups, get over your ego, get a coaching slate, and get it out. The mismanagement is shocking. At this point, ECNL should just come in and take it all over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every Mclean and Brave family has lost confidence in this merger at this point, given the way it's been handled. I don't really care who is at fault. Show, be grown-ups, get over your ego, get a coaching slate, and get it out. The mismanagement is shocking. At this point, ECNL should just come in and take it all over.

Can I get an idea of what was mismanaged, other than not putting out their coaching slate yet? I mean the timing sucks, but don't know what all happened behind the scenes to affect that.

[Anonymous]

This thread is why so many players with talent and potential are doomed.
They are being guided by the folks engaged in these ridiculous arguments.

[Anonymous]

If you have concerns you can voice them to ECNL here:

https://theecnl.com/sb_output.aspx?form=4

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is why so many players with talent and potential are doomed.
They are being guided by the folks engaged in these ridiculous arguments.

And given that this thread has over 100 pages, now we know most of the folks who populate this forum are from the McBrave area

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you have concerns you can voice them to ECNL here:

https://theecnl.com/sb_output.aspx?form=4

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is why so many players with talent and potential are doomed.
They are being guided by the folks engaged in these ridiculous arguments.

And given that this thread has over 100 pages, now we know most of the folks who populate this forum are from the McBrave area

-Sherlock Holmes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Mclean and Brave family has lost confidence in this merger at this point, given the way it's been handled. I don't really care who is at fault. Show, be grown-ups, get over your ego, get a coaching slate, and get it out. The mismanagement is shocking. At this point, ECNL should just come in and take it all over.

Can I get an idea of what was mismanaged, other than not putting out their coaching slate yet? I mean the timing sucks, but don't know what all happened behind the scenes to affect that.

Well, that’s a pretty big one to begin. Tomorrow is 3/1 and we have no slates, no ID sessions, which puts them behind by design. Dumb move for clubs that were told to improve. All reports are that the delays are due to infighting on the boys side. At least get the girls slate out. On the boys side, get it together. There has been NO communication to BRAVE families, and the communication from MYS have been lacking to say the least. The kids who want to stay are going to be left with no option but to leave since they can’t wait and forego other opportunities while this works itself out.

What would have been well-managed? They announce it, follow quickly with coaching slates and ID sessions, and keep promoting it as a new club with the strength of the best players from 3 feeders and the area. Instead they have managed the story negatively and look incompetent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Mclean and Brave family has lost confidence in this merger at this point, given the way it's been handled. I don't really care who is at fault. Show, be grown-ups, get over your ego, get a coaching slate, and get it out. The mismanagement is shocking. At this point, ECNL should just come in and take it all over.

Can I get an idea of what was mismanaged, other than not putting out their coaching slate yet? I mean the timing sucks, but don't know what all happened behind the scenes to affect that.

If the merger was unavoidable then the bare minimum would be to clearly communicate as much as you can to your membership and respect the fact that the timing is terrible for everyone involved. Clubs should have cared about that more and worked with ECNL on a solution and rollout that was fair to their membership. Get off your high horse and care about the kids and families that you always claim to care about. You all are doing a terrible job.

Parents talk. Almost 100 percent of families from all 3 clubs are unhappy about this and no one knows anything other than the initial statement from the clubs and one email sent to McLean families. Most people are getting their info from this thread, where half the posts are probably written by SYC coaches.

No specifics from me but those are the outward signs of mismanagement.