Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A VERY interesting read:

https://compactmag.com/article/they-can-t-let-him-back-in

What a joke:

But even if we were to stipulate them all, do Trump’s faults really warrant tearing the country apart by shutting out half of it from the political process?

He attempted to overturn the election results to stay in office after he was voted out...and his own supporters tried to overthrow Congress to prevent Biden from taking over. Trump and his lunatic followers are the ones who are trying shut out (more than!) half the country from the political process.

Sorry but I have no sympathy for the whining of a bunch of losers whose main political objective is to ensure they can steal elections the cannot otherwise win.

Michael Anton of Claremont institute/Hillsdale College. Hahahahahahaha. The clown who wrote that Flight 93 claptrap before being rewarded with a loyalist position at the NSC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A VERY interesting read:

https://compactmag.com/article/they-can-t-let-him-back-in

What a joke:

But even if we were to stipulate them all, do Trump’s faults really warrant tearing the country apart by shutting out half of it from the political process?

He attempted to overturn the election results to stay in office after he was voted out...and his own supporters tried to overthrow Congress to prevent Biden from taking over. Trump and his lunatic followers are the ones who are trying shut out (more than!) half the country from the political process.

Sorry but I have no sympathy for the whining of a bunch of losers whose main political objective is to ensure they can steal elections the cannot otherwise win.

Michael Anton of Claremont institute/Hillsdale College. Hahahahahahaha. The clown who wrote that Flight 93 claptrap before being rewarded with a loyalist position at the NSC.

OMG, Hillsdale is one of those conservative nut colleges.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was

Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...

hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.

Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.

If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.

Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).

The warrant covers all documents for all four years. I don't think that's specific enough to require two weeks.

What are you talking about?

My suggestion is to get caught up

I am caught up. Are you talking about the judge giving two weeks for the warrant to be executed? That's not unusual at all so I don't know what you think is suspicious there.

It’s not unusual because the Federal Rules explicitly provide for a 14 day period to execute a search warrant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was

Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...

hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.

Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.

If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.

Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).

The warrant covers all documents for all four years. I don't think that's specific enough to require two weeks.

What are you talking about?

My suggestion is to get caught up

I am caught up. Are you talking about the judge giving two weeks for the warrant to be executed? That's not unusual at all so I don't know what you think is suspicious there.

In matters of extreme national security, which is what's being used to justify the raid, it would be highly unusual to wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was

Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...

hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.

Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.

If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.

Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).

The warrant covers all documents for all four years. I don't think that's specific enough to require two weeks.

The Presidential Records Act pertains to all documents created between 1/20/2017 and 1/20/2020. The warrant allows for the search and siezurecof such documents at a specified address. What’s so confusing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A VERY interesting read:

https://compactmag.com/article/they-can-t-let-him-back-in

What a joke:

But even if we were to stipulate them all, do Trump’s faults really warrant tearing the country apart by shutting out half of it from the political process?

He attempted to overturn the election results to stay in office after he was voted out...and his own supporters tried to overthrow Congress to prevent Biden from taking over. Trump and his lunatic followers are the ones who are trying shut out (more than!) half the country from the political process.

Sorry but I have no sympathy for the whining of a bunch of losers whose main political objective is to ensure they can steal elections the cannot otherwise win.

Michael Anton of Claremont institute/Hillsdale College. Hahahahahahaha. The clown who wrote that Flight 93 claptrap before being rewarded with a loyalist position at the NSC.

OMG, Hillsdale is one of those conservative nut colleges.

the document cloud document was not written by Anton. It's a document by democrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was

Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...

hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.

Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.

If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.

Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).

The warrant covers all documents for all four years. I don't think that's specific enough to require two weeks.

What are you talking about?

My suggestion is to get caught up

I am caught up. Are you talking about the judge giving two weeks for the warrant to be executed? That's not unusual at all so I don't know what you think is suspicious there.

It’s not unusual because the Federal Rules explicitly provide for a 14 day period to execute a search warrant.

But this was a matter of extreme national security.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was

Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...

hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.

Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.

If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.

Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).

The warrant covers all documents for all four years. I don't think that's specific enough to require two weeks.

What are you talking about?

My suggestion is to get caught up

I am caught up. Are you talking about the judge giving two weeks for the warrant to be executed? That's not unusual at all so I don't know what you think is suspicious there.

In matters of extreme national security, which is what's being used to justify the raid, it would be highly unusual to wait.

Hercule Poirot enters the conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was

Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...

hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.

Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.

If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.

Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).

The warrant covers all documents for all four years. I don't think that's specific enough to require two weeks.

The Presidential Records Act pertains to all documents created between 1/20/2017 and 1/20/2020. The warrant allows for the search and siezurecof such documents at a specified address. What’s so confusing?

Glad you agree with me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was

Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...

hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.

Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.

If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.

Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).

The warrant covers all documents for all four years. I don't think that's specific enough to require two weeks.

What are you talking about?

My suggestion is to get caught up

I am caught up. Are you talking about the judge giving two weeks for the warrant to be executed? That's not unusual at all so I don't know what you think is suspicious there.

In matters of extreme national security, which is what's being used to justify the raid, it would be highly unusual to wait.

But they didn't wait two weeks so your comment still doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was

Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...

hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.

Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.

If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.

Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).

The warrant covers all documents for all four years. I don't think that's specific enough to require two weeks.

What are you talking about?

My suggestion is to get caught up

I am caught up. Are you talking about the judge giving two weeks for the warrant to be executed? That's not unusual at all so I don't know what you think is suspicious there.

It’s not unusual because the Federal Rules explicitly provide for a 14 day period to execute a search warrant.

But this was a matter of extreme national security.

How about we presuppose that the Export Control and Counterintelligence Section of the DOJ National Security Division snd FBI Special Agents might know something more than you about a matter such as this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was

Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...

hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.

Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.

If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.

Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).

The warrant covers all documents for all four years. I don't think that's specific enough to require two weeks.

The Presidential Records Act pertains to all documents created between 1/20/2017 and 1/20/2020. The warrant allows for the search and siezurecof such documents at a specified address. What’s so confusing?

Glad you agree with me.

DP. It seems pretty clear you have no clue what you're talking about and are just trying to confuse and distract the discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was

Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...

hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.

Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.

If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.

Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).

The warrant covers all documents for all four years. I don't think that's specific enough to require two weeks.

What are you talking about?

My suggestion is to get caught up

I am caught up. Are you talking about the judge giving two weeks for the warrant to be executed? That's not unusual at all so I don't know what you think is suspicious there.

In matters of extreme national security, which is what's being used to justify the raid, it would be highly unusual to wait.

But they didn't wait two weeks so your comment still doesn't make sense.

Three days is a long time when the security of the nation is in grave danger.

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Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was

Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...

hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.

Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.

If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.

Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).

The warrant covers all documents for all four years. I don't think that's specific enough to require two weeks.

What are you talking about?

My suggestion is to get caught up

I am caught up. Are you talking about the judge giving two weeks for the warrant to be executed? That's not unusual at all so I don't know what you think is suspicious there.

In matters of extreme national security, which is what's being used to justify the raid, it would be highly unusual to wait.

But they didn't wait two weeks so your comment still doesn't make sense.

Three days is a long time when the security of the nation is in grave danger.

Ah, so you're off the whole two weeks thing and now switching to three days? What does this have to do with it being four years worth of documents?

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Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was

Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...

hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.

Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.

If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.

Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).

And for all those who think the Biden admin is behind this, The timing of this news couldn’t be worse for the Biden Administration. They are in the cusp of passing a major bill and it’s all being drowned out by the Trump news.

Definitely not great timing for Biden, but also pretty bad for republicans. They want to go into the midterms talking about inflation inflation inflation. Now they’re forced to defend something that 75-80% of the electorate will find completely indefensible. But they can’t cut him loose because the 20% who don’t are their most loyal base.