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Charlette Robinson.

What?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the foreign service, and my kids have done the IB curriculum in overseas schools. I really appreciate the interdisciplinary approach, and that it teaches kids how to think and write well. There's less reliance on worksheets and quizzes, and is more inquiry-based depending on the interests of the learner. I'm actually thinking of moving into the Robinson school district for the IB program, specifically.

+1 I'm a Robinson parent who purposefully chose it (even though we had the option to go to LBSS because our kids were in AAP). I prefer IB over AP. All the AP parents think there's nothing you can't get in AP that you get in IB, but it's just not accurate in my opinion. The AP courses don't seem as writing intensive, inquiry or lab-based as the IB courses.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that Principals get to decide if they are going to house a Level IV program at their school, at least i know that had been the case on the ES level. Our school is a language immersion school and the Principal, honestly I think it was most of the Teachers as well, did not want a Local Level IV in the school. Teacher friends I talked to about Level IV who teach at our school were pretty dismissive. So we did not have a Local Level IV program. That is changing this year, I believe that FCPS is now requiring all ES to have Local Level IV and that they have three years, including this year, to establish a program.

I suspect that MS have the same flexibility. If Robinson does not have AAP classes for the MS crowd, it is because it is not of interest to the Staff at the school and not enough parents have asked/demanded one. Honestly, the families at my ES are pretty happy with the base and very few kids attend the Center. That could be the case for the Robinson feeder ES.

Terra Centre elementary (Robinson pyramid) does have a local level 4 aAP center. The current 7th grade class at Robinson is the first AAP “class” at Terra Centre. FCPS is moving towards all schools offering local level 4 curriculum. So more Robinson pyramid kids will likely stay local level 4 versus going to the AAP center (at White Oaks in LBSS pyramid) and this will be less of an impact later.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the foreign service, and my kids have done the IB curriculum in overseas schools. I really appreciate the interdisciplinary approach, and that it teaches kids how to think and write well. There's less reliance on worksheets and quizzes, and is more inquiry-based depending on the interests of the learner. I'm actually thinking of moving into the Robinson school district for the IB program, specifically.

+1 I'm a Robinson parent who purposefully chose it (even though we had the option to go to LBSS because our kids were in AAP). I prefer IB over AP. All the AP parents think there's nothing you can't get in AP that you get in IB, but it's just not accurate in my opinion. The AP courses don't seem as writing intensive, inquiry or lab-based as the IB courses.

The latest Robinson SAT scores (Class of 2023) were actually below the county average and 26 points lower than at Lake Braddock.

Seems like the IB parents think there’s nothing you can get at an AP high school that you can’t get at an IB high school, but that’s just not accurate, apparently. The IB courses just don’t seem to teach as much.

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My kid did the IB diploma at Robinson and it was very rigorous. She was well-prepared when she got to a selective college.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the foreign service, and my kids have done the IB curriculum in overseas schools. I really appreciate the interdisciplinary approach, and that it teaches kids how to think and write well. There's less reliance on worksheets and quizzes, and is more inquiry-based depending on the interests of the learner. I'm actually thinking of moving into the Robinson school district for the IB program, specifically.

+1 I'm a Robinson parent who purposefully chose it (even though we had the option to go to LBSS because our kids were in AAP). I prefer IB over AP. All the AP parents think there's nothing you can't get in AP that you get in IB, but it's just not accurate in my opinion. The AP courses don't seem as writing intensive, inquiry or lab-based as the IB courses.

The latest Robinson SAT scores (Class of 2023) were actually below the county average and 26 points lower than at Lake Braddock.

Seems like the IB parents think there’s nothing you can get at an AP high school that you can’t get at an IB high school, but that’s just not accurate, apparently. The IB courses just don’t seem to teach as much.

AP courses cover a large quantity of topics within a subject area, but without exploring particular ones very deeply. IB courses cover a less broad range of areas in the subject but go much deeper into the topics covered

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the foreign service, and my kids have done the IB curriculum in overseas schools. I really appreciate the interdisciplinary approach, and that it teaches kids how to think and write well. There's less reliance on worksheets and quizzes, and is more inquiry-based depending on the interests of the learner. I'm actually thinking of moving into the Robinson school district for the IB program, specifically.

+1 I'm a Robinson parent who purposefully chose it (even though we had the option to go to LBSS because our kids were in AAP). I prefer IB over AP. All the AP parents think there's nothing you can't get in AP that you get in IB, but it's just not accurate in my opinion. The AP courses don't seem as writing intensive, inquiry or lab-based as the IB courses.

The latest Robinson SAT scores (Class of 2023) were actually below the county average and 26 points lower than at Lake Braddock.

Seems like the IB parents think there’s nothing you can get at an AP high school that you can’t get at an IB high school, but that’s just not accurate, apparently. The IB courses just don’t seem to teach as much.

AP courses cover a large quantity of topics within a subject area, but without exploring particular ones very deeply. IB courses cover a less broad range of areas in the subject but go much deeper into the topics covered

AP courses are more akin to introductory college “survey” courses, whereas IB courses have a narrower scope that can leave kids with gaps in a subject area. Not surprised LBSS kids are doing better on their SATs.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the foreign service, and my kids have done the IB curriculum in overseas schools. I really appreciate the interdisciplinary approach, and that it teaches kids how to think and write well. There's less reliance on worksheets and quizzes, and is more inquiry-based depending on the interests of the learner. I'm actually thinking of moving into the Robinson school district for the IB program, specifically.

+1 I'm a Robinson parent who purposefully chose it (even though we had the option to go to LBSS because our kids were in AAP). I prefer IB over AP. All the AP parents think there's nothing you can't get in AP that you get in IB, but it's just not accurate in my opinion. The AP courses don't seem as writing intensive, inquiry or lab-based as the IB courses.

The latest Robinson SAT scores (Class of 2023) were actually below the county average and 26 points lower than at Lake Braddock.

Seems like the IB parents think there’s nothing you can get at an AP high school that you can’t get at an IB high school, but that’s just not accurate, apparently. The IB courses just don’t seem to teach as much.

The SATs cover lower-level material learned before AP and IB courses begin (geometry, algebra I and II, some early pre-calc/stats, and basic English). IB and AP courses have nothing to do with SATs.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the foreign service, and my kids have done the IB curriculum in overseas schools. I really appreciate the interdisciplinary approach, and that it teaches kids how to think and write well. There's less reliance on worksheets and quizzes, and is more inquiry-based depending on the interests of the learner. I'm actually thinking of moving into the Robinson school district for the IB program, specifically.

+1 I'm a Robinson parent who purposefully chose it (even though we had the option to go to LBSS because our kids were in AAP). I prefer IB over AP. All the AP parents think there's nothing you can't get in AP that you get in IB, but it's just not accurate in my opinion. The AP courses don't seem as writing intensive, inquiry or lab-based as the IB courses.

The latest Robinson SAT scores (Class of 2023) were actually below the county average and 26 points lower than at Lake Braddock.

Seems like the IB parents think there’s nothing you can get at an AP high school that you can’t get at an IB high school, but that’s just not accurate, apparently. The IB courses just don’t seem to teach as much.

The SATs cover lower-level material learned before AP and IB courses begin (geometry, algebra I and II, some early pre-calc/stats, and basic English). IB and AP courses have nothing to do with SATs.

You’re not going to impress anyone because you took an IB course if you’ve never mastered or can’t even retain the lower-level material. And the current trend is for top schools to reverse the “test optional” approach of the Covid years and require SAT or ACT scores.

FCPS has been dropping the ball in many areas and Robinson kids pay the price.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the foreign service, and my kids have done the IB curriculum in overseas schools. I really appreciate the interdisciplinary approach, and that it teaches kids how to think and write well. There's less reliance on worksheets and quizzes, and is more inquiry-based depending on the interests of the learner. I'm actually thinking of moving into the Robinson school district for the IB program, specifically.

+1 I'm a Robinson parent who purposefully chose it (even though we had the option to go to LBSS because our kids were in AAP). I prefer IB over AP. All the AP parents think there's nothing you can't get in AP that you get in IB, but it's just not accurate in my opinion. The AP courses don't seem as writing intensive, inquiry or lab-based as the IB courses.

The latest Robinson SAT scores (Class of 2023) were actually below the county average and 26 points lower than at Lake Braddock.

Seems like the IB parents think there’s nothing you can get at an AP high school that you can’t get at an IB high school, but that’s just not accurate, apparently. The IB courses just don’t seem to teach as much.

The SATs cover lower-level material learned before AP and IB courses begin (geometry, algebra I and II, some early pre-calc/stats, and basic English). IB and AP courses have nothing to do with SATs.

You’re not going to impress anyone because you took an IB course if you’ve never mastered or can’t even retain the lower-level material. And the current trend is for top schools to reverse the “test optional” approach of the Covid years and require SAT or ACT scores.

FCPS has been dropping the ball in many areas and Robinson kids pay the price.

Historically LBSS was a fairly decent middle-tier AAP feeder to TJ which attracted a lot of TJ-prepped parents and kids from that area. This year only 12 kids got into TJ from Lake Braddock. We are seeing more of those kids stay at LBSS now that they aren't getting into TJ, and it's fair to assume the mean SAT score will have a slight bump because of that. Langley and McLean show a similar pattern.

But keep in mind, it's because those particular kids denied TJ admission are now staying behind and boosting the mean SAT scores, not because LBSS is specifically helping average Johnny do any better.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the foreign service, and my kids have done the IB curriculum in overseas schools. I really appreciate the interdisciplinary approach, and that it teaches kids how to think and write well. There's less reliance on worksheets and quizzes, and is more inquiry-based depending on the interests of the learner. I'm actually thinking of moving into the Robinson school district for the IB program, specifically.

+1 I'm a Robinson parent who purposefully chose it (even though we had the option to go to LBSS because our kids were in AAP). I prefer IB over AP. All the AP parents think there's nothing you can't get in AP that you get in IB, but it's just not accurate in my opinion. The AP courses don't seem as writing intensive, inquiry or lab-based as the IB courses.

The latest Robinson SAT scores (Class of 2023) were actually below the county average and 26 points lower than at Lake Braddock.

Seems like the IB parents think there’s nothing you can get at an AP high school that you can’t get at an IB high school, but that’s just not accurate, apparently. The IB courses just don’t seem to teach as much.

The SATs cover lower-level material learned before AP and IB courses begin (geometry, algebra I and II, some early pre-calc/stats, and basic English). IB and AP courses have nothing to do with SATs.

You’re not going to impress anyone because you took an IB course if you’ve never mastered or can’t even retain the lower-level material. And the current trend is for top schools to reverse the “test optional” approach of the Covid years and require SAT or ACT scores.

FCPS has been dropping the ball in many areas and Robinson kids pay the price.

Historically LBSS was a fairly decent middle-tier AAP feeder to TJ which attracted a lot of TJ-prepped parents and kids from that area. This year only 12 kids got into TJ from Lake Braddock. We are seeing more of those kids stay at LBSS now that they aren't getting into TJ, and it's fair to assume the mean SAT score will have a slight bump because of that. Langley and McLean show a similar pattern.

But keep in mind, it's because those particular kids denied TJ admission are now staying behind and boosting the mean SAT scores, not because LBSS is specifically helping average Johnny do any better.

Unless you can back that up with hard data, you’re just guessing here.

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Anonymous wrote:It's still confusing.

So, basically, Robinson would be higher performing if it had an AAP center in the pyramid that fed into its middle school? Otherwise, taking the school at face value, it's an IB school that is middle of the road among the FCPS schools, its not diverse, it's not poor, and it's large but well run?

I just don't know why I don't hear much about Robinson on here. Is it because it's just a content school? Parents don't hate it? Neighboring schools view it as a non-entity? A large one, but not one that would be a comparator because of IB?

I live in the Robinson pyramid and my kid is in AAP. And while Lake Braddock is our middle school, we live closer to Woodson. Does that mean we can't pupil place? Our neighbors kids went to Woodson, so I am trying to figure out if this is just another planning fail for FCPS (pulling AAP out of an entire pyramid that probably could support a center) or if there's something else.

What's messed up is that we live about a five minute walk from Robinson. I'd hate to force my kids to bus for access to AAP.

It’s not confusing if you look at your child (you should know this person and consider them AND NOT YOU) in this decision. It’s a good time to stop crowd sourcing your parenting responsibilities and talk to your kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the foreign service, and my kids have done the IB curriculum in overseas schools. I really appreciate the interdisciplinary approach, and that it teaches kids how to think and write well. There's less reliance on worksheets and quizzes, and is more inquiry-based depending on the interests of the learner. I'm actually thinking of moving into the Robinson school district for the IB program, specifically.

+1 I'm a Robinson parent who purposefully chose it (even though we had the option to go to LBSS because our kids were in AAP). I prefer IB over AP. All the AP parents think there's nothing you can't get in AP that you get in IB, but it's just not accurate in my opinion. The AP courses don't seem as writing intensive, inquiry or lab-based as the IB courses.

The latest Robinson SAT scores (Class of 2023) were actually below the county average and 26 points lower than at Lake Braddock.

Seems like the IB parents think there’s nothing you can get at an AP high school that you can’t get at an IB high school, but that’s just not accurate, apparently. The IB courses just don’t seem to teach as much.

The SATs cover lower-level material learned before AP and IB courses begin (geometry, algebra I and II, some early pre-calc/stats, and basic English). IB and AP courses have nothing to do with SATs.

You’re not going to impress anyone because you took an IB course if you’ve never mastered or can’t even retain the lower-level material. And the current trend is for top schools to reverse the “test optional” approach of the Covid years and require SAT or ACT scores.

FCPS has been dropping the ball in many areas and Robinson kids pay the price.

Robinson is the only high school that does not have an AAP feeder school. That is the explanation for SAT scores. Which have historically been roughly the same as LBSS (some years Robinson is higher, some years LBSS is higher) which DOES have an AAP feeder school and is AP. That this one year there's a difference (I haven't even looked) doesn't tell you much.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the foreign service, and my kids have done the IB curriculum in overseas schools. I really appreciate the interdisciplinary approach, and that it teaches kids how to think and write well. There's less reliance on worksheets and quizzes, and is more inquiry-based depending on the interests of the learner. I'm actually thinking of moving into the Robinson school district for the IB program, specifically.

+1 I'm a Robinson parent who purposefully chose it (even though we had the option to go to LBSS because our kids were in AAP). I prefer IB over AP. All the AP parents think there's nothing you can't get in AP that you get in IB, but it's just not accurate in my opinion. The AP courses don't seem as writing intensive, inquiry or lab-based as the IB courses.

The latest Robinson SAT scores (Class of 2023) were actually below the county average and 26 points lower than at Lake Braddock.

Seems like the IB parents think there’s nothing you can get at an AP high school that you can’t get at an IB high school, but that’s just not accurate, apparently. The IB courses just don’t seem to teach as much.

The SATs cover lower-level material learned before AP and IB courses begin (geometry, algebra I and II, some early pre-calc/stats, and basic English). IB and AP courses have nothing to do with SATs.

You’re not going to impress anyone because you took an IB course if you’ve never mastered or can’t even retain the lower-level material. And the current trend is for top schools to reverse the “test optional” approach of the Covid years and require SAT or ACT scores.

FCPS has been dropping the ball in many areas and Robinson kids pay the price.

Robinson is the only high school that does not have an AAP feeder school. That is the explanation for SAT scores. Which have historically been roughly the same as LBSS (some years Robinson is higher, some years LBSS is higher) which DOES have an AAP feeder school and is AP. That this one year there's a difference (I haven't even looked) doesn't tell you much.

Not true. Annandale doesn’t have an AAP feeder school.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the foreign service, and my kids have done the IB curriculum in overseas schools. I really appreciate the interdisciplinary approach, and that it teaches kids how to think and write well. There's less reliance on worksheets and quizzes, and is more inquiry-based depending on the interests of the learner. I'm actually thinking of moving into the Robinson school district for the IB program, specifically.

+1 I'm a Robinson parent who purposefully chose it (even though we had the option to go to LBSS because our kids were in AAP). I prefer IB over AP. All the AP parents think there's nothing you can't get in AP that you get in IB, but it's just not accurate in my opinion. The AP courses don't seem as writing intensive, inquiry or lab-based as the IB courses.

The latest Robinson SAT scores (Class of 2023) were actually below the county average and 26 points lower than at Lake Braddock.

Seems like the IB parents think there’s nothing you can get at an AP high school that you can’t get at an IB high school, but that’s just not accurate, apparently. The IB courses just don’t seem to teach as much.

The SATs cover lower-level material learned before AP and IB courses begin (geometry, algebra I and II, some early pre-calc/stats, and basic English). IB and AP courses have nothing to do with SATs.

You’re not going to impress anyone because you took an IB course if you’ve never mastered or can’t even retain the lower-level material. And the current trend is for top schools to reverse the “test optional” approach of the Covid years and require SAT or ACT scores.

FCPS has been dropping the ball in many areas and Robinson kids pay the price.

Robinson is the only high school that does not have an AAP feeder school. That is the explanation for SAT scores. Which have historically been roughly the same as LBSS (some years Robinson is higher, some years LBSS is higher) which DOES have an AAP feeder school and is AP. That this one year there's a difference (I haven't even looked) doesn't tell you much.

Not true. Annandale doesn’t have an AAP feeder school.

Ok, Robinson is one of the very few high schools that doesn't have an AAP feeder and it has consistently been strong/equivalent with schools that do in terms of SAT scores.