BASIS under federal investigation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Seems to me that it can and is both a Rights issue Aand an unfunded mandate. The two are not mutually exclusive.

And what about the civil rights of kids who don't have a disability? They aren't covered by FAPE and don't get the same rights and protections as kids with disabilities. Whatever happened to equal rights and equal protection under the law? Doesn't that constitute a civil rights problem?

You are incorrect. FAPE applies to ALL children.

No. FAPE does NOT apply to all only those with disabilities.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Appropriate_Public_Education

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Seems to me that it can and is both a Rights issue Aand an unfunded mandate. The two are not mutually exclusive.

And what about the civil rights of kids who don't have a disability? They aren't covered by FAPE and don't get the same rights and protections as kids with disabilities. Whatever happened to equal rights and equal protection under the law? Doesn't that constitute a civil rights problem?

You are incorrect. FAPE applies to ALL children.

No. FAPE does NOT apply to all only those with disabilities.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Appropriate_Public_Education

Then DCPS is in serious violation because they are not meeting the needs of a huge number of kids.

[Anonymous]

"Serious violation" of what exactly?

You have no idea what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Per pupil funding for sped services depends on the number of hours the student requires. There is no flat rate for an "average" special ed student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Per pupil funding for sped services depends on the number of hours the student requires. There is no flat rate for an "average" special ed student.

Maybe that's how it works in DCPS, "number of hours" or open-ended, time and materials, costs-whatever-they-say-it-costs, or ship-them-out-to-a-$50,000-a-year-private-school - but here's how it works in charters - there are flat rate categories, and they don't even remotely approach how much gets spent per student in DCPS.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/Enrolling-Your-Child/FY2013-Uniform-Per-Student-Funding-Formula.aspx

There's some pretty major disparity in how the funds are allocated as compared to how much DCPS is given.

[Anonymous]

Different levels relate to how many hours of services. The breakdown of the hours is: 0-8 hours is level 1, 8-16 is level 2, 16-24 is level 3 and anything above is level 4. A student who receives 16.5 hours of services will get $14,416 extra on top of the per-pupil funding. And trust me, savvy special ed coordinators look very carefully at those hours and will bump a student up in services for the extra money.

[Anonymous]

Even the MAXIMUM special needs funding to charters is less than the AVERAGE per student funding in DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even the MAXIMUM special needs funding to charters is less than the AVERAGE per student funding in DCPS.

This isn't true.

Signed,

Special Ed coordinator in a charter school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. Seems to me that it can and is both a Rights issue Aand an unfunded mandate. The two are not mutually exclusive.

And what about the civil rights of kids who don't have a disability? They aren't covered by FAPE and don't get the same rights and protections as kids with disabilities. Whatever happened to equal rights and equal protection under the law? Doesn't that constitute a civil rights problem?

No it doesn't "constitute a civil rights problem" according to the Supreme Court. Your question has been hashed out by a whole series of constitutional law cases that whole courses have designed around.

So in other words, you are saying that over time, various incompetent Supreme Court justices have ignored and thrown away parts of the Constitution. It's pretty clear and unambiguous that the Fourteenth Amendment says "Equal protection under the law".

The XIV Amendment applies only to states, not the District of Columbia.

[Anonymous]

What?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even the MAXIMUM special needs funding to charters is less than the AVERAGE per student funding in DCPS.

This isn't true.

Signed,

Special Ed coordinator in a charter school.

Oh, really? Not true?

Average spending for a normal (no disabilities) student in DCPS is $35,000 a year. There are many kids in the DCPS systems who cost the system $50,000 a year and more.

How many kids without disabilities in your charter get $35,000 a year from the system to spend on them?

How many special needs kids in your charter get $35,000 a year from the system to spend on them?

How many students in your charter get $50,000 a year from the system to spend on them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even the MAXIMUM special needs funding to charters is less than the AVERAGE per student funding in DCPS.

This isn't true.

Signed,

Special Ed coordinator in a charter school.

Oh, really? Not true?

Average spending for a normal (no disabilities) student in DCPS is $35,000 a year. There are many kids in the DCPS systems who cost the system $50,000 a year and more.

How many kids without disabilities in your charter get $35,000 a year from the system to spend on them?

How many special needs kids in your charter get $35,000 a year from the system to spend on them?

How many students in your charter get $50,000 a year from the system to spend on them?

Please tell us which schools receive $35k per student? U r definitely exaggerating the numbers and thus making your argument unbelievable. The $35k that everyone keeps bantering around is the average in DCPS with the sped costs included.

Signed,

A charter parent

[Anonymous]

No exaggeration. Divide the DCPS budget by the number of students.

Meanwhile, divide any charter's budget by number of students and you get a far smaller number.

[Anonymous]

Here's a detailed study on per-student spending:

http://www2.census.gov/govs/school/10f33pub.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No exaggeration. Divide the DCPS budget by the number of students.

Meanwhile, divide any charter's budget by number of students and you get a far smaller number.

That budget includes sped transportation, sped education tuition and teacher pensions. Again, your number is a fallacy.