Earlier start date proposed for MCPS

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No, we're closed on those days because large segments of the population celebrate them. Jewish schools have more time off around the major Jewish holidays than MCPS BTW.

Large segments of the population? Not where I live in Montgomery County. Where I live, a large segment of the population celebrates Muslim holidays.

Where do you live? Because 12K Muslims out of 971K county population is a very small percentage.

I live in Clarksburg.

Also, your numbers are out of date.

They're from 2010 but most recent available. Supply something more current from a reliable source if you want.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/24/24031.html

[Anonymous]

Big thanks to the OP for posting, I would have had no idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the District's recommendation against establishing the new holiday, staff made clear that additional absenteeism for EID was de mini is, so BOE is not applying it's usual criteria and will probably get sued by another religion with an unrecognized holiday as a result. Maybe the B'hai.

But whatever the views on the wisdom of celebrating this holiday, or the method (professional day) this calendar nonsense is an unanticipated consequence that should just be avoided. Status quo, please!

There is no way to know from attendance data how many people would like to not have school on Eid al-Adha but go to school because there is school. In addition, the BoE has yet to publish any data on absenteeism for Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur. Not to mention that we have no idea what the absenteeism would be for Christmas, because school is always closed for Christmas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It still says Christmas and Easter. Just doesn't say Yom Kippur or Rosh Hashanah.

That's just kind of offensive.

This change occurred during the debacle last year about religious holidays.

Yeah. The Christian/normal/benign holidays can still be acknowledged as such, but no threatening/ethnic holidays associated with Jews or Muslims can be acknowledged.

The calendar does not reference Christmas or Easter. Please do not resort to false statements to try to bolster support for your issue.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/0992.15_2015-16_SchoolCalendar(1).pdf

[Anonymous]

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No, we're closed on those days because large segments of the population celebrate them. Jewish schools have more time off around the major Jewish holidays than MCPS BTW.

Large segments of the population? Not where I live in Montgomery County. Where I live, a large segment of the population celebrates Muslim holidays.

Where do you live? Because 12K Muslims out of 971K county population is a very small percentage.

I live in Clarksburg.

Also, your numbers are out of date.

They're from 2010 but most recent available. Supply something more current from a reliable source if you want.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/24/24031.html

I don't see any figures on religious affiliation at this link.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It still says Christmas and Easter. Just doesn't say Yom Kippur or Rosh Hashanah.

That's just kind of offensive.

This change occurred during the debacle last year about religious holidays.

Yeah. The Christian/normal/benign holidays can still be acknowledged as such, but no threatening/ethnic holidays associated with Jews or Muslims can be acknowledged.

The calendar does not reference Christmas or Easter. Please do not resort to false statements to try to bolster support for your issue.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/0992.15_2015-16_SchoolCalendar(1).pdf

No, but here: http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/calendars/future/ the calendar marks secular days off and Christmas (and Christmas Eve) as holidays, but there is no explanation or mark of "holiday" for Yom Kippur or Rosh Hoshanah.

[Anonymous]

Christmas and Easter (Good Friday, Easter Monday) are state-mandated. The absentee rate is irrelevant for those days. MCPS has no choice but to close.

I don't think there is any requirement that the district continually reverify their original determination that absenteeism for Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur was significant enough to close. The county has one of the largest Jewish populations in the country, I think 17% of the county is Jewish. The usual absentee rate hovers around 5%. It would not take 100% participation to reach double the usual absentee rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It still says Christmas and Easter. Just doesn't say Yom Kippur or Rosh Hashanah.

That's just kind of offensive.

This change occurred during the debacle last year about religious holidays.

Yeah. The Christian/normal/benign holidays can still be acknowledged as such, but no threatening/ethnic holidays associated with Jews or Muslims can be acknowledged.

The calendar does not reference Christmas or Easter. Please do not resort to false statements to try to bolster support for your issue.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/0992.15_2015-16_SchoolCalendar(1).pdf

Exactly.

No, but here: http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/calendars/future/ the calendar marks secular days off and Christmas (and Christmas Eve) as holidays, but there is no explanation or mark of "holiday" for Yom Kippur or Rosh Hoshanah.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, we're closed on those days because large segments of the population celebrate them. Jewish schools have more time off around the major Jewish holidays than MCPS BTW.

Large segments of the population? Not where I live in Montgomery County. Where I live, a large segment of the population celebrates Muslim holidays.

Where do you live? Because 12K Muslims out of 971K county population is a very small percentage.

I live in Clarksburg.

Also, your numbers are out of date.

They're from 2010 but most recent available. Supply something more current from a reliable source if you want.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/24/24031.html

I don't see any figures on religious affiliation at this link.

Correct. But it does show the population of the county, which is well over 971,000.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It still says Christmas and Easter. Just doesn't say Yom Kippur or Rosh Hashanah.

That's just kind of offensive.

This change occurred during the debacle last year about religious holidays.

Yeah. The Christian/normal/benign holidays can still be acknowledged as such, but no threatening/ethnic holidays associated with Jews or Muslims can be acknowledged.

The calendar does not reference Christmas or Easter. Please do not resort to false statements to try to bolster support for your issue.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/0992.15_2015-16_SchoolCalendar(1).pdf

No, but here: http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/calendars/future/ the calendar marks secular days off and Christmas (and Christmas Eve) as holidays, but there is no explanation or mark of "holiday" for Yom Kippur or Rosh Hoshanah.

Christmas is a state and federal holiday.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the District's recommendation against establishing the new holiday, staff made clear that additional absenteeism for EID was de mini is, so BOE is not applying it's usual criteria and will probably get sued by another religion with an unrecognized holiday as a result. Maybe the B'hai.

But whatever the views on the wisdom of celebrating this holiday, or the method (professional day) this calendar nonsense is an unanticipated consequence that should just be avoided. Status quo, please!

There is no way to know from attendance data how many people would like to not have school on Eid al-Adha but go to school because there is school. In addition, the BoE has yet to publish any data on absenteeism for Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur. Not to mention that we have no idea what the absenteeism would be for Christmas, because school is always closed for Christmas.

There was a big push by Equality for Eid to have all Muslims skip school on Eid last year. County attendance figures were pretty much unchanged versus other weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Christmas and Easter (Good Friday, Easter Monday) are state-mandated. The absentee rate is irrelevant for those days. MCPS has no choice but to close.

I don't think there is any requirement that the district continually reverify their original determination that absenteeism for Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur was significant enough to close. The county has one of the largest Jewish populations in the country, I think 17% of the county is Jewish. The usual absentee rate hovers around 5%. It would not take 100% participation to reach double the usual absentee rate.

Nobody is asking MCPS to continually reverify. At this point, they can't even verify. The closings are based on some absentee numbers that they gathered at some point several decades ago that they no longer have.

In fact, there's nothing MCPS even could verify. There is no way to know how many people would not be at school if there were school on Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur (or Christmas), because there isn't school on Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur (or Christmas). Just as there is no way to know how many people would like to observe Eid al-Adha if there were no school but are at school because there is school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, we're closed on those days because large segments of the population celebrate them. Jewish schools have more time off around the major Jewish holidays than MCPS BTW.

Large segments of the population? Not where I live in Montgomery County. Where I live, a large segment of the population celebrates Muslim holidays.

Where do you live? Because 12K Muslims out of 971K county population is a very small percentage.

I live in Clarksburg.

Also, your numbers are out of date.

They're from 2010 but most recent available. Supply something more current from a reliable source if you want.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/24/24031.html

I don't see any figures on religious affiliation at this link.

Correct. But it does show the population of the county, which is well over 971,000.

It says 971,777. Are you mentally handicapped? Serious question.

[Anonymous]

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There was a big push by Equality for Eid to have all Muslims skip school on Eid last year. County attendance figures were pretty much unchanged versus other weeks.

That answers the question, "How many Muslims skipped school on Eid last year in response to the push from Equality for Eid?" But I don't think that's the question we're asking.

[Anonymous]

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http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/24/24031.html

I don't see any figures on religious affiliation at this link.

Correct. But it does show the population of the county, which is well over 971,000.

It says 971,777. Are you mentally handicapped? Serious question.

Look at the top line.