Yoga is Hindu. Period.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBMc9s8oDWE&app=desktop

Hilarious!

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Well, you better stop brushing your teeth then, because it my religion, it's how we celebrate our internal goddess.

In Judaism at least I think it is acceptable to do things that a have a general positive purpose, that idolators do, as long as there is no direct connection to idolatry. Thus - Greek pagans used wine for libation ceremonies - thus there is extensive Jewish law on the kosher status of wines, to ensure the wine you drink did not have a libation said over it (in the strictest form of observance, this means only drinking wine that was made by Orthodox Jews) However no one says we should abstain from wine on this account.

So we might want to be careful of toothbrushes from people in your religion (if there was any evidence that that practice actually existed) but would not mean we would have to stop brushing our teeth.

As far as I can tell most Orthodox opinion allows the physical practices of yoga, but calls on those do those to be wary of the spiritual practices. Though I note Chabad forbids yoga completely. Most Conservative and Reform opinion is more lenient.

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/23099/is-yoga-kosher


I know some Conservative shuls have presented yoga sessions in which the teacher incorporates specifically Jewish spiritual ideas that are compatible.

In this post: insulting the original philosophy of yoga by calling them "idolators", then tries to appropriate yoga for "specifically Jewish spiritual ideas". Sorry honey, you can't have it both ways. Yoga is happily idolatrous.

Signed,
A Hindu

Idolatry is a technical term in Jewish law. If you would prefer we can use the Hebrew, Avoda Zara.

And yes, appropriation happens. We, if anyone, know that. The largest religion in the world is based on appropriating texts, ideas, prayers and practices from Judaism. IIUC Hinduism involved mass appropriation of local religious traditions by the conquering aryans, which is one reason it is so diverse. People appropriate ideas from one tradition, and adapt them to another. The notion that traditions are pure seems to me to be quite ahistorical.

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Every Jewish person knows

I doubt that even half of American Jews know what Avoda means, much less what Avoda Zara means.

that the term Avoda Zara, while being a technical term, is a derogatory technical term.

Eh, to Chazal. I am not sure there is any term you could have used for any form of polytheism that would not have been derogatory to chazal. Personally I don't mind if my neighbors worship the stars, as long as they do not try to blow me up or stab me.

Just because you add the words Jewish Law to it don't make it less derogatory.

It explains why MY usage of the term was not derogatory.

You should also be more in tune with what your Jewish leaders at world religious council meetings have agreed to. It has been formally declared by your people in the higher ups that Hinduism is not Avoda Zara.

I think I specifically said that Jewish notions on this are diverse. Thanks for the info though, now I can drink wine made by Hindus Christianity is also not Avoda Zara, per Rabbi Dorff, and of course Islam has clearly not been Avoda Zara since Maimonides, at least. Nonetheless when engaging in Sufi practices, I think it is still halachically incumbent on observant Jews to have a kavanah that is not Muslim.



http://www.millenniumpeacesummit.org/Hindu-Jewish_Summit_Information.pdf

You also need to refresh on the outdated and no longer supported theory of the Aryans being some sort of invading group. That has long been debunked.

You can do yoga and call it "Torah Yoga"-http://www.torahyoga.com/page1-what-how-content.htm
or "Kosher Yoga"-http://kosheryoga.net

and try so very hard to convince yourself that you have completely cut yourself off from "idolatrous" roots, but the TRUTH is within either way. Good luck with that ring of fire you believe in.

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You also need to refresh on the outdated and no longer supported theory of the Aryans being some sort of invading group. That has long been debunked.

Oh please, we aren't going to start on that. It has only been debunked by Hindu nationalists. The accepted position among scholars of linguistics, etc is that IE speakers came from outside India.

You can do yoga and call it "Torah Yoga"-http://www.torahyoga.com/page1-what-how-content.htm
or "Kosher Yoga"-http://kosheryoga.net

I am okay just calling it yoga.

and try so very hard to convince yourself that you have completely cut yourself off from "idolatrous" roots, but the TRUTH is within either way. Good luck with that ring of fire you believe in.

You don't seem to get it - I don't care about the roots - Judaism has "roots" in Canaanite paganism. We all have roots elsewhere. It is what we do with the practices, and how we apply them, that matters.

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Yoga is glorified stretching.

The poster who said it was dangerous in the wrong hands because of the power of un;washing energy or whatever is delusional.

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^^ unleashing energy

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Aryans_arguments

[Anonymous]

Every Jewish person knows that the term Avoda Zara, while being a technical term, is a derogatory technical term. Just because you add the words Jewish Law to it don't make it less derogatory.

You should also be more in tune with what your Jewish leaders at world religious council meetings have agreed to. It has been formally declared by your people in the higher ups that Hinduism is not Avoda Zara.

http://www.millenniumpeacesummit.org

http://www.millenniumpeacesummit.org/Hindu-Jewish_Summit_Information.pdf

You also need to refresh on the outdated and no longer supported theory of the Aryans being some sort of invading group. That has long been debunked.

You can do yoga and call it "Torah Yoga"-http://www.torahyoga.com/page1-what-how-content.htm
or "Kosher Yoga"-http://kosheryoga.net

and try so very hard to convince yourself that you have completely cut yourself off from "idolatrous" roots, but the TRUTH is within either way. Good luck with that ring of fire you believe in.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Yoga is glorified stretching.

The poster who said it was dangerous in the wrong hands because of the power of un;washing energy or whatever is delusional.

No sorry, you're actually just ignorant about yoga is. Like...you are PAINFULLY fucking ignorant about yoga is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whoops, the video didn't embed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBMc9s8oDWE&app=desktop

Hilarious!

I know right? I was like, "FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS MY PAIN."

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This thread is seriously strange, considering that physical yoga originated in Egypt.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is seriously strange, considering that physical yoga originated in Egypt.

Yeah so weird seeing how there is evidence of yoga in the Harappan and Indus Valley Civilization which are a couple thousand years older than the Egyptian civilization.

There has been evidence of yoga in Eygpt, not that predates yoga in India, but it was certainly a part of the culture there as a spiritual/religious and medicinal practice (not simply physical, no one needed to exercise back then, lol). That's because there has always historically been a great deal of cultural exchanges between the two areas, inclusive of Yemen and Oman.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is seriously strange, considering that physical yoga originated in Egypt.

Yeah so weird seeing how there is evidence of yoga in the Harappan and Indus Valley Civilization which are a couple thousand years older than the Egyptian civilization.

There has been evidence of yoga in Eygpt, not that predates yoga in India, but it was certainly a part of the culture there as a spiritual/religious and medicinal practice (not simply physical, no one needed to exercise back then, lol). That's because there has always historically been a great deal of cultural exchanges between the two areas, inclusive of Yemen and Oman.

Denial is a powerful thing. Though not as powerful as the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yoga is glorified stretching.

The poster who said it was dangerous in the wrong hands because of the power of un;washing energy or whatever is delusional.

No sorry, you're actually just ignorant about yoga is. Like...you are PAINFULLY fucking ignorant about yoga is.

Oh God, I'm in so much pain!! It's coming form my ignorance of yoga. Will a few downward dogs help, ya think?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is seriously strange, considering that physical yoga originated in Egypt.

Yeah so weird seeing how there is evidence of yoga in the Harappan and Indus Valley Civilization which are a couple thousand years older than the Egyptian civilization.

There has been evidence of yoga in Eygpt, not that predates yoga in India, but it was certainly a part of the culture there as a spiritual/religious and medicinal practice (not simply physical, no one needed to exercise back then, lol). That's because there has always historically been a great deal of cultural exchanges between the two areas, inclusive of Yemen and Oman.

Denial is a powerful thing. Though not as powerful as the truth.

Hell yeah it is. That is evident from all the 101 excuses on this thread about how yoga is not Hindu so they can sleep better at night and give themselves a pat on the back after they perfect their 'physical stretching position'. TRUTH.