Beauvoir - what do you like? What don't you like?

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Anonymous wrote:It makes me sad to hear that several conservative families are beginning to express that they feel uncomfortable. When they try to express this, they are viewed as intolerant. If they want true diversity, all families need to feel welcome - including conservative and republican families.


I think to a large extent, this depends on the conservative family. Some Beauvoir families are uncomfortable with the racism and xenophobia expressed by Trump and Cruz. If you are a Trump or Crus supporter, you are likely to feel uncomfortable expressing that support at Beauvoir, which has a diverse student population that includes immigrants and minorities.


Please give us a specific example-- just one-- of the "racism and xenophobia" expressed by trump and/or Cruz. An exact quote


You make joke, right? Ha. Ha.


Actually, no. I'm still waiting!


Did you miss when he referred to Mexicans as lazy or what he has said about women? Let's not even talk about how he speaks of "the" Blacks. And then there is that stupid slogan "Make America great again." You know when only the White man was deserving of a place at the table and certainly only a White man entitled to sit at the head of the table.


Of course this is not a specific quote.. this is just your spin on what you've heard -- I know, your husband's brother's sister-in-law's friend's agrees that Trump is racist, therefore, you know that it's true.


Of course anything to justify you supporting a racist, sexist candidate. Must be the comfort of your being White in America and not having to face the foolishness of his rhetoric. But carry on. The good thing about Trump is America can no longer deny the racist sexist homophobic underbelly that is well and alive. And THANK GOD the majority at Beauvoir has minimal tolerance for those who are foolish enough to say out loud they support him. THANK GOD! And to be clear I have no issue with conservatives or Republicans, just fools who try to justify supporting Trump!


I think you are missing the point. It is not for you or anyone else to judge the politics of other parents and it sounds like you are only open minded to views that you agree with. Politics has never been discussed at Beauvoir and should stay that way. We never knew the political affiliation of other parents and it did not matter. Politics and beliefs should not be brought into the school. Furthermore, bringing social issues into the classroom is not what we signed up for years ago. Other schools offer that and we chose Beauvoir over them. We believe families that have careers in social justice should keep their careers outside of school and let the kids focus on being kids, learning to be good people and good classmates, and learn!


No you are missing the point. Who said any of these issues where being addressed in the classroom? It was said it's an issue that has come up amongst the parents. I stand by my position. I'm glad people who openly support a racist sexist homophob are made uncomfortable at Beauvoir. Period!


Pp here who is still waiting for the quote that supports your soapbox claim that Trump is a racist. And btw, I never said I support him and guess what-- I don't. I was merely trying to prove the point-- which had been done, repeatedly, by your lack of attention and inability to answer the question-- that people like you who speak so reflexively have zero basis for the outlandish pious claims you make.

One more chance pp: give us all a specific example of a racist statement Trump has made.


Here you go: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83

...and before you say none of it is a direct quote, most racist are smart enough to not actually say "I hate Black people," "Mexicans are degenerates," "Gays are an abomination," etc. Most racist hide on subtle bullshit and have ridiculous people like you talking about "tell me one thing he said." SMH. I hope you are NOT a Beauvoir parent. Would prefer to never run into someone so ignorant in person.
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It's time to get back to the topic of what you like/dislike about Beauvoir.
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Anonymous wrote:It's time to get back to the topic of what you like/dislike about Beauvoir.


OP here: agreed.
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NP: admitted for PreK. For current/past parents did you send your newly admitted DC to summer camp before they started? Did you find it useful? We have enrolled DC for te cub session and all four sessions but wonder if there is actually going to be any benefit?
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Anonymous wrote:You are comparing pk-12s. I'm talking more like St Patrick's, Sheridan. NPS. Elementary type schools where your tuition doesn't subsidize more expensive middle and upper school facilities. And compared to these K-8/6 schools, Beauvoir is A LOT more expensive.


Those schools are not on Beauvoir's level. Beauvoir would be an A school and those would be B level schools.


This attitude--not typical, fortunately--is what I don't like.
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Anonymous wrote:NP: admitted for PreK. For current/past parents did you send your newly admitted DC to summer camp before they started? Did you find it useful? We have enrolled DC for te cub session and all four sessions but wonder if there is actually going to be any benefit?


We did not enroll before Starting, and did not feel we lost out on anything. It can help shy kids get to know some other kids before school begins, or so I've heard. But not a lot of parents send their pre-pre-K kids to camp.
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Anonymous wrote:You are comparing pk-12s. I'm talking more like St Patrick's, Sheridan. NPS. Elementary type schools where your tuition doesn't subsidize more expensive middle and upper school facilities. And compared to these K-8/6 schools, Beauvoir is A LOT more expensive.


Those schools are not on Beauvoir's level. Beauvoir would be an A school and those would be B level schools.


This attitude--not typical, fortunately--is what I don't like.

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Anonymous wrote:You are comparing pk-12s. I'm talking more like St Patrick's, Sheridan. NPS. Elementary type schools where your tuition doesn't subsidize more expensive middle and upper school facilities. And compared to these K-8/6 schools, Beauvoir is A LOT more expensive.


Those schools are not on Beauvoir's level. Beauvoir would be an A school and those would be B level schools.


This attitude--not typical, fortunately--is what I don't like.

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So you disagree that Beauvoir is held in higher regard than the other mentioned schools? You may not like that some are willing to be honest about it, but it doesn't make it not true.
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Anonymous wrote:You are comparing pk-12s. I'm talking more like St Patrick's, Sheridan. NPS. Elementary type schools where your tuition doesn't subsidize more expensive middle and upper school facilities. And compared to these K-8/6 schools, Beauvoir is A LOT more expensive.


Those schools are not on Beauvoir's level. Beauvoir would be an A school and those would be B level schools.


This attitude--not typical, fortunately--is what I don't like.

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So you disagree that Beauvoir is held in higher regard than the other mentioned schools? You may not like that some are willing to be honest about it, but it doesn't make it not true.


NP. Definitely agree that Beauvoir is held in higher regard . . . by Beauvoir parents.
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Anonymous wrote:You are comparing pk-12s. I'm talking more like St Patrick's, Sheridan. NPS. Elementary type schools where your tuition doesn't subsidize more expensive middle and upper school facilities. And compared to these K-8/6 schools, Beauvoir is A LOT more expensive.


Those schools are not on Beauvoir's level. Beauvoir would be an A school and those would be B level schools.


This attitude--not typical, fortunately--is what I don't like.

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So you disagree that Beauvoir is held in higher regard than the other mentioned schools? You may not like that some are willing to be honest about it, but it doesn't make it not true.


NP. Definitely agree that Beauvoir is held in higher regard . . . by Beauvoir parents.


This is true. But it is also true that if you asked a random selection of DC parents to rank the schools (as opposed to parents of children at these schools), Beauvoir would be ranked higher than St. Patricks, Sheridan, or NPS.

Beauvoir has had a consistently high quality of education for a very long time. I understand NPS in recent years has gotten stronger. Have not heard the same about St. Patricks. Sheridan's reputation is that it's a warm and supportive school with mediocre academics.

A school that has been around since 1933, consistently providing strong elementary education is simply going to have a stronger reputation than one that has been variable or has only recently begun to have a strong program. It's like comparing Harvard to Middlebury. In recent years, Middlebury has become a much stronger college. However, it will take years (if ever) to compete with Harvard in reputation.




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I don't understand why the belief that Beauvoir is a top school over some others is being perceived as a bad attitude. As the PP said, it's not different than saying Sidwell, GDS and STA/NCS are the Big 3. Which implicitly means that they are held in higher regard then say Maret, Holton, Landon, etc. That doesn't mean the other schools are bad. It simply means when people start ranking schools that's where they fall. It would be naive to not think Beauvoir is considered top tier over the others when it is the feeder school into one (two) of the Big 3. Does that mean that children from the other school can't get into STA/NCS? No, but it does mean that STA/NCS hold the education the children are getting at Beauvoir in higher regards, and I doubt it's simply because they are part of the Cathedral system but because statistically a high percentage of Beauvoir students year after year prove they are prepared to thrive at a Big 3.

Simply put its the difference between going to a top 3 university and a top 20. Top 20 is excellent but they are not a top 3.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the belief that Beauvoir is a top school over some others is being perceived as a bad attitude. As the PP said, it's not different than saying Sidwell, GDS and STA/NCS are the Big 3. Which implicitly means that they are held in higher regard then say Maret, Holton, Landon, etc. That doesn't mean the other schools are bad. It simply means when people start ranking schools that's where they fall. It would be naive to not think Beauvoir is considered top tier over the others when it is the feeder school into one (two) of the Big 3. Does that mean that children from the other school can't get into STA/NCS? No, but it does mean that STA/NCS hold the education the children are getting at Beauvoir in higher regards, and I doubt it's simply because they are part of the Cathedral system but because statistically a high percentage of Beauvoir students year after year prove they are prepared to thrive at a Big 3.

Simply put its the difference between going to a top 3 university and a top 20. Top 20 is excellent but they are not a top 3.


As a Beauvoir parent this is something I would not say or write publicly.
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Yep, as an adult, most people (and employers) do not care AT ALL where you went to pre-k. And no one, outside of a very small circle in the DC vacinity, even know Beauvoir exists. So this game of establishing exactly "how esteemed" a lower elementary school is...well, it's kind of nauseating. The idea that your experience in the first grade is going to set the tone for your entire life of learning, is a little reaching.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the belief that Beauvoir is a top school over some others is being perceived as a bad attitude. As the PP said, it's not different than saying Sidwell, GDS and STA/NCS are the Big 3. Which implicitly means that they are held in higher regard then say Maret, Holton, Landon, etc. That doesn't mean the other schools are bad. It simply means when people start ranking schools that's where they fall. It would be naive to not think Beauvoir is considered top tier over the others when it is the feeder school into one (two) of the Big 3. Does that mean that children from the other school can't get into STA/NCS? No, but it does mean that STA/NCS hold the education the children are getting at Beauvoir in higher regards, and I doubt it's simply because they are part of the Cathedral system but because statistically a high percentage of Beauvoir students year after year prove they are prepared to thrive at a Big 3.

Simply put its the difference between going to a top 3 university and a top 20. Top 20 is excellent but they are not a top 3.


As a Beauvoir parent this is something I would not say or write publicly.


I'm not a Beauvoir parent. However, I know a fair amount of current and past Beauvoir parents and they most certainly say it in their circles. So while YOU may not say it, it is definitely being said. If that embarrasses you, the question is why? If it's true, who cares?
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Anonymous wrote:Yep, as an adult, most people (and employers) do not care AT ALL where you went to pre-k. And no one, outside of a very small circle in the DC vacinity, even know Beauvoir exists. So this game of establishing exactly "how esteemed" a lower elementary school is...well, it's kind of nauseating. The idea that your experience in the first grade is going to set the tone for your entire life of learning, is a little reaching.


This. When most people ask me where does my DC go to school and I say Beauvoir more often than not the response is "Where is that?" I even had one person (which I thought was pretty funny) tell me she was going to apply through the lottery but didn't. I presume she thought it was a DC Charter school. The point being, most people have ZERO idea about Beauvoir. Is it well regarded by those who do know it but I can honestly say I have never heard anyone compare it (good or bad) to any of the schools I have read on this thread.
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