Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Gaza was never part of biblical Israel and Jews have never lived there. It was never even in original UN plan for Israel.
Israeli settlements are in the West Bank. Why fight the war in Gaza instead of the West Bank?
I get it that Hamas fighters crossed the border from Gaza to Israel and that there are some tunnels under the buildings, but so what?
Some of the soldiers could have been from the West Bank or the Palestinian refugee camp in Jordan
What is there to gain anymore?
Would the West Bank not have made more sense?

They just hate the Palestinians and enjoy killing civilians. What is the count up to 20,000?

And they would all be alive if Hamas hadn't invaded Israel and massacred all those people. Maybe that wasn't a great idea.

GTFO. Israel could have done this so many different ways. “It’s your fault I need to beat you” should be the new motto of the IDF. 96% of the WORLD agrees Israel is commiting war crimes but this gross deflection continues.

Self defense is a thing.

20,000 (and counting) to 1200 (half of which was friendly fire) is self defense? Israeli’s are depraved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gaza was never part of biblical Israel and Jews have never lived there. It was never even in original UN plan for Israel.
Israeli settlements are in the West Bank. Why fight the war in Gaza instead of the West Bank?
I get it that Hamas fighters crossed the border from Gaza to Israel and that there are some tunnels under the buildings, but so what?
Some of the soldiers could have been from the West Bank or the Palestinian refugee camp in Jordan
What is there to gain anymore?
Would the West Bank not have made more sense?

They just hate the Palestinians and enjoy killing civilians. What is the count up to 20,000?

And they would all be alive if Hamas hadn't invaded Israel and massacred all those people. Maybe that wasn't a great idea.

GTFO. Israel could have done this so many different ways. “It’s your fault I need to beat you” should be the new motto of the IDF. 96% of the WORLD agrees Israel is commiting war crimes but this gross deflection continues.

Self defense is a thing.

20,000 (and counting) to 1200 (half of which was friendly fire) is self defense? Israeli’s are depraved.

Yes, self defense. Every nation on earth would be doing the same thing.

It's terrible and tragic, and it's also the reality of how this stuff works.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another woman was found dead today. Murdered by Hamas.

Very few twenty-something women were released in the latest hostage swap.

All you pro-Hamas posters are just misogynist pigs. What is wrong with you?

Agree that is horrific. IDF killed an average of 1000 children/week for the last two months. All you pro-IDF posters are just child murderers. What is wrong with you?

You're ridiculous.

Just pointing out that two can play this game. It's stupid to accuse those of us who are horrified by the IDF's rapid killing of thousands of children as pro-Hamas. Yes, the rape and murder of women in war is terrible. But it's utterly disingenuous when a pro-Israeli poster claims horror for the rapes of women but shows little sympathy, or even tries to justify, the slaughter of thousands of children. The IDF, one of the best, most advanced militaries in the world, deliberately chose to use dumb bombs in extremely dense urban areas. They killed babies in NICUs and families seeking refuge in churches rather than chose a military strategy that would be more precise.

[Anonymous]

Most recent polling on US attitudes on the war. Lots of interesting data.

Headlines: no one likes Biden, the Left is going to elect Trump, and TikTok users are idiots

Overall
47% support Israel
20% support Palestinians

18-29 YOs
46% support Palestinians
27% support Israel

TikTok users are the most anti-Israel group.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/19/us/politics/biden-israel-gaza-poll.html?mwgrp=c-dbar&unlocked_article_code=1.HE0.8a69.XCjYAGscDXg1&hpgrp=k-abar&smid=url-share

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gaza was never part of biblical Israel and Jews have never lived there. It was never even in original UN plan for Israel.
Israeli settlements are in the West Bank. Why fight the war in Gaza instead of the West Bank?
I get it that Hamas fighters crossed the border from Gaza to Israel and that there are some tunnels under the buildings, but so what?
Some of the soldiers could have been from the West Bank or the Palestinian refugee camp in Jordan
What is there to gain anymore?
Would the West Bank not have made more sense?

They just hate the Palestinians and enjoy killing civilians. What is the count up to 20,000?

And they would all be alive if Hamas hadn't invaded Israel and massacred all those people. Maybe that wasn't a great idea.

GTFO. Israel could have done this so many different ways. “It’s your fault I need to beat you” should be the new motto of the IDF. 96% of the WORLD agrees Israel is commiting war crimes but this gross deflection continues.

Self defense is a thing.

20,000 (and counting) to 1200 (half of which was friendly fire) is self defense? Israeli’s are depraved.

Yes, self defense. Every nation on earth would be doing the same thing.

It's terrible and tragic, and it's also the reality of how this stuff works.

Tell me which nation has killed nearly 10K children in two months in self defense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another woman was found dead today. Murdered by Hamas.

Very few twenty-something women were released in the latest hostage swap.

All you pro-Hamas posters are just misogynist pigs. What is wrong with you?

Agree that is horrific. IDF killed an average of 1000 children/week for the last two months. All you pro-IDF posters are just child murderers. What is wrong with you?

You're ridiculous.

Just pointing out that two can play this game. It's stupid to accuse those of us who are horrified by the IDF's rapid killing of thousands of children as pro-Hamas. Yes, the rape and murder of women in war is terrible. But it's utterly disingenuous when a pro-Israeli poster claims horror for the rapes of women but shows little sympathy, or even tries to justify, the slaughter of thousands of children. The IDF, one of the best, most advanced militaries in the world, deliberately chose to use dumb bombs in extremely dense urban areas. They killed babies in NICUs and families seeking refuge in churches rather than chose a military strategy that would be more precise.

You're right about Israel's conduct--I think that they've made some terrible strategic/tactical decisions. But there are also limits to exactly how "precise" a military campaign can be.

But you're also being disingenuous (or perhaps are legitimately unaware?) about exactly who's opposing Israel and their motives.

For example, are you aware that polling shows that 57% of American Muslims think Hamas was at least " somewhat justified" on 10/7?

Wanna guess what polling of Palestinians shows WRT the existence of Israel, violence vs. nonviolence, etc.?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gaza was never part of biblical Israel and Jews have never lived there. It was never even in original UN plan for Israel.
Israeli settlements are in the West Bank. Why fight the war in Gaza instead of the West Bank?
I get it that Hamas fighters crossed the border from Gaza to Israel and that there are some tunnels under the buildings, but so what?
Some of the soldiers could have been from the West Bank or the Palestinian refugee camp in Jordan
What is there to gain anymore?
Would the West Bank not have made more sense?

They just hate the Palestinians and enjoy killing civilians. What is the count up to 20,000?

And they would all be alive if Hamas hadn't invaded Israel and massacred all those people. Maybe that wasn't a great idea.

GTFO. Israel could have done this so many different ways. “It’s your fault I need to beat you” should be the new motto of the IDF. 96% of the WORLD agrees Israel is commiting war crimes but this gross deflection continues.

Self defense is a thing.

20,000 (and counting) to 1200 (half of which was friendly fire) is self defense? Israeli’s are depraved.

Yes, self defense. Every nation on earth would be doing the same thing.

It's terrible and tragic, and it's also the reality of how this stuff works.

Tell me which nation has killed nearly 10K children in two months in self defense?

The USA, Great Britain, France, every allied European nation, etc., etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most recent polling on US attitudes on the war. Lots of interesting data.

Headlines: no one likes Biden, the Left is going to elect Trump, and TikTok users are idiots

Overall
47% support Israel
20% support Palestinians

18-29 YOs
46% support Palestinians
27% support Israel

TikTok users are the most anti-Israel group.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/19/us/politics/biden-israel-gaza-poll.html?mwgrp=c-dbar&unlocked_article_code=1.HE0.8a69.XCjYAGscDXg1&hpgrp=k-abar&smid=url-share

Net approve of Biden's handing of Israel Gaza conflict: 33%
Net disapprove of Biden's handling of the conflict: 57%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gaza was never part of biblical Israel and Jews have never lived there. It was never even in original UN plan for Israel.
Israeli settlements are in the West Bank. Why fight the war in Gaza instead of the West Bank?
I get it that Hamas fighters crossed the border from Gaza to Israel and that there are some tunnels under the buildings, but so what?
Some of the soldiers could have been from the West Bank or the Palestinian refugee camp in Jordan
What is there to gain anymore?
Would the West Bank not have made more sense?

They just hate the Palestinians and enjoy killing civilians. What is the count up to 20,000?

And they would all be alive if Hamas hadn't invaded Israel and massacred all those people. Maybe that wasn't a great idea.

GTFO. Israel could have done this so many different ways. “It’s your fault I need to beat you” should be the new motto of the IDF. 96% of the WORLD agrees Israel is commiting war crimes but this gross deflection continues.

Self defense is a thing.

20,000 (and counting) to 1200 (half of which was friendly fire) is self defense? Israeli’s are depraved.

Yes, self defense. Every nation on earth would be doing the same thing.

It's terrible and tragic, and it's also the reality of how this stuff works.

Tell me which nation has killed nearly 10K children in two months in self defense?

The USA, Great Britain, France, every allied European nation, etc., etc.

NOPE. None has killed that many children in 2 months of war.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gaza was never part of biblical Israel and Jews have never lived there. It was never even in original UN plan for Israel.
Israeli settlements are in the West Bank. Why fight the war in Gaza instead of the West Bank?
I get it that Hamas fighters crossed the border from Gaza to Israel and that there are some tunnels under the buildings, but so what?
Some of the soldiers could have been from the West Bank or the Palestinian refugee camp in Jordan
What is there to gain anymore?
Would the West Bank not have made more sense?

They just hate the Palestinians and enjoy killing civilians. What is the count up to 20,000?

And they would all be alive if Hamas hadn't invaded Israel and massacred all those people. Maybe that wasn't a great idea.

GTFO. Israel could have done this so many different ways. “It’s your fault I need to beat you” should be the new motto of the IDF. 96% of the WORLD agrees Israel is commiting war crimes but this gross deflection continues.

Self defense is a thing.

20,000 (and counting) to 1200 (half of which was friendly fire) is self defense? Israeli’s are depraved.

Yes, self defense. Every nation on earth would be doing the same thing.

It's terrible and tragic, and it's also the reality of how this stuff works.

Tell me which nation has killed nearly 10K children in two months in self defense?

The USA, Great Britain, France, every allied European nation, etc., etc.

NOPE. None has killed that many children in 2 months of war.

Check your WW2 stats

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most recent polling on US attitudes on the war. Lots of interesting data.

Headlines: no one likes Biden, the Left is going to elect Trump, and TikTok users are idiots

Overall
47% support Israel
20% support Palestinians

18-29 YOs
46% support Palestinians
27% support Israel

TikTok users are the most anti-Israel group.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/19/us/politics/biden-israel-gaza-poll.html?mwgrp=c-dbar&unlocked_article_code=1.HE0.8a69.XCjYAGscDXg1&hpgrp=k-abar&smid=url-share

Net approve of Biden's handing of Israel Gaza conflict: 33%
Net disapprove of Biden's handling of the conflict: 57%

Note that this is an alliance of Republicans (hate Biden) and the far Left.

MAGA and the Progressives joining forces against the center.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gaza was never part of biblical Israel and Jews have never lived there. It was never even in original UN plan for Israel.
Israeli settlements are in the West Bank. Why fight the war in Gaza instead of the West Bank?
I get it that Hamas fighters crossed the border from Gaza to Israel and that there are some tunnels under the buildings, but so what?
Some of the soldiers could have been from the West Bank or the Palestinian refugee camp in Jordan
What is there to gain anymore?
Would the West Bank not have made more sense?

They just hate the Palestinians and enjoy killing civilians. What is the count up to 20,000?

And they would all be alive if Hamas hadn't invaded Israel and massacred all those people. Maybe that wasn't a great idea.

GTFO. Israel could have done this so many different ways. “It’s your fault I need to beat you” should be the new motto of the IDF. 96% of the WORLD agrees Israel is commiting war crimes but this gross deflection continues.

Self defense is a thing.

20,000 (and counting) to 1200 (half of which was friendly fire) is self defense? Israeli’s are depraved.

Yes, self defense. Every nation on earth would be doing the same thing.

It's terrible and tragic, and it's also the reality of how this stuff works.

Tell me which nation has killed nearly 10K children in two months in self defense?

The USA, Great Britain, France, every allied European nation, etc., etc.

NOPE. None has killed that many children in 2 months of war.

Check your WW2 stats

I did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gaza was never part of biblical Israel and Jews have never lived there. It was never even in original UN plan for Israel.
Israeli settlements are in the West Bank. Why fight the war in Gaza instead of the West Bank?
I get it that Hamas fighters crossed the border from Gaza to Israel and that there are some tunnels under the buildings, but so what?
Some of the soldiers could have been from the West Bank or the Palestinian refugee camp in Jordan
What is there to gain anymore?
Would the West Bank not have made more sense?

They just hate the Palestinians and enjoy killing civilians. What is the count up to 20,000?

And they would all be alive if Hamas hadn't invaded Israel and massacred all those people. Maybe that wasn't a great idea.

GTFO. Israel could have done this so many different ways. “It’s your fault I need to beat you” should be the new motto of the IDF. 96% of the WORLD agrees Israel is commiting war crimes but this gross deflection continues.

Self defense is a thing.

20,000 (and counting) to 1200 (half of which was friendly fire) is self defense? Israeli’s are depraved.

Yes, self defense. Every nation on earth would be doing the same thing.

It's terrible and tragic, and it's also the reality of how this stuff works.

Tell me which nation has killed nearly 10K children in two months in self defense?

The USA, Great Britain, France, every allied European nation, etc., etc.

NOPE. None has killed that many children in 2 months of war.

Check your WW2 stats

I did.

Apparently not: https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

Why waste everyone's time?

[Anonymous]

"yet I’ve had to condemn 911 my whole life"
https://www.reddit.com/r/Virginia/comments/18m0n1q/hampton_va_mayor_interrupts_palestinian_girl/

Sounds very similar to the oh I am am so tired of hearing about the Holocaust statements.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gaza was never part of biblical Israel and Jews have never lived there. It was never even in original UN plan for Israel.
Israeli settlements are in the West Bank. Why fight the war in Gaza instead of the West Bank?
I get it that Hamas fighters crossed the border from Gaza to Israel and that there are some tunnels under the buildings, but so what?
Some of the soldiers could have been from the West Bank or the Palestinian refugee camp in Jordan
What is there to gain anymore?
Would the West Bank not have made more sense?

They just hate the Palestinians and enjoy killing civilians. What is the count up to 20,000?

And they would all be alive if Hamas hadn't invaded Israel and massacred all those people. Maybe that wasn't a great idea.

GTFO. Israel could have done this so many different ways. “It’s your fault I need to beat you” should be the new motto of the IDF. 96% of the WORLD agrees Israel is commiting war crimes but this gross deflection continues.

Self defense is a thing.

20,000 (and counting) to 1200 (half of which was friendly fire) is self defense? Israeli’s are depraved.

Yes, self defense. Every nation on earth would be doing the same thing.

It's terrible and tragic, and it's also the reality of how this stuff works.

Tell me which nation has killed nearly 10K children in two months in self defense?

The USA, Great Britain, France, every allied European nation, etc., etc.

NOPE. None has killed that many children in 2 months of war.

Check your WW2 stats

I did.

Apparently not: https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

Why waste everyone's time?

Read carefully. Carefully. You posted TOTAL deaths over the course of SIX YEARS (civilian plus military), and the numbers do not separate out children's deaths of the civilian deaths. Again, name a single country that has killed 1000 children per week in war.