It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm half Irish and half Slav (both were oppressed and made slaves of England and the Roman empire). Where is my reparations?

Take it up with Parliment and the Vatican, otherwise you are barking up the wrong tree

Really? My grandfather used to tell us about the time when he would go looking for work in the city and businesses had signs sayng, "Help wanted. Irish need not apply." So again, where are reparations for Irish Americans?

For refusing to give you grandfather a job? How old are you? Welcome to reality of unemployment. Was your ancestor held in chains when he went looking for a job? Was he refused a seat on a train? Even if you are 60, your grandfather was likely born in early 1900, so truly by then Slav, Italian immigration replaced the Irish as victims of the slums and no jobs. As for the English treating Irish like subhuman, yep true. That is who Americans got it from.

Yeah, no. It's not the same thing. The US system was really not against your family for very long and it certainly isn't now.

I wouldn't say my family is owed reparations from the USA and I'm part Japanese and part Jewish (among other things, but those are the two relevant here). The slightly stronger argument is for the Japanese side due to the internment camps, though I still don't think it rises to nearly the level of oppression against black people or Native Americans. As for the Jewish side, that's much more complicated, but still -- at this point, the system itself is not built to push us down, despite anti-semitism that is rising to sort of scary levels right now.

This whole thing is tough. My family all came here through Ellis Island in the 1910s/1920s. Every single last name my family now has is fake because the Ellis Island officials told them "you won't get a job with that name." Was that tough? Absolutely. My mom and uncle were called Japs on the streets of NYC in the 50s.

But black people and Native Americans are still ahead of us in line for reparations, IMO.

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Anonymous wrote:Just as America closed her big blue eyes to 400 years of slavery and systemic racism, Monetary reparations is the latest obstacle for White America to overcome and accept. White America had a 400 year head start. With such profound advantages, Some white individuals became CEOs while others languished in poverty.

An undeniable tenet, it takes money to make money. Lack of opportunities and capital, largely, explains the huge socioeconomic gap between Whites and Blacks. How many black sons would not have to turn to gangs and drugs if parents were middle class and better outlets were available to them?

And you wonder why people don't take reparations seriously...

Above pp has a very good point and is right. You need to ask yourself why you are racist? Usually it has to do with being unhappy with who you are and hate towards yourself that you project to others who do not look just like you.

No she doesn't. Sorry.

Then how do you explain the economic gap between white people and black people in the US?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately, there are some problems in the black community that only the black community can fix. And white liberals are sending the message that everything is white people’s fault and that black people don’t have to change anything. This will just result in more of the same and nothing will ever change, even if a bunch of money is thrown at the problems.

How can the black community fix the wealth gap/economic inequality on its own?

A start would be to not do drugs, get an education and not get pregnant out of wedlock.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just as America closed her big blue eyes to 400 years of slavery and systemic racism, Monetary reparations is the latest obstacle for White America to overcome and accept. White America had a 400 year head start. With such profound advantages, Some white individuals became CEOs while others languished in poverty.

An undeniable tenet, it takes money to make money. Lack of opportunities and capital, largely, explains the huge socioeconomic gap between Whites and Blacks. How many black sons would not have to turn to gangs and drugs if parents were middle class and better outlets were available to them?

And you wonder why people don't take reparations seriously...

Above pp has a very good point and is right. You need to ask yourself why you are racist? Usually it has to do with being unhappy with who you are and hate towards yourself that you project to others who do not look just like you.

No she doesn't. Sorry.

Then how do you explain the economic gap between white people and black people in the US?

Not slavery. Current issues that we can address, on the local, state, and federal level. But focusing on reparations ain't it.

[Anonymous]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/04/economic-divide-black-households/

In 1968, a typical middle-class black household had $6,674 in wealth compared with $70,786 for the typical middle-class white household, according to data from the historical Survey of Consumer Finances that has been adjusted for inflation. In 2016, the typical middle-class black household had $13,024 in wealth versus $149,703 for the median white household, an even larger gap in percentage terms.

[Anonymous]

How much money, exactly, do people want in reparations? I'm unclear on this given that I did a find in the article for $ and while I saw a lot of information, the item missing was how much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Just as America closed her big blue eyes to 400 years of slavery and systemic racism, Monetary reparations is the latest obstacle for White America to overcome and accept. White America had a 400 year head start. With such profound advantages, Some white individuals became CEOs while others languished in poverty.

An undeniable tenet, it takes money to make money. Lack of opportunities and capital, largely, explains the huge socioeconomic gap between Whites and Blacks. How many black sons would not have to turn to gangs and drugs if parents were middle class and better outlets were available to them?

And you wonder why people don't take reparations seriously...

Above pp has a very good point and is right. You need to ask yourself why you are racist? Usually it has to do with being unhappy with who you are and hate towards yourself that you project to others who do not look just like you.

No she doesn't. Sorry.

Then how do you explain the economic gap between white people and black people in the US?

That's not how logic works. *YOU* are the one making the claim that the wealth gap is caused by [insert your reason], it's up to you to prove that this is indeed the cause, not for others to give you an alternative reason.

[Anonymous]

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/04/economic-divide-black-households/

In 1968, a typical middle-class black household had $6,674 in wealth compared with $70,786 for the typical middle-class white household, according to data from the historical Survey of Consumer Finances that has been adjusted for inflation. In 2016, the typical middle-class black household had $13,024 in wealth versus $149,703 for the median white household, an even larger gap in percentage terms.

There's a reason that Bush wanted every family, every black family, to buy a house, to be homeowners. Too bad it didn't work out well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How much money, exactly, do people want in reparations? I'm unclear on this given that I did a find in the article for $ and while I saw a lot of information, the item missing was how much.

The most recent figure places the overall wealth gap between white families and black families at about 10 Trillion dollars, which would result in about a 800k payout to each black family.

[Anonymous]

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/04/economic-divide-black-households/

In 1968, a typical middle-class black household had $6,674 in wealth compared with $70,786 for the typical middle-class white household, according to data from the historical Survey of Consumer Finances that has been adjusted for inflation. In 2016, the typical middle-class black household had $13,024 in wealth versus $149,703 for the median white household, an even larger gap in percentage terms.

There's a reason that Bush wanted every family, every black family, to buy a house, to be homeowners. Too bad it didn't work out well.

^ The wealth gap that you described is the difference between renting and homeownership, a forced savings vehicle. Homeownership is built-in wealth, but it's still not for everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately, there are some problems in the black community that only the black community can fix. And white liberals are sending the message that everything is white people’s fault and that black people don’t have to change anything. This will just result in more of the same and nothing will ever change, even if a bunch of money is thrown at the problems.

How can the black community fix the wealth gap/economic inequality on its own?

Maybe they can ask Asians how they did it. Maybe a cross-race mentorship program or something.

[Anonymous]

A financial payout will probably not work.

Look at what happens when people win the lottery.

Help has to come in the form of support for education and everyday support for black businesses and neighborhoods. And this education has to include financial literacy, family counseling, business literacy etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately, there are some problems in the black community that only the black community can fix. And white liberals are sending the message that everything is white people’s fault and that black people don’t have to change anything. This will just result in more of the same and nothing will ever change, even if a bunch of money is thrown at the problems.

How can the black community fix the wealth gap/economic inequality on its own?

Maybe they can ask Asians how they did it. Maybe a cross-race mentorship program or something.

This. Again, it is hard work, education, no drugs, no out of wedlock pregnancies, and delayed gratification. If the black community can do these things, many of their problems can be solved. But they have to be the ones to do it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately, there are some problems in the black community that only the black community can fix. And white liberals are sending the message that everything is white people’s fault and that black people don’t have to change anything. This will just result in more of the same and nothing will ever change, even if a bunch of money is thrown at the problems.

How can the black community fix the wealth gap/economic inequality on its own?

Maybe they can ask Asians how they did it. Maybe a cross-race mentorship program or something.

Yeah. And maybe they can teach Asians and other recent immigrant communities to fight for their rights instead of running away to another country.

[Anonymous]

Time to stop feeding the OP.