Atheist parent

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Anonymous wrote:I really wouldn't care, so why would I ask? Regardless, my children play with all children of various faiths/non-faiths and backgrounds. My children have their own faith, and I make sure that they are respectful of other faiths, because I believe that we all have our own paths to follow. I would think no more or less of you for being atheist.



This is not a healthy mindset. My kids are taught to be rational and critical of other's claims about the nature of the world. There is no reason to respect someone who believes in an imaginary God, none. Tolerate, yes, but not respect. People can be free to follow their own path, and we are free to point out and ridicule the irrational nature of their path.


Wow. I bet you're a lot of fun to hang out with, and your kids too. I actually feel sorry for your children.


Believe what you want if it helps you feel better about having your belief challenged openly. Ask yourself why you feel it is necessary to resort to personal attacks. For shame!




Oh, please.

I have no problem with my "beliefs" (aka the Truth) being challenged openly, because I know that I am correct. God's word is Truth. Jesus Christ is Truth. I don't have to defend Him; He has done that for us.

And you call this a "personal attack?" Why? Because I (and at least one other PP) noted how downright rude you appear to be, because you teach your children to "point out and ridicule" other people? Yes, I do feel sorry for your kids, but I pray that in God's divine way, He will reach them, despite the falsehoods you are trying to brainwash them with.


You have reading comprehension problems. As written "...and critical of other's claims about the nature of the world." very obviously draws on the definition of "critical" that is "involving the objective analysis and evaluation of an issue in order to form a judgement." as opposed to "expressing adverse or disapproving comments or judgments."

I also don't teach my kids to point out and ridicule other people. That's just more reading comprehension problems on your part.

Not really that surprising coming from someone who thinks an ancient book is "the Truth".
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Anonymous wrote:I really wouldn't care, so why would I ask? Regardless, my children play with all children of various faiths/non-faiths and backgrounds. My children have their own faith, and I make sure that they are respectful of other faiths, because I believe that we all have our own paths to follow. I would think no more or less of you for being atheist.



This is not a healthy mindset. My kids are taught to be rational and critical of other's claims about the nature of the world. There is no reason to respect someone who believes in an imaginary God, none. Tolerate, yes, but not respect. People can be free to follow their own path, and we are free to point out and ridicule the irrational nature of their path.


Wow. I bet you're a lot of fun to hang out with, and your kids too. I actually feel sorry for your children.


Believe what you want if it helps you feel better about having your belief challenged openly. Ask yourself why you feel it is necessary to resort to personal attacks. For shame!


Oh, please.

I have no problem with my "beliefs" (aka the Truth) being challenged openly, because I know that I am correct. God's word is Truth. Jesus Christ is Truth. I don't have to defend Him; He has done that for us.

And you call this a "personal attack?" Why? Because I (and at least one other PP) noted how downright rude you appear to be, because you teach your children to "point out and ridicule" other people? Yes, I do feel sorry for your kids, but I pray that in God's divine way, He will reach them, despite the falsehoods you are trying to brainwash them with.


God has his hands full with terrorism right now and is not doing a very good job at it. I doubt he'll take on a mother teaching her children that he's not real.


God is not responsible for creating terrorism. That is the work of pure evil. He commanded us to fight against evil. What are you doing in that regard?


God not responsible for anything. He just loves us and punishes us if we don't believe in him. Some people think he answers prayers, but there's not evidence of that. Some of the people who believe in him are so mean, it's hard to imagine that they are guided by a benevolent force, but who are we to question God?


God is responsible for love, good and truth. He is the very definition of those attributes. You punish yourself if you choose another way because you are leading yourself into life of lies and untruth. Yes, mean people may say that they "believe" in Him in a shallow sense but that is not the same as choosing the path of Christ to follow Him


God is responsible for the good things only. Not any of the bad things. That's what makes him god.


You're missing the point. "Responsible for" is the wrong phrase. God is the definition of Good.


But he's not defined that way in the Bible. It's something Christians just know. Not everything that's important about Christianity is in the Bible. It was written so long ago, that it requires a lot of interpretation. God is good only and when things go terribly wrong or are prayers are not answered. It's god being good in a way we can't understand.


Ah, but He is defined that way! Look at this verse from Matthew chapter 19: "Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, 'Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?' 'Why do you ask me about what is good?' Jesus replied. 'There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments." Or this from the Old Testament, Psalm 119: "You are good, and what you do is good; teach me your decrees"

There are other verses too, and it is something that everyone, I think, intrinsically knows. Even those who claim to deny there is a God. What else could be the source of Good?


I find this line of reasoning humorous.

I'll grant you for the sake of argument that God is the definition of good. That is all of the good in this world is from God and he didn't create evil. It's necessary that he didn't create evil because if he did, then he would be the definition of evil too. Since he isn't the definition of evil, he must not have created it. If that's the case, then who created evil? Where did evil come from? Since Good could only have came from God, and since something cannot come from nothing, as creationists often like to claim, then evil must have had a creator too. If this creator wasn't God, that must mean there is someone else with the same creative powers as God. Therefore God isn't the only god and there must by definition be multiple gods out there, including the good god, the evil god, and who knows how many other gods.

So by denying that God is responsible for the evils in this world, you are defying His command that you believe in only one God. Gasp! You are going to hell.
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Anonymous wrote:I really wouldn't care, so why would I ask? Regardless, my children play with all children of various faiths/non-faiths and backgrounds. My children have their own faith, and I make sure that they are respectful of other faiths, because I believe that we all have our own paths to follow. I would think no more or less of you for being atheist.



This is not a healthy mindset. My kids are taught to be rational and critical of other's claims about the nature of the world. There is no reason to respect someone who believes in an imaginary God, none. Tolerate, yes, but not respect. People can be free to follow their own path, and we are free to point out and ridicule the irrational nature of their path.


Wow. I bet you're a lot of fun to hang out with, and your kids too. I actually feel sorry for your children.


Believe what you want if it helps you feel better about having your belief challenged openly. Ask yourself why you feel it is necessary to resort to personal attacks. For shame!


Oh, please.

I have no problem with my "beliefs" (aka the Truth) being challenged openly, because I know that I am correct. God's word is Truth. Jesus Christ is Truth. I don't have to defend Him; He has done that for us.

And you call this a "personal attack?" Why? Because I (and at least one other PP) noted how downright rude you appear to be, because you teach your children to "point out and ridicule" other people? Yes, I do feel sorry for your kids, but I pray that in God's divine way, He will reach them, despite the falsehoods you are trying to brainwash them with.


God has his hands full with terrorism right now and is not doing a very good job at it. I doubt he'll take on a mother teaching her children that he's not real.


God is not responsible for creating terrorism. That is the work of pure evil. He commanded us to fight against evil. What are you doing in that regard?


God not responsible for anything. He just loves us and punishes us if we don't believe in him. Some people think he answers prayers, but there's not evidence of that. Some of the people who believe in him are so mean, it's hard to imagine that they are guided by a benevolent force, but who are we to question God?


God is responsible for love, good and truth. He is the very definition of those attributes. You punish yourself if you choose another way because you are leading yourself into life of lies and untruth. Yes, mean people may say that they "believe" in Him in a shallow sense but that is not the same as choosing the path of Christ to follow Him


God is responsible for the good things only. Not any of the bad things. That's what makes him god.


You're missing the point. "Responsible for" is the wrong phrase. God is the definition of Good.


But he's not defined that way in the Bible. It's something Christians just know. Not everything that's important about Christianity is in the Bible. It was written so long ago, that it requires a lot of interpretation. God is good only and when things go terribly wrong or are prayers are not answered. It's god being good in a way we can't understand.


Ah, but He is defined that way! Look at this verse from Matthew chapter 19: "Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, 'Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?' 'Why do you ask me about what is good?' Jesus replied. 'There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments." Or this from the Old Testament, Psalm 119: "You are good, and what you do is good; teach me your decrees"

There are other verses too, and it is something that everyone, I think, intrinsically knows. Even those who claim to deny there is a God. What else could be the source of Good?


I find this line of reasoning humorous.

I'll grant you for the sake of argument that God is the definition of good. That is all of the good in this world is from God and he didn't create evil. It's necessary that he didn't create evil because if he did, then he would be the definition of evil too. Since he isn't the definition of evil, he must not have created it. If that's the case, then who created evil? Where did evil come from? Since Good could only have came from God, and since something cannot come from nothing, as creationists often like to claim, then evil must have had a creator too. If this creator wasn't God, that must mean there is someone else with the same creative powers as God. Therefore God isn't the only god and there must by definition be multiple gods out there, including the good god, the evil god, and who knows how many other gods.

So by denying that God is responsible for the evils in this world, you are defying His command that you believe in only one God. Gasp! You are going to hell.


Evil came as a result of choice. God created man with choice - to love and follow him, or not to. When Man turned (and continually turns) from God (e.g. Good) he is capable of evil. That is the genesis for it, in both the macro -- all of humanity -- and the micro, individual sense. Therefore, evil == no God. (or, at least the capability for great evil.)
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Anonymous wrote:I really wouldn't care, so why would I ask? Regardless, my children play with all children of various faiths/non-faiths and backgrounds. My children have their own faith, and I make sure that they are respectful of other faiths, because I believe that we all have our own paths to follow. I would think no more or less of you for being atheist.



This is not a healthy mindset. My kids are taught to be rational and critical of other's claims about the nature of the world. There is no reason to respect someone who believes in an imaginary God, none. Tolerate, yes, but not respect. People can be free to follow their own path, and we are free to point out and ridicule the irrational nature of their path.


Wow. I bet you're a lot of fun to hang out with, and your kids too. I actually feel sorry for your children.


Believe what you want if it helps you feel better about having your belief challenged openly. Ask yourself why you feel it is necessary to resort to personal attacks. For shame!




Oh, please.

I have no problem with my "beliefs" (aka the Truth) being challenged openly, because I know that I am correct. God's word is Truth. Jesus Christ is Truth. I don't have to defend Him; He has done that for us.

And you call this a "personal attack?" Why? Because I (and at least one other PP) noted how downright rude you appear to be, because you teach your children to "point out and ridicule" other people? Yes, I do feel sorry for your kids, but I pray that in God's divine way, He will reach them, despite the falsehoods you are trying to brainwash them with.


You have reading comprehension problems. As written "...and critical of other's claims about the nature of the world." very obviously draws on the definition of "critical" that is "involving the objective analysis and evaluation of an issue in order to form a judgement." as opposed to "expressing adverse or disapproving comments or judgments."

I also don't teach my kids to point out and ridicule other people. That's just more reading comprehension problems on your part.

Not really that surprising coming from someone who thinks an ancient book is "the Truth".


OK, restate it all you want, but what you said is "we" (my oh-so-brilliant children and myself) are "free to POINT OUT (emphasis mine) and RIDICULE the irrational nature of their path. Sounds like "expressing adverse or disapproving comments/ judgments" to me.
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