ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

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Anonymous wrote:Four players aren't rostered each game, but those players are rotated. Game day roster decisions are based on what the coach accesses is needed to be most competitive against the opponent. It probably works because the roster does not have any weak links. Sure, every player has their strengths and weaknesses. But as a whole, the team works well together regardless of which players are on the field. There are several players who are versatile - although they may prefer one position, they are competitive playing at least one other.


coaching slate will be out today. Confirmed.
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Anonymous wrote:How many girls are being rostered for ECNL teams at Union? How do they determine who plays in the matches?


Next year expect inflated rosters. Playing time will vary based on the coach. Expect many players to self select out in year 2.


Could be but you can only dress 18.


Why would the roster be more than 18 then?


McLean/VA Union ECNL carries rosters of well over 18 in most age groups for boys and girls. Only 18 can be rostered on game days. The rest sit.


BRAVE does not do this - no huge rosters with more players than can actually dress and play. It’s always the same team at every practice and game.


IMO announcing a cap of 18 players per ECNL team would do more to keep the best players than any one single action. Many top players are worried about accepting a 3/1 offer and then learning that there will be 30 on the roster - no ability to build chemistry, lots of "10 minutes left in the half, score tied, 7 subs come on to join you, other team immediately scores" moments.


Roster will be between 24-30


And this was acceptable to McLean players and families? Why?


There isn't deception going on. It's because some of those families were happy to pay the fee to practice with the ECNL team and develop with that team and coach and be rostered on weekends in EDP. That all works because enough people were interested in the program.

BRAVE rostered how many kids and why? Was it because they had 30 great players tryout and decided to only pick the best 14 or was is because lots of players have left and their current coaches do not attract outside talent.

Ask the 2009 Girls if you don't know the answer.


Why not also ask the other BRAVE girls teams that are doing well too rather than only use the example of the 1 that isn’t? These teams all have smaller rosters. There is great team dynamics and synergy since it’s the same players at every practice and game.
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Anonymous wrote:How many girls are being rostered for ECNL teams at Union? How do they determine who plays in the matches?


Next year expect inflated rosters. Playing time will vary based on the coach. Expect many players to self select out in year 2.


Could be but you can only dress 18.


Why would the roster be more than 18 then?


McLean/VA Union ECNL carries rosters of well over 18 in most age groups for boys and girls. Only 18 can be rostered on game days. The rest sit.


BRAVE does not do this - no huge rosters with more players than can actually dress and play. It’s always the same team at every practice and game.


Not true. On the boys side, BRAVE has had 22-24 at some age groups the past 2 years.
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Anonymous wrote:Four players aren't rostered each game, but those players are rotated. Game day roster decisions are based on what the coach accesses is needed to be most competitive against the opponent. It probably works because the roster does not have any weak links. Sure, every player has their strengths and weaknesses. But as a whole, the team works well together regardless of which players are on the field. There are several players who are versatile - although they may prefer one position, they are competitive playing at least one other.


How many are those for non-dressing spots rotated among? Are you saying that you can start one day and not dress the next or is it the same six or seven kids each game?
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Anonymous wrote:How many girls are being rostered for ECNL teams at Union? How do they determine who plays in the matches?


Next year expect inflated rosters. Playing time will vary based on the coach. Expect many players to self select out in year 2.


Could be but you can only dress 18.


Why would the roster be more than 18 then?


McLean/VA Union ECNL carries rosters of well over 18 in most age groups for boys and girls. Only 18 can be rostered on game days. The rest sit.


BRAVE does not do this - no huge rosters with more players than can actually dress and play. It’s always the same team at every practice and game.


IMO announcing a cap of 18 players per ECNL team would do more to keep the best players than any one single action. Many top players are worried about accepting a 3/1 offer and then learning that there will be 30 on the roster - no ability to build chemistry, lots of "10 minutes left in the half, score tied, 7 subs come on to join you, other team immediately scores" moments.


Roster will be between 24-30


And this was acceptable to McLean players and families? Why?


There isn't deception going on. It's because some of those families were happy to pay the fee to practice with the ECNL team and develop with that team and coach and be rostered on weekends in EDP. That all works because enough people were interested in the program.

BRAVE rostered how many kids and why? Was it because they had 30 great players tryout and decided to only pick the best 14 or was is because lots of players have left and their current coaches do not attract outside talent.

Ask the 2009 Girls if you don't know the answer.


Why not also ask the other BRAVE girls teams that are doing well too rather than only use the example of the 1 that isn’t? These teams all have smaller rosters. There is great team dynamics and synergy since it’s the same players at every practice and game.


Define...doing well? I only see one current girls BRAVE team over .500
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Anonymous wrote:How many girls are being rostered for ECNL teams at Union? How do they determine who plays in the matches?


Next year expect inflated rosters. Playing time will vary based on the coach. Expect many players to self select out in year 2.


Could be but you can only dress 18.


Why would the roster be more than 18 then?


McLean/VA Union ECNL carries rosters of well over 18 in most age groups for boys and girls. Only 18 can be rostered on game days. The rest sit.


BRAVE does not do this - no huge rosters with more players than can actually dress and play. It’s always the same team at every practice and game.


IMO announcing a cap of 18 players per ECNL team would do more to keep the best players than any one single action. Many top players are worried about accepting a 3/1 offer and then learning that there will be 30 on the roster - no ability to build chemistry, lots of "10 minutes left in the half, score tied, 7 subs come on to join you, other team immediately scores" moments.


Roster will be between 24-30


And this was acceptable to McLean players and families? Why?


There isn't deception going on. It's because some of those families were happy to pay the fee to practice with the ECNL team and develop with that team and coach and be rostered on weekends in EDP. That all works because enough people were interested in the program.

BRAVE rostered how many kids and why? Was it because they had 30 great players tryout and decided to only pick the best 14 or was is because lots of players have left and their current coaches do not attract outside talent.

Ask the 2009 Girls if you don't know the answer.


Why not also ask the other BRAVE girls teams that are doing well too rather than only use the example of the 1 that isn’t? These teams all have smaller rosters. There is great team dynamics and synergy since it’s the same players at every practice and game.


From the job description of all FVU Coaches: FVU aims to be a nationally recognized powerhouse - Coaches must effectively operate outside of their own little bubble
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Anonymous wrote:How many girls are being rostered for ECNL teams at Union? How do they determine who plays in the matches?


Next year expect inflated rosters. Playing time will vary based on the coach. Expect many players to self select out in year 2.


Could be but you can only dress 18.


Why would the roster be more than 18 then?


McLean/VA Union ECNL carries rosters of well over 18 in most age groups for boys and girls. Only 18 can be rostered on game days. The rest sit.


BRAVE does not do this - no huge rosters with more players than can actually dress and play. It’s always the same team at every practice and game.


IMO announcing a cap of 18 players per ECNL team would do more to keep the best players than any one single action. Many top players are worried about accepting a 3/1 offer and then learning that there will be 30 on the roster - no ability to build chemistry, lots of "10 minutes left in the half, score tied, 7 subs come on to join you, other team immediately scores" moments.


Roster will be between 24-30


And this was acceptable to McLean players and families? Why?


There isn't deception going on. It's because some of those families were happy to pay the fee to practice with the ECNL team and develop with that team and coach and be rostered on weekends in EDP. That all works because enough people were interested in the program.

BRAVE rostered how many kids and why? Was it because they had 30 great players tryout and decided to only pick the best 14 or was is because lots of players have left and their current coaches do not attract outside talent.

Ask the 2009 Girls if you don't know the answer.


Why not also ask the other BRAVE girls teams that are doing well too rather than only use the example of the 1 that isn’t? These teams all have smaller rosters. There is great team dynamics and synergy since it’s the same players at every practice and game.


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Anonymous wrote:Four players aren't rostered each game, but those players are rotated. Game day roster decisions are based on what the coach accesses is needed to be most competitive against the opponent. It probably works because the roster does not have any weak links. Sure, every player has their strengths and weaknesses. But as a whole, the team works well together regardless of which players are on the field. There are several players who are versatile - although they may prefer one position, they are competitive playing at least one other.


coaching slate will be out today. Confirmed.


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Anonymous wrote:How many girls are being rostered for ECNL teams at Union? How do they determine who plays in the matches?


Next year expect inflated rosters. Playing time will vary based on the coach. Expect many players to self select out in year 2.


Could be but you can only dress 18.


Why would the roster be more than 18 then?


McLean/VA Union ECNL carries rosters of well over 18 in most age groups for boys and girls. Only 18 can be rostered on game days. The rest sit.


BRAVE does not do this - no huge rosters with more players than can actually dress and play. It’s always the same team at every practice and game.


Not true. On the boys side, BRAVE has had 22-24 at some age groups the past 2 years.


This was referencing the girls teams
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Anonymous wrote:How many girls are being rostered for ECNL teams at Union? How do they determine who plays in the matches?


Next year expect inflated rosters. Playing time will vary based on the coach. Expect many players to self select out in year 2.


Could be but you can only dress 18.


Why would the roster be more than 18 then?


McLean/VA Union ECNL carries rosters of well over 18 in most age groups for boys and girls. Only 18 can be rostered on game days. The rest sit.


BRAVE does not do this - no huge rosters with more players than can actually dress and play. It’s always the same team at every practice and game.


IMO announcing a cap of 18 players per ECNL team would do more to keep the best players than any one single action. Many top players are worried about accepting a 3/1 offer and then learning that there will be 30 on the roster - no ability to build chemistry, lots of "10 minutes left in the half, score tied, 7 subs come on to join you, other team immediately scores" moments.


Roster will be between 24-30


And this was acceptable to McLean players and families? Why?


There isn't deception going on. It's because some of those families were happy to pay the fee to practice with the ECNL team and develop with that team and coach and be rostered on weekends in EDP. That all works because enough people were interested in the program.

BRAVE rostered how many kids and why? Was it because they had 30 great players tryout and decided to only pick the best 14 or was is because lots of players have left and their current coaches do not attract outside talent.

Ask the 2009 Girls if you don't know the answer.


Why not also ask the other BRAVE girls teams that are doing well too rather than only use the example of the 1 that isn’t? These teams all have smaller rosters. There is great team dynamics and synergy since it’s the same players at every practice and game.


Define...doing well? I only see one current girls BRAVE team over .500


Outside of the 2011’s (who have a lot of former McLean and VYS), who is performing well in Arlington?

Outside of the 2010’s (largely from SYC), who is performing well from Union?
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Anonymous wrote:Four players aren't rostered each game, but those players are rotated. Game day roster decisions are based on what the coach accesses is needed to be most competitive against the opponent. It probably works because the roster does not have any weak links. Sure, every player has their strengths and weaknesses. But as a whole, the team works well together regardless of which players are on the field. There are several players who are versatile - although they may prefer one position, they are competitive playing at least one other.


How many are those for non-dressing spots rotated among? Are you saying that you can start one day and not dress the next or is it the same six or seven kids each game?


Although there are a handful (plus or minus a couple) who have started every game, the starting line-up varies. But to answer the question, most players have not been rostered for one or two of our league games; so the players who haven't dressed have changed/been rotated equally, for the most part. There have been games when someone is sick or injured, so self-selected not to play. Players not rostered show up anyway, participate in warm ups and watch the game.

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Anonymous wrote:Four players aren't rostered each game, but those players are rotated. Game day roster decisions are based on what the coach accesses is needed to be most competitive against the opponent. It probably works because the roster does not have any weak links. Sure, every player has their strengths and weaknesses. But as a whole, the team works well together regardless of which players are on the field. There are several players who are versatile - although they may prefer one position, they are competitive playing at least one other.


How many are those for non-dressing spots rotated among? Are you saying that you can start one day and not dress the next or is it the same six or seven kids each game?


Although there are a handful (plus a couple, possibly) who have started every game, the starting line-up varies. But to answer the question, most players have not been rostered for one or two of our league games; so the players who haven't dressed have changed/been rotated equally, for the most part. There have been games when someone was sick or injured, so self-selected not to play. Players not rostered show up anyway, participate in warm ups and watch the game.

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Anonymous wrote:My teenager's ECNL team has had 22 on the roster this year, and it's worked out fine - actually, surprisingly well for all players. In the past I've criticized the club for having deep rosters, so I was skeptical at the beginning of the season. I credit the coach's management of the roster.


Do the same group of kids not play in league matches (actually not dress, thanks to substitution rules, most wont play in a given match)? Do the kids who don't dress for games think it is working out fine?
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Anonymous wrote:My teenager's ECNL team has had 22 on the roster this year, and it's worked out fine - actually, surprisingly well for all players. In the past I've criticized the club for having deep rosters, so I was skeptical at the beginning of the season. I credit the coach's management of the roster.


Do the same group of kids not play in league matches (actually not dress, thanks to substitution rules, most wont play in a given match)? Do the kids who don't dress for games think it is working out fine?


All 22 dress, only 18 are actually rostered. If not rostered, they still show up, participate in warm-ups and watch the game; and there's always the possibility of game day substitution (i.e., a rostered player wakes up sick on game day). Of course players are disappointed when they aren't rostered. But they're free to discuss the reason with the coach, and the coach provides meaningful feedback. Again, it works because of the team chemistry (players evenly matched, for the most part) and the thought the coach puts into selecting game day rosters.
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