Recruited College Athletes from Big-3 Type Schools?

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Sidwell - Josh Hart - going to Villanova -basketball

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/highschools/all-met/recruit-watch/boys/Basketball/index.html

Not much for "Big-3".

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"Big 3" schools treat athletic recruitment and scholarships just as they treat music or science recruitment and scholarships. They honor the accomplishments of all their students. They do not flaunt their athletic scholarship winners.

In the same way, you are not interested in the athletes recruited by Mary Washington, Marymount, Catholic, Goucher, Hood, etc. but those schools do recruit athletes and their recruiters can be found at many of the Big 3 type schools. They recruit athletes who they know will be with them for four years, who are looking for an education and not quick big money.

My child takes swimming classes at St. Albans and I was pleasantly surprised to walk down a hallway lined with pictures of a number of their graduates who had participated in intercollegiate athletics at both the "big time" and "small school" levels since, I think, about 2002. Their boys do get recruited as I'm sure boys at similar schools are recruited.

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Does anyone have an opinion on the "ODP" soccer program? Is it worthwhile to look into? Our DC is in middle school. Thanks for any advice.

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Not particularly, the top boy players go into the developmental academies run by DC United, Potomac or if somewhat less serious about soccer or a little less skilled, top teams at clubs like Bethesda, and for the girls, the top players mostly join ECNL teams at clubs like McLean, Freestate and McLean. ODP used to be where the top players went to train together, but now the quality has dropped significantly, the program is expensive for generally mediocre coaching, too much driving, and college coaches don't show up to ODP events. The college recruiting is all at the top tournaments, unless a kid makes it to national team pools. Can go via ODP but most don't go that route to national teams any longer, are directly recruited from being seen at tournaments and are invited to national team camps.

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My DD goes to Maret and the senior class has 12 boys going on to play college sports next fall. A bunch are going to being playing at the Division 1 level.

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Anonymous wrote:Not particularly, the top boy players go into the developmental academies run by DC United, Potomac or if somewhat less serious about soccer or a little less skilled, top teams at clubs like Bethesda, and for the girls, the top players mostly join ECNL teams at clubs like McLean, Freestate and McLean. ODP used to be where the top players went to train together, but now the quality has dropped significantly, the program is expensive for generally mediocre coaching, too much driving, and college coaches don't show up to ODP events. The college recruiting is all at the top tournaments, unless a kid makes it to national team pools. Can go via ODP but most don't go that route to national teams any longer, are directly recruited from being seen at tournaments and are invited to national team camps.

I would also add that if you play on the academY teams for HS you cannot play soccer for your HS team.

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Anonymous wrote:Not particularly, the top boy players go into the developmental academies run by DC United, Potomac or if somewhat less serious about soccer or a little less skilled, top teams at clubs like Bethesda, and for the girls, the top players mostly join ECNL teams at clubs like McLean, Freestate and McLean. ODP used to be where the top players went to train together, but now the quality has dropped significantly, the program is expensive for generally mediocre coaching, too much driving, and college coaches don't show up to ODP events. The college recruiting is all at the top tournaments, unless a kid makes it to national team pools. Can go via ODP but most don't go that route to national teams any longer, are directly recruited from being seen at tournaments and are invited to national team camps.

I would also add that if you play on the academY teams for HS you cannot play soccer for your HS team.

Yes, when the Academy program was announced, they made a big deal out of saying it would not interfere with high school soccer. Never mind! So thousands of kids each year cannot play for their high school team on the off chance it will help develop 1-2 world class players a little more quickly. There do appear to be loopholes, though -- some Academy players still managed to suit up for their high school teams last year.

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Anonymous wrote:Not particularly, the top boy players go into the developmental academies run by DC United, Potomac or if somewhat less serious about soccer or a little less skilled, top teams at clubs like Bethesda, and for the girls, the top players mostly join ECNL teams at clubs like McLean, Freestate and McLean. ODP used to be where the top players went to train together, but now the quality has dropped significantly, the program is expensive for generally mediocre coaching, too much driving, and college coaches don't show up to ODP events. The college recruiting is all at the top tournaments, unless a kid makes it to national team pools. Can go via ODP but most don't go that route to national teams any longer, are directly recruited from being seen at tournaments and are invited to national team camps.

I would also add that if you play on the academY teams for HS you cannot play soccer for your HS team.

Yes, when the Academy program was announced, they made a big deal out of saying it would not interfere with high school soccer. Never mind! So thousands of kids each year cannot play for their high school team on the off chance it will help develop 1-2 world class players a little more quickly. There do appear to be loopholes, though -- some Academy players still managed to suit up for their high school teams last year.

It appears to be "scholarship" driven. In this area kids in private schools seemed to get waivers to play for their HS teams while the public school kids could not. Sort of unfair, at least here where a good number of the academy players go to private schools. I know the academy players at our public school are unhappy about not being able to play for the school team.

That being said, if you are interested in men's college soccer at very selective schools you need to be on an academy team or a national level club team (or better yet not be from the US, there are quite a few international recruits).

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Anonymous wrote:Not particularly, the top boy players go into the developmental academies run by DC United, Potomac or if somewhat less serious about soccer or a little less skilled, top teams at clubs like Bethesda, and for the girls, the top players mostly join ECNL teams at clubs like McLean, Freestate and McLean. ODP used to be where the top players went to train together, but now the quality has dropped significantly, the program is expensive for generally mediocre coaching, too much driving, and college coaches don't show up to ODP events. The college recruiting is all at the top tournaments, unless a kid makes it to national team pools. Can go via ODP but most don't go that route to national teams any longer, are directly recruited from being seen at tournaments and are invited to national team camps.

I would also add that if you play on the academY teams for HS you cannot play soccer for your HS team.

Yes, when the Academy program was announced, they made a big deal out of saying it would not interfere with high school soccer. Never mind! So thousands of kids each year cannot play for their high school team on the off chance it will help develop 1-2 world class players a little more quickly. There do appear to be loopholes, though -- some Academy players still managed to suit up for their high school teams last year.

It appears to be "scholarship" driven. In this area kids in private schools seemed to get waivers to play for their HS teams while the public school kids could not. Sort of unfair, at least here where a good number of the academy players go to private schools. I know the academy players at our public school are unhappy about not being able to play for the school team.

That being said, if you are interested in men's college soccer at very selective schools you need to be on an academy team or a national level club team (or better yet not be from the US, there are quite a few international recruits).

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at our private the boys that wanted to play academy were npt able to get waivers. It seemed that the only boys that got waivers were ones that had gotten into HS based on playing soccer. These waivers were granted on a very few cases.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD goes to Maret and the senior class has 12 boys going on to play college sports next fall. A bunch are going to being playing at the Division 1 level.

Dang! isn't the class only about 70 kids? No wonder its hard to get into if much of the class is made up of athletic recruits.

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Anonymous wrote:Not particularly, the top boy players go into the developmental academies run by DC United, Potomac or if somewhat less serious about soccer or a little less skilled, top teams at clubs like Bethesda, and for the girls, the top players mostly join ECNL teams at clubs like McLean, Freestate and McLean. ODP used to be where the top players went to train together, but now the quality has dropped significantly, the program is expensive for generally mediocre coaching, too much driving, and college coaches don't show up to ODP events. The college recruiting is all at the top tournaments, unless a kid makes it to national team pools. Can go via ODP but most don't go that route to national teams any longer, are directly recruited from being seen at tournaments and are invited to national team camps.

I would also add that if you play on the academY teams for HS you cannot play soccer for your HS team.

Yes, when the Academy program was announced, they made a big deal out of saying it would not interfere with high school soccer. Never mind! So thousands of kids each year cannot play for their high school team on the off chance it will help develop 1-2 world class players a little more quickly. There do appear to be loopholes, though -- some Academy players still managed to suit up for their high school teams last year.

It appears to be "scholarship" driven. In this area kids in private schools seemed to get waivers to play for their HS teams while the public school kids could not. Sort of unfair, at least here where a good number of the academy players go to private schools. I know the academy players at our public school are unhappy about not being able to play for the school team.

That being said, if you are interested in men's college soccer at very selective schools you need to be on an academy team or a national level club team (or better yet not be from the US, there are quite a few international recruits).

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at our private the boys that wanted to play academy were npt able to get waivers. It seemed that the only boys that got waivers were ones that had gotten into HS based on playing soccer. These waivers were granted on a very few cases.

So, are you saying that there were multiple boys from your private HS that made it into Academy soccer? And then, once they made it to Academy, only a few kids received the waivers? How would the Academy know who had gotten into the private HS just for soccer reasons?
What private school has such a talented pool of soccer players? Most of the talent I have seen have been public school kids (more of them, I guess).

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Anonymous wrote:My DD goes to Maret and the senior class has 12 boys going on to play college sports next fall. A bunch are going to being playing at the Division 1 level.

Very dubious.

Kindly list the schools and respective sports.

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I know at least one is going to Georgetown for baseball.

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Anonymous wrote:Not particularly, the top boy players go into the developmental academies run by DC United, Potomac or if somewhat less serious about soccer or a little less skilled, top teams at clubs like Bethesda, and for the girls, the top players mostly join ECNL teams at clubs like McLean, Freestate and McLean. ODP used to be where the top players went to train together, but now the quality has dropped significantly, the program is expensive for generally mediocre coaching, too much driving, and college coaches don't show up to ODP events. The college recruiting is all at the top tournaments, unless a kid makes it to national team pools. Can go via ODP but most don't go that route to national teams any longer, are directly recruited from being seen at tournaments and are invited to national team camps.

I would also add that if you play on the academY teams for HS you cannot play soccer for your HS team.

Yes, when the Academy program was announced, they made a big deal out of saying it would not interfere with high school soccer. Never mind! So thousands of kids each year cannot play for their high school team on the off chance it will help develop 1-2 world class players a little more quickly. There do appear to be loopholes, though -- some Academy players still managed to suit up for their high school teams last year.

It appears to be "scholarship" driven. In this area kids in private schools seemed to get waivers to play for their HS teams while the public school kids could not. Sort of unfair, at least here where a good number of the academy players go to private schools. I know the academy players at our public school are unhappy about not being able to play for the school team.

That being said, if you are interested in men's college soccer at very selective schools you need to be on an academy team or a national level club team (or better yet not be from the US, there are quite a few international recruits).

,
at our private the boys that wanted to play academy were npt able to get waivers. It seemed that the only boys that got waivers were ones that had gotten into HS based on playing soccer. These waivers were granted on a very few cases.

So, are you saying that there were multiple boys from your private HS that made it into Academy soccer? And then, once they made it to Academy, only a few kids received the waivers? How would the Academy know who had gotten into the private HS just for soccer reasons?
What private school has such a talented pool of soccer players? Most of the talent I have seen have been public school kids (more of them, I guess).

Sorry i wasn't more clear. There were a couple of boys from our HS that made academy teams. From what they were told about boys from their respective academy teams was that the few boys that got waivers had issues related to requirements to play soccer for their schools. It was very few.

however, if you haven't seen Gonzaga, you need to go see a game. They are a nationally ranked team Also 5 out of the top 10 soccer teams are privates.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/highschools/all-met/statistics/soccer-rankings.html


It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few years as the top talent will probably not be playing for any school public or private if they want to be recruited for D1 college soccer programs.