If atheism is not a relgion, why they want to convert everyone!

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Anonymous wrote:Any atheists want to address this semantic question about whether atheists’ insults=conversion? I’m actually open on this. Sometimes down-in-the-mud is just down-in-the mud, where people who have an emotional need to insult/bully others end up.

It looks like you just want to keep whining about how you can’t abuse people with impunity, or derail threads, though.

Insults are not necessary when discussing one's lack of belief, and anyone who does that weakens their own position and risks not being taken seriously.

Please note the very fact that non-insulting posts expressing non-belief were deleted from this very thread. If that doesn't tell you how hard it is to be taken seriously as a non-believer, than nothing will. Using insults just makes being shut down easier. We must take the high road, always.

Look, the moderator is an atheist. Also, the moderator doesn’t delete stuff just because it’s reported—he wouldn’t have a Political forum if that were the case.

Despite your pretense of innocence, you obviously did something.
— phony definition of “insult” that you use to justify insulting people. I’ve actually seen posters argue here that “fairytales” isn’t an insult because they insist religion really is fairytales.
— derailing a thread with some version of the long whinge you’re posting here, when everybody is telling you to start your own thread. This is why you got deleted? You guys derail all the time (as if you hate to see religious people discussing religion or something), and I guess I’ll pretend to believe that you weren’t insulting anybody. So this is my bet.

Notably, you guys are all over the feedback forum, but right now you aren’t there asking Jeff why he deleted your so-called innocent post.

Did he explicitly say that? I don't get that impression.

He has said that. I’ve been on DCUM way too long.

PP here. I have never visited the feedback forum.

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“The trick is to rise above” just excuses the constant insults. No, the moderator didn’t create this forum so one group can insult the other with impunity. The proof is that he deletes the insults.

If you “don’t know any” atheists who use insults here, then either you joined this forum today, or you’re part of the crowd that thinks “fairy tales/ Christofacism” aren’t insults but just statements of facts. That’s not an honest position and you know it as well as everybody else here, and as well as the moderator, who deletes all the insults.

No, I am not new here, but i was speaking of those I know personally and those I know of in the community.

I doubt very much OP was talking about people who simply say “I’m an atheist.” Nobody here cares—TPK hat’s why you’ve talked about your atheism a dozen times on this thread yet your (insult-free) posts are still up. It’s all about the insults.

But hey, stop arguing with me about the purity and “thoughtfulness” of the deleted atheist posts. And stop whining. Just ask the moderator why he deleted these putatively, insult-free, totally on-topic posts.

Now who is insulting?

The problem we’ve identified is the deletion of your posts and posts by other atheists on DCUM. This is an anonymous online forum, which attracts bullies in a way you probably don’t see among your atheist friends in the community.

It seems clear that you said something offensive and that’s why your posts were deleted. Nobody here is offended by someone saying “I’m an atheist,” in fact you’ve been saying that for pages with no repercussions, so you need to stop pretending that’s the problem. If you really can’t figure out why your posts are offensive enough to warrant deletion, then you need to ask the moderator who deleted them. It might be a learning opportunity for you.

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The problem we’ve identified is the deletion of your posts and posts by other atheists on DCUM. This is an anonymous online forum, which attracts bullies in a way you probably don’t see among your atheist friends in the community.

It seems clear that you said something offensive and that’s why your posts were deleted. Nobody here is offended by someone saying “I’m an atheist,” in fact you’ve been saying that for pages with no repercussions, so you need to stop pretending that’s the problem. If you really can’t figure out why your posts are offensive enough to warrant deletion, then you need to ask the moderator who deleted them. It might be a learning opportunity for you.

I disagree with the premise of your post. Not only did I not say anything that was insulting, but entire dialogues -- with posts from both sides -- were deleted. This includes the posts I was responding to.

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The problem we’ve identified is the deletion of your posts and posts by other atheists on DCUM. This is an anonymous online forum, which attracts bullies in a way you probably don’t see among your atheist friends in the community.

It seems clear that you said something offensive and that’s why your posts were deleted. Nobody here is offended by someone saying “I’m an atheist,” in fact you’ve been saying that for pages with no repercussions, so you need to stop pretending that’s the problem. If you really can’t figure out why your posts are offensive enough to warrant deletion, then you need to ask the moderator who deleted them. It might be a learning opportunity for you.

I disagree with the premise of your post. Not only did I not say anything that was insulting, but entire dialogues -- with posts from both sides -- were deleted. This includes the posts I was responding to.

Ask the moderator. I can’t help you because I don’t know the posts you’re talking about. Start a thread on the feedback forum to ask him.

I think you’ll find, however, that the moderator, who is an atheist himself, doesn’t delete without reason. Whether you realize or are willing to acknowledge it, you or another atheist said something offensive, or derailed the thread with your personal agenda. Then, deleting an offensive post sometimes does require deleting responses to that post, so the offensive post disappears entirely and the thread makes sense afterwards.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question:

It's not an atheist thing or a Christian thing. It's a people thing. Some people simply want to share what they believe to be the truth with others so they too can enjoy the wonderful life one is living within their belief system.

Others, on the other hand, are more private about their religious or nonreligious beliefs.

Seems like you have simply run into some atheists who would like to share with you. Not unusual. One runs into Christians with the same idea all the time.

To some extent.

But some religions actively encourage their believers to proselytize.

Is it a more personal thing with atheists who insult believers, even believers who aren’t proselytizing? What motivates an atheist to insult believers who say, just having a conversation about what they’d do if they were God? It definitely seems aimed at changing minds, at moving people away from religion.

Many people like to be snarky on the internets. That's not proselytizing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any atheists want to address this semantic question about whether atheists’ insults=conversion? I’m actually open on this. Sometimes down-in-the-mud is just down-in-the mud, where people who have an emotional need to insult/bully others end up.

It looks like you just want to keep whining about how you can’t abuse people with impunity, or derail threads, though.

Insults are not necessary when discussing one's lack of belief, and anyone who does that weakens their own position and risks not being taken seriously.

Please note the very fact that non-insulting posts expressing non-belief were deleted from this very thread. If that doesn't tell you how hard it is to be taken seriously as a non-believer, than nothing will. Using insults just makes being shut down easier. We must take the high road, always.

Look, the moderator is an atheist. Also, the moderator doesn’t delete stuff just because it’s reported—he wouldn’t have a Political forum if that were the case.

Despite your pretense of innocence, you obviously did something.
— phony definition of “insult” that you use to justify insulting people. I’ve actually seen posters argue here that “fairytales” isn’t an insult because they insist religion really is fairytales.
— derailing a thread with some version of the long whinge you’re posting here, when everybody is telling you to start your own thread. This is why you got deleted? You guys derail all the time (as if you hate to see religious people discussing religion or something), and I guess I’ll pretend to believe that you weren’t insulting anybody. So this is my bet.

Notably, you guys are all over the feedback forum, but right now you aren’t there asking Jeff why he deleted your so-called innocent post.

Did he explicitly say that? I don't get that impression.

He has said that. I’ve been on DCUM way too long.

I don't remember that. I've been on here a long time too. Was this a recent thing?

[Anonymous]

^ I've been trying to avoid the nasty atheist haters so I haven't been paying close attention to this forum recently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question:

It's not an atheist thing or a Christian thing. It's a people thing. Some people simply want to share what they believe to be the truth with others so they too can enjoy the wonderful life one is living within their belief system.

Others, on the other hand, are more private about their religious or nonreligious beliefs.

Seems like you have simply run into some atheists who would like to share with you. Not unusual. One runs into Christians with the same idea all the time.

Some of them even knock on your door to share.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question:

It's not an atheist thing or a Christian thing. It's a people thing. Some people simply want to share what they believe to be the truth with others so they too can enjoy the wonderful life one is living within their belief system.

Others, on the other hand, are more private about their religious or nonreligious beliefs.

Seems like you have simply run into some atheists who would like to share with you. Not unusual. One runs into Christians with the same idea all the time.

To some extent.

But some religions actively encourage their believers to proselytize.

Is it a more personal thing with atheists who insult believers, even believers who aren’t proselytizing? What motivates an atheist to insult believers who say, just having a conversation about what they’d do if they were God? It definitely seems aimed at changing minds, at moving people away from religion.

Many people like to be snarky on the internets. That's not proselytizing.

But it is trying to change minds. And don’t whine when your offensive snark gets deleted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question:

It's not an atheist thing or a Christian thing. It's a people thing. Some people simply want to share what they believe to be the truth with others so they too can enjoy the wonderful life one is living within their belief system.

Others, on the other hand, are more private about their religious or nonreligious beliefs.

Seems like you have simply run into some atheists who would like to share with you. Not unusual. One runs into Christians with the same idea all the time.

To some extent.

But some religions actively encourage their believers to proselytize.

Is it a more personal thing with atheists who insult believers, even believers who aren’t proselytizing? What motivates an atheist to insult believers who say, just having a conversation about what they’d do if they were God? It definitely seems aimed at changing minds, at moving people away from religion.

Many people like to be snarky on the internets. That's not proselytizing.

But it is trying to change minds. And don’t whine when your offensive snark gets deleted.

I don’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question:

It's not an atheist thing or a Christian thing. It's a people thing. Some people simply want to share what they believe to be the truth with others so they too can enjoy the wonderful life one is living within their belief system.

Others, on the other hand, are more private about their religious or nonreligious beliefs.

Seems like you have simply run into some atheists who would like to share with you. Not unusual. One runs into Christians with the same idea all the time.

To some extent.

But some religions actively encourage their believers to proselytize.

Is it a more personal thing with atheists who insult believers, even believers who aren’t proselytizing? What motivates an atheist to insult believers who say, just having a conversation about what they’d do if they were God? It definitely seems aimed at changing minds, at moving people away from religion.

Many people like to be snarky on the internets. That's not proselytizing.

It’s not mature, mentally well-adjusted, either. Are you the President? Do better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question:

It's not an atheist thing or a Christian thing. It's a people thing. Some people simply want to share what they believe to be the truth with others so they too can enjoy the wonderful life one is living within their belief system.

Others, on the other hand, are more private about their religious or nonreligious beliefs.

Seems like you have simply run into some atheists who would like to share with you. Not unusual. One runs into Christians with the same idea all the time.

To some extent.

But some religions actively encourage their believers to proselytize.

Is it a more personal thing with atheists who insult believers, even believers who aren’t proselytizing? What motivates an atheist to insult believers who say, just having a conversation about what they’d do if they were God? It definitely seems aimed at changing minds, at moving people away from religion.

Many people like to be snarky on the internets. That's not proselytizing.

It’s not mature, mentally well-adjusted, either. Are you the President? Do better.

Meh. Just trying to explain “motivations”. Calling out someone’s ignorance is the sport. Not changing minds. Not proselytizing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question:

It's not an atheist thing or a Christian thing. It's a people thing. Some people simply want to share what they believe to be the truth with others so they too can enjoy the wonderful life one is living within their belief system.

Others, on the other hand, are more private about their religious or nonreligious beliefs.

Seems like you have simply run into some atheists who would like to share with you. Not unusual. One runs into Christians with the same idea all the time.

To some extent.

But some religions actively encourage their believers to proselytize.

Is it a more personal thing with atheists who insult believers, even believers who aren’t proselytizing? What motivates an atheist to insult believers who say, just having a conversation about what they’d do if they were God? It definitely seems aimed at changing minds, at moving people away from religion.

Many people like to be snarky on the internets. That's not proselytizing.

It’s not mature, mentally well-adjusted, either. Are you the President? Do better.

Meh. Just trying to explain “motivations”. Calling out someone’s ignorance is the sport. Not changing minds. Not proselytizing.

Troll admits to trolling

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question:

It's not an atheist thing or a Christian thing. It's a people thing. Some people simply want to share what they believe to be the truth with others so they too can enjoy the wonderful life one is living within their belief system.

Others, on the other hand, are more private about their religious or nonreligious beliefs.

Seems like you have simply run into some atheists who would like to share with you. Not unusual. One runs into Christians with the same idea all the time.

To some extent.

But some religions actively encourage their believers to proselytize.

Is it a more personal thing with atheists who insult believers, even believers who aren’t proselytizing? What motivates an atheist to insult believers who say, just having a conversation about what they’d do if they were God? It definitely seems aimed at changing minds, at moving people away from religion.

Many people like to be snarky on the internets. That's not proselytizing.

But it is trying to change minds. And don’t whine when your offensive snark gets deleted.

Not necessarily. Maybe if you aren't very sure of yourself?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To answer the original question:

It's not an atheist thing or a Christian thing. It's a people thing. Some people simply want to share what they believe to be the truth with others so they too can enjoy the wonderful life one is living within their belief system.

Others, on the other hand, are more private about their religious or nonreligious beliefs.

Seems like you have simply run into some atheists who would like to share with you. Not unusual. One runs into Christians with the same idea all the time.

To some extent.

But some religions actively encourage their believers to proselytize.

Is it a more personal thing with atheists who insult believers, even believers who aren’t proselytizing? What motivates an atheist to insult believers who say, just having a conversation about what they’d do if they were God? It definitely seems aimed at changing minds, at moving people away from religion.

Many people like to be snarky on the internets. That's not proselytizing.

It’s not mature, mentally well-adjusted, either. Are you the President? Do better.

Meh. Just trying to explain “motivations”. Calling out someone’s ignorance is the sport. Not changing minds. Not proselytizing.

Troll admits to trolling

My work here is done. Trolling with a soupçon of calling out what I think is ignorance in the hopes of converting (no other word for it) someone who isn’t sure of themselves.

19:14: this is the behavior we’re all complaining about. This guy is on here 24/7.