Tufts

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Anonymous wrote:So how did Brandies get into the conversation. Isn't it ranked around 70? I don't feel like looking it up.

I looked up Brandeis, and USNews ranks it at #42, tied with Boston University, Case Western Reserve, UT-Austin, and UW-Madison.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we can end this by agreeing that Cornell, NW, Tufts and Emory are all great schools and very competitive to get in to. You need high scores, top grades and sometimes extra.

GT appeals to a specific market who are much more concerned with so called prestige and not the actual quality of education. Good for people with the money to pay for test prep who come from certain feeder schools but aren’t standouts in any way.

Brandeis and BC don’t belong in the same conversation. They’re a couple levels down.

I don’t think Brandeis and BC are at a much lower level. The big factor is that they look as if they have a strong religious and ethnic identity. They probably have high acceptance rates because only kids who are good fits for those schools apply to those schools. Aside from very ignorant kids, no kids are going to apply to those schools solely because they’re good schools in the Boston area.

This makes no sense. The level of academic excellence offered by Brandeis and BC is much lower than the other colleges mentioned above. They’re easier to get admitted to for that reason.

Emory, Tufts and Boston College all have a 75% of 34 ACT. What stats are you using?

PrepScholar says Brandeis, Boston University and Boston College have a 75% level of 33, so, really about as high.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we can end this by agreeing that Cornell, NW, Tufts and Emory are all great schools and very competitive to get in to. You need high scores, top grades and sometimes extra.

GT appeals to a specific market who are much more concerned with so called prestige and not the actual quality of education. Good for people with the money to pay for test prep who come from certain feeder schools but aren’t standouts in any way.

Brandeis and BC don’t belong in the same conversation. They’re a couple levels down.

I don’t think Brandeis and BC are at a much lower level. The big factor is that they look as if they have a strong religious and ethnic identity. They probably have high acceptance rates because only kids who are good fits for those schools apply to those schools. Aside from very ignorant kids, no kids are going to apply to those schools solely because they’re good schools in the Boston area.

This makes no sense. The level of academic excellence offered by Brandeis and BC is much lower than the other colleges mentioned above. They’re easier to get admitted to for that reason.

Emory, Tufts and Boston College all have a 75% of 34 ACT. What stats are you using?

Lol is the 75th percentile the only stay {sic} you use?

No, but it is one.

One more than you posted.

So answer the question, please.

I wasn't PP but I use imputs and outputs. How good were the students going in and how well did they do after graduation.
With that in mind Emory>Tufts>BC.
Emory has better placement for grad school and high-paying jobs, and better higher ranking programs than the other two, while Tufts has a bit higher stats than Emory. There's nothing BC does that Emory doesn't do better, while Tufts also is better than BC in a lot of areas.

Emory is a classic safety school. BC is somewhat better, then Tufts and Brandeis follow up the chain.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid said that Tufts is known for kids who didn’t get into Ivies.

That said, it seems like a great school, and will disagree with previous posters….we went to look in April, and it is a beautiful campus, IMHO.

You could say that of EVERY non-ivy school. The kids there didn’t get into Ivies. Whether or not they applied.

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Anonymous wrote:I went in the 90s and I liked it enough. Strong academics, safe campus, and there’s enough stuff to do. When I went it was an intelligent somewhat nerdy, crunchy granola student body. Lots of Birkenstock’s. Greek system was preppier but they represent a small portion of the student population. Overwhelmingly though the vibe from the place was ivy-reject with a chip on their shoulder and lackluster school spirit. Most students who were there didn’t want to be there and were vocal about it. It’s a good backup to Brown. It’s also good for engineering, pre med pre vet pre dentistry, IR. Other than that, I think the academics of other schools match it and have better student cultures. Outside of academia, no one really knows of tufts, haven’t encountered an alum in any of my corporate travels. I think most grads go on to grad school, med school, etc. I think tufts is good for a certain type of kid. A colleague’s son went for two years on a lacrosse scholarship and then transferred to UVA for the last two years. He says the academics at UVA were like high school compared to tufts, but the culture was way better. In hindsight no real regrets, but I would have had a blast at BC.

Ex graduated from Tufts in 2011 and I took a few classes there while attending BC. PP pretty much sums it up.

No real Greek or fraternity presence now as a DP mentioned. Fair number of international students. Plenty of people loved it there but the vast majority I met were OOS or transfers and eager to finish and move on. Academics are great. Campus, facilities, and surrounding area are very lackluster. Definitely lacks the name recognition and alumni network offered by other schools (higher and lower ranking); anyone who says otherwise falls into the small percentage of exceptions to the norm who loved it there. Overall, a good school but overrated and not worth the price tag.

On my phone so sorry for the jumble of thoughts there!

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Anonymous wrote:My kid said that Tufts is known for kids who didn’t get into Ivies.

That said, it seems like a great school, and will disagree with previous posters….we went to look in April, and it is a beautiful campus, IMHO.

You could say that of EVERY non-ivy school. The kids there didn’t get into Ivies. Whether or not they applied.

There are a select few who actually do opt for Tufts after getting into Ivies for fit. Not saying it’s the norm, but it happens. I think citing Tufts as a school of Ivy rejects is based on it falling just below them in selectivity and it being located adjacent to Harvard and MIT. So, a large portion of the student body aspired for an Ivy in Boston and ended up at Tufts.

Campus isn’t dreadful but is hardly “beautiful” as quoted PP suggests.

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NP with Tufts entering freshman. DD chose Tufts as a first choice after considering UPenn, Cornell, Amherst, Colorado College, Northwestern, and U of Chicago. Yes, it’s an eclectic list, but it also makes sense in many ways. DD ultimate chose Tufts over all the others based on community, academic strengths, size, location, and feel. We’re they an “Ivy Reject?” Perhaps they would have been if they applied but Tufts had more of aj appeal ajd they applied ED. Could not have been happier.

All this petty discourse about which school is better is pathetic. Regardless of scores and generic assertions about “placement,” the best school is the best fit - and that all…

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Why are there 11 pages of discussion about Tufts? It's a middling school outside of Boston. Probably 3rd or 4th most prestigious institution in the Boston area. No more, no less. Let's close the thread now.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid said that Tufts is known for kids who didn’t get into Ivies.

That said, it seems like a great school, and will disagree with previous posters….we went to look in April, and it is a beautiful campus, IMHO.

You could say that of EVERY non-ivy school. The kids there didn’t get into Ivies. Whether or not they applied.

There are a select few who actually do opt for Tufts after getting into Ivies for fit. Not saying it’s the norm, but it happens. I think citing Tufts as a school of Ivy rejects is based on it falling just below them in selectivity and it being located adjacent to Harvard and MIT. So, a large portion of the student body aspired for an Ivy in Boston and ended up at Tufts.

Campus isn’t dreadful but is hardly “beautiful” as quoted PP suggests.

A real stretch to say that Tufts falls just below the Ivy League in selectivity. Please stop this gaslighting. Tufts is a very fine school but nowhere near the Ivy League.

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Eleven pages and people can't come to a consensus about whether Tufts is a good school or not?

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Tufts falls just below the Ivies in terms of selectivity.
But it’s equal to the Ivies academically.
It’s a place where super smart motivated students who don’t want the pressure of an Ivy League or who don’t have the alumni connections, recruiting option or any underrepresented status choose. It’s extremely difficult to get into Tufts now. Tufts is leaps and bounds above the other Boston schools (except Harvard and MIT). The students who choose Tufts do so because they really want to go there — it’s not about pleasing prestige obsessed parents.
That’s it.

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Anonymous wrote:Tufts falls just below the Ivies in terms of selectivity.
But it’s equal to the Ivies academically.
It’s a place where super smart motivated students who don’t want the pressure of an Ivy League or who don’t have the alumni connections, recruiting option or any underrepresented status choose. It’s extremely difficult to get into Tufts now. Tufts is leaps and bounds above the other Boston schools (except Harvard and MIT). The students who choose Tufts do so because they really want to go there — it’s not about pleasing prestige obsessed parents.
That’s it.

Please stop. Tufts is not remotely as good of a school as you make it out to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Tufts falls just below the Ivies in terms of selectivity.
But it’s equal to the Ivies academically.
It’s a place where super smart motivated students who don’t want the pressure of an Ivy League or who don’t have the alumni connections, recruiting option or any underrepresented status choose. It’s extremely difficult to get into Tufts now. Tufts is leaps and bounds above the other Boston schools (except Harvard and MIT). The students who choose Tufts do so because they really want to go there — it’s not about pleasing prestige obsessed parents.
That’s it.

Please stop. Tufts is not remotely as good of a school as you make it out to be.

Those who get it, love it. Those who don’t, why argue? That’s the point the poster seems to be making. Fit.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are there 11 pages of discussion about Tufts? It's a middling school outside of Boston. Probably 3rd or 4th most prestigious institution in the Boston area. No more, no less. Let's close the thread now.

NP. 3 to 4 in Boston is hardly "middling". 1 to 2 any place else

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I couldn't get into ivies in the 90s and went to Tufts to do international relations. They have fantastic programs related to foreign studies and the Fletcher School/Harvard Kennedy school class availability is great. I loved it- loved the proximity to Boston while still having a campus. And glad I went there b/c it allowed me to get into Harvard Law- good enough school that great grades from there was enough for great law school