Is buying your teen daughter one of these a parenting status symbol?

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Anonymous wrote:I find the responses from non Jeep owners quite funny! We have actually owned a few. Currently a 2015 Wrangler Sport Unlimited. While we have only put 75,000 on it so far the only repair it’s had was the radio being replaced. I think this was due to the Top and doors being off during a hail/ thunderstorm. I can’t really blame that on Jeep! Jeep also has the best extended warranty out there at the moment. LIFETIME! Works great for us we keep most of our cars till the insurance company totals them. These are not the Jeeps of the eighties they have comfortable front seats great heat and air conditioning and ride much nicer than my 79 CJ5. My neighbor has a 2000 Wrangler with 480,000 on the original motor and transmission, he just put his second clutch in. I guess that considering he spent 23 years in Special Forces he keeps up on maintenance pretty well.
Also the Wrangler has been listed as one of the ten cheapest cars to insure for quite a few years now. We get close to 20 mpg when it was on stock tires. Now that I put 34 inch tires on it’s down to 18.5 on my wife’s 85 mile round trip to Reston.
Oh and one of my daughters friends would much rather ride in our Jeep with the top off than ride in her parents 130,000 Range Rover????

Judging from your writing skills, you are a moron, which only bolsters my general opinion of Jeep owners.[/quot

You come across as someone who is very boring. Who drives a boring car. And has an equally boring job. Not to mention a very boring sex life.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a teen or anyone else want to drive a boring Toyota? Or Honda? Why not buy a car that is fun at any speed! Jeep!

I don't know why. Mine will drive our Mustang or what ever our next car is, probably the new Jeep. Part of driving is about parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:My wife just gave the 16 years old son her 2016
Lexus IS350. She now drives the Toyota Prius

Why not buy him his own car instead?

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Anonymous wrote:Most uncomfortable car ever.

After renting one on a vacation recently, I have to agree.

Plus, all the lightweight and removable parts felt extremely unsafe to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it is. If you want your message to be "I suck as a parent."

My DD is getting a car at 16 and it is about 2 years old, low mileage and a Honda and her comment was "If I get a car at 16, I am going to be excited about whatever car it is!" She is getting a car because I am tired of being the chauffeur and yet I want her to continue being involved in so many awesome activities.

But you're GIVING her a car?? She's not just borrowing the family car sometimes??

Yup. She’s mature. Has awesome grades and has activities that take her and her sibling around the area a lot. How can she borrow the family car to get to school at 6:45 am? How can she borrow the family car to get home at 5 pm from activities? And to her various jobs and such? I got a car at 16 and it was a great experience for me. And now I will do the same for my daughter but I won’t get her a 40k Car or some stupid perceived status symbol.

A Honda Civic can also cost 40K. A teen having their own car regardless of what it is, is about status. Drive your own kids. Sibling should not be parenting her siblings You should. She gets to school the same way she got there before age 16. 16 year olds don't need cars. Their parents want them to have cars as it makes your life easier. Yes, she can borrow a family car - you have three cars or share. I don't get buying a car at 16 given they are going to college (one would hope since you can afford a car, you will also pay for college).

NP. No, it can also be about convenience and not just status. Some busy teens need to get themselves to school and their many activities on their own. Call it their car or an extra family car, it's all just semantics. Hondas are solid choices. Very reliable and fuel efficient. If 40K were no big deal I'd much rather buy a Honda than a ridiculous Jeep.

I agree that getting a 3rd car when you add a teen driver can be about convenience. I think my parents handled it well -- although it annoyed me as a teen. Dad got a new car when my sister started driving. She was allowed to drive his old car which included driving me to school along with her. This was not "her" car. It was my parents car that she was allowed to use. When I started driving a year later I also got to use that car. It did not go to college with my sister because it was not her car and still needed at home for me to use. They did eventually buy her a used car when her college required her to have a car (she was in a nursing program and a car was necessary for public health home visits). About mid-way through college I was allowed to take the 3rd car (which was a different car by this point) to school to make it easier to balance my work and extracurricular activities. I was still not allowed to call it 'my' car. When I graduated they signed the car over to me and at that point it was "mine".

This is kinda how my parents did it but we drove the newer car for the safety features. My sister got a new cheap car for graduate school and I got a new cheap car for my senior year as I needed it for an internship. I always owned my car but they paid the insurance while I was away for college and graduate school. We'll keep three cars but we do now.

I'd rather have a Jeep over a Civic as they do better in the snow and bad weather.

Actually, 4WD doesn't really do anything for safety in snow or bad weather; it only helps you start. Every car has "four wheel braking" and "two wheel steering." If you want an actual safety feature for snow and bad weather, make sure you're using winter tires on every vehicle.

http://www.thecarcrashdetective.com/2015/03/5-reasons-to-buy-winter-tires-for-your-car-suv-or-minivan.html/

The 4WD does help. We have it on one of our three cars. We have snow tires for one car. It makes a huge difference when you are driving.

Depends on your tires, I guess. We have 4WD on one vehicle with snow tires and 2WD on the other, also with snow tires. They both drive equally well in snow (or equally poorly when there's ice).

Besides that, there's this: http://www.thecarcrashdetective.com/2017/12/4wd-safer-2wd-death.html/ There isn't a statistical safety difference between 4WD and 2WD; the tires make the difference.

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I dunno but I just saw a brand new BMW X1 with "student driver" sticker on the back and rolled my eyes so hard they practically fell out my head.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it is. If you want your message to be "I suck as a parent."

My DD is getting a car at 16 and it is about 2 years old, low mileage and a Honda and her comment was "If I get a car at 16, I am going to be excited about whatever car it is!" She is getting a car because I am tired of being the chauffeur and yet I want her to continue being involved in so many awesome activities.

But you're GIVING her a car?? She's not just borrowing the family car sometimes??

Yup. She’s mature. Has awesome grades and has activities that take her and her sibling around the area a lot. How can she borrow the family car to get to school at 6:45 am? How can she borrow the family car to get home at 5 pm from activities? And to her various jobs and such? I got a car at 16 and it was a great experience for me. And now I will do the same for my daughter but I won’t get her a 40k Car or some stupid perceived status symbol.

A Honda Civic can also cost 40K. A teen having their own car regardless of what it is, is about status. Drive your own kids. Sibling should not be parenting her siblings You should. She gets to school the same way she got there before age 16. 16 year olds don't need cars. Their parents want them to have cars as it makes your life easier. Yes, she can borrow a family car - you have three cars or share. I don't get buying a car at 16 given they are going to college (one would hope since you can afford a car, you will also pay for college).

NP. No, it can also be about convenience and not just status. Some busy teens need to get themselves to school and their many activities on their own. Call it their car or an extra family car, it's all just semantics. Hondas are solid choices. Very reliable and fuel efficient. If 40K were no big deal I'd much rather buy a Honda than a ridiculous Jeep.

I agree that getting a 3rd car when you add a teen driver can be about convenience. I think my parents handled it well -- although it annoyed me as a teen. Dad got a new car when my sister started driving. She was allowed to drive his old car which included driving me to school along with her. This was not "her" car. It was my parents car that she was allowed to use. When I started driving a year later I also got to use that car. It did not go to college with my sister because it was not her car and still needed at home for me to use. They did eventually buy her a used car when her college required her to have a car (she was in a nursing program and a car was necessary for public health home visits). About mid-way through college I was allowed to take the 3rd car (which was a different car by this point) to school to make it easier to balance my work and extracurricular activities. I was still not allowed to call it 'my' car. When I graduated they signed the car over to me and at that point it was "mine".

This is kinda how my parents did it but we drove the newer car for the safety features. My sister got a new cheap car for graduate school and I got a new cheap car for my senior year as I needed it for an internship. I always owned my car but they paid the insurance while I was away for college and graduate school. We'll keep three cars but we do now.

I'd rather have a Jeep over a Civic as they do better in the snow and bad weather.

Actually, 4WD doesn't really do anything for safety in snow or bad weather; it only helps you start. Every car has "four wheel braking" and "two wheel steering." If you want an actual safety feature for snow and bad weather, make sure you're using winter tires on every vehicle.

http://www.thecarcrashdetective.com/2015/03/5-reasons-to-buy-winter-tires-for-your-car-suv-or-minivan.html/

The 4WD does help. We have it on one of our three cars. We have snow tires for one car. It makes a huge difference when you are driving.

Depends on your tires, I guess. We have 4WD on one vehicle with snow tires and 2WD on the other, also with snow tires. They both drive equally well in snow (or equally poorly when there's ice).

Besides that, there's this: http://www.thecarcrashdetective.com/2017/12/4wd-safer-2wd-death.html/ There isn't a statistical safety difference between 4WD and 2WD; the tires make the difference.

You realize that guy is just a blogger trying to make money and no real background or education behind it. He reads and article and reposts it.

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When we lived in the UAE we knew many people who eagerly bought Wranglers for desert camping trips and dune bashings.

They are among the most uncomfortable cars I have ever ridden in. And just about every Wrangler owner we knew eventually fell out of love with the car. I gather they can be fun and easy to accessorize for off roading activities but for regular driving they are very uncomfortable.

I wouldn't buy 4x4 for kids. They flip over too easily. A sensible Honda Civic or an inherited Volvo is the way to go. Then again we're not buying our kids cars even though we can easily afford to do so.

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My daughter and her friends all want one. One friend actually got one. I think it’s the idea of the Jeep, with the top off, sun out, and music on that they see. I see a gas guzzling, poor handling, unsafe death trap. Not happening.

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just so everyone knows you can get a used 2014 wrangler with less than 25k miles for about $20000. it’s really not that outrageous