Either find a way to open schools, or send me a stimulus check so I can pay for childcare.

[Anonymous]

Hi OP - I didn't comb through this thread at all, but just wanted to say you should look into the Boy's and Girl's club. I don't know where you're located, but there are a few that are doing virtual learning hubs and it's very reasonably priced. It's not free, but it's cheaper than anything else I've come across. We already pay for full time daycare for a 3 year old; we can't afford full time daycare for a second grader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If schools are a public good, and we don't have them anymore, then maybe we should all get our school tax dollars back. Like in the form of a... check... like OP is asking for.

I think if suddenly the roads just disappeared, we'd all want our money back on that one too.

WE HAVE SCHOOLS! Our children are being taught. My kid is in middle school and believe me, they are learning a lot, and furthermore, in some ways, it's beneficial to my kid NOT to have the disruptions that inevitably took place in in-person learning. Now whether you LIKE the way they're being taught, whether you feel your children are learning as well as they would in school (which I can see might not be the case for elementary school), and whether you are entitled enough to believe that everyone else should be forced to put themselves and their families at risk because your child needs more support is a different thing, but it does not negate that schools are open and they haven't "disappeared."

It's almost as though you think there's no global pandemic going on and schools were closed on some whim of the teachers' union. (By the way, Massachusetts and other states with rising caseloads have started closing the schools they opened, and that is another state with a strong teachers' union.)

Yes, middle school and high school students are getting what they need. Early elementary children are not. Why is this so hard for people to understand? 1st and 2nd graders (much less ECE kids) cannot learn this way longterm. And it requires full-time oversight by a parent or caregiver to make it work. I'm sure your MS kid going for long stretches of the day on his own. Meanwhile, early elementary parents are spending their entire days sitting next to their kids (or hiring someone full time to do it).

Thus why OP and others would like either schools to open for the lower grades, or some government assistance since it is not possible to do oversee a young child's education full time while also working full time (in most jobs, I know there are posters on here who will claim they are doing it, but they either have outlier kids or outlier jobs -- that is not the typical experience).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If schools are a public good, and we don't have them anymore, then maybe we should all get our school tax dollars back. Like in the form of a... check... like OP is asking for.

I think if suddenly the roads just disappeared, we'd all want our money back on that one too.

WE HAVE SCHOOLS! Our children are being taught. My kid is in middle school and believe me, they are learning a lot, and furthermore, in some ways, it's beneficial to my kid NOT to have the disruptions that inevitably took place in in-person learning. Now whether you LIKE the way they're being taught, whether you feel your children are learning as well as they would in school (which I can see might not be the case for elementary school), and whether you are entitled enough to believe that everyone else should be forced to put themselves and their families at risk because your child needs more support is a different thing, but it does not negate that schools are open and they haven't "disappeared."

It's almost as though you think there's no global pandemic going on and schools were closed on some whim of the teachers' union. (By the way, Massachusetts and other states with rising caseloads have started closing the schools they opened, and that is another state with a strong teachers' union.)

Yes, middle school and high school students are getting what they need. Early elementary children are not. Why is this so hard for people to understand? 1st and 2nd graders (much less ECE kids) cannot learn this way longterm. And it requires full-time oversight by a parent or caregiver to make it work. I'm sure your MS kid going for long stretches of the day on his own. Meanwhile, early elementary parents are spending their entire days sitting next to their kids (or hiring someone full time to do it).

Thus why OP and others would like either schools to open for the lower grades, or some government assistance since it is not possible to do oversee a young child's education full time while also working full time (in most jobs, I know there are posters on here who will claim they are doing it, but they either have outlier kids or outlier jobs -- that is not the typical experience).

Child care is not the governments responsibility. Its the parents responsibility. You either go to places like the boys and girls club, get a voucher or figure it out.