Social Class: How do you know what social class do you belong to?

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Anonymous wrote:None of this will matter once we finally eliminate income inequality completely.

It’s the number 1 problem facing the U.S. today.

Income inequality isn’t a problem. People who think they can skip education but need $300 sneakers are the problem. Beyond food security and basic shelter we don’t need equality. Leave this country if you don’t agree with its founding principles

Yes it is exactly the problem!!

Income inequality is unfair and it’s the result of unearned Asian and white privilege in the USA.

Lol it's very much earned. You want income redistribution to the people who explicitly haven't earned it. That won't end well. Work for what you want, don't wait for hand outs.

NP - Is it better if I say that I want the same safety net for everyone? I want everyone to get SS (not means-tested). I want everyone to get universal healthcare (if you want better get some privatey better stuff). I want everyone to have maternity leave and childcare. School lunch and breakfast.

Then people scream about the "rich" people getting free lunch. You really can't win. Provide it for everyone. Do not means test (you save a lot of money on admin that way) and it gains popular support because it's for everyone so people aren't resentful about hand outs.

This is absurd. The admin savings you would have on means testing is tiny. Whereas the amounts spent on "everyone" are vast. It's financially impossible. Just look at how SS and Medicare are bankrupting us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:None of this will matter once we finally eliminate income inequality completely.

It’s the number 1 problem facing the U.S. today.

No it isn’t. Inequality of opportunity is a bigger problem and even it isn’t the biggest problem we face.

Yeah, I should have an equal shot at being CEO of a major corporation as a Harvard graduate. Sadly, on one has offered me an opportunity.

What? If someone offered you a shot at being CEO of a major corporation they made a mistake. Because this isn't even a sentence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of this will matter once we finally eliminate income inequality completely.

It’s the number 1 problem facing the U.S. today.

Income inequality isn’t a problem. People who think they can skip education but need $300 sneakers are the problem. Beyond food security and basic shelter we don’t need equality. Leave this country if you don’t agree with its founding principles

Yes it is exactly the problem!!

Income inequality is unfair and it’s the result of unearned Asian and white privilege in the USA.

Lol it's very much earned. You want income redistribution to the people who explicitly haven't earned it. That won't end well. Work for what you want, don't wait for hand outs.

NP - Is it better if I say that I want the same safety net for everyone? I want everyone to get SS (not means-tested). I want everyone to get universal healthcare (if you want better get some privatey better stuff). I want everyone to have maternity leave and childcare. School lunch and breakfast.

Then people scream about the "rich" people getting free lunch. You really can't win. Provide it for everyone. Do not means test (you save a lot of money on admin that way) and it gains popular support because it's for everyone so people aren't resentful about hand outs.

"Rich" students go to private schools, not public schools with free lunches.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what class am I? I don't know.

Moved to US from overseas when I was 12 and all the social connections were left behind, family came with no money and what was in suitcase. But going back three generations immediate family were a law professor, a pediatric heart surgeon, a OB/GYN specializing in high-risk pregnancies, a pediatrician, a patent chemist. Then we moved from that overnight into poverty because post-USSR we had no money and even less when it was converted to USD. Now as an adult, my income is still very low, live in a tiny condo, dress poor because can't afford anything else. But I still very much value education, love books, spend a fortune on extracurriculars for the kids, There's very little in my checking and not much in savings. I buy artisanal foods and joke to husband that this is my chandelier now (to replace the one we left behind, because I've no place or money to hang the real thing here). What class is this?

Depends. How well are your children doing and are they going to be heart surgeons?

What does this have to do with it? You know that doctors (and all other professionals as well) are just extremely well-trained servants, right?

Yes, but climbing the servant class hierarchy might eventually lead to generational wealth if paid well enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of this will matter once we finally eliminate income inequality completely.

It’s the number 1 problem facing the U.S. today.

Income inequality isn’t a problem. People who think they can skip education but need $300 sneakers are the problem. Beyond food security and basic shelter we don’t need equality. Leave this country if you don’t agree with its founding principles

Yes it is exactly the problem!!

Income inequality is unfair and it’s the result of unearned Asian and white privilege in the USA.

Lol it's very much earned. You want income redistribution to the people who explicitly haven't earned it. That won't end well. Work for what you want, don't wait for hand outs.

NP - Is it better if I say that I want the same safety net for everyone? I want everyone to get SS (not means-tested). I want everyone to get universal healthcare (if you want better get some privatey better stuff). I want everyone to have maternity leave and childcare. School lunch and breakfast.

Then people scream about the "rich" people getting free lunch. You really can't win. Provide it for everyone. Do not means test (you save a lot of money on admin that way) and it gains popular support because it's for everyone so people aren't resentful about hand outs.

Great idea! How do you fund it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:None of this will matter once we finally eliminate income inequality completely.

It’s the number 1 problem facing the U.S. today.

No it isn’t. Inequality of opportunity is a bigger problem and even it isn’t the biggest problem we face.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of this will matter once we finally eliminate income inequality completely.

It’s the number 1 problem facing the U.S. today.

No it isn’t. Inequality of opportunity is a bigger problem and even it isn’t the biggest problem we face.

Yeah, I should have an equal shot at being CEO of a major corporation as a Harvard graduate. Sadly, on one has offered me an opportunity.

Well you should have an equal shot at being a Harvard graduate. Don’t try to skip steps

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of this will matter once we finally eliminate income inequality completely.

It’s the number 1 problem facing the U.S. today.

Income inequality isn’t a problem. People who think they can skip education but need $300 sneakers are the problem. Beyond food security and basic shelter we don’t need equality. Leave this country if you don’t agree with its founding principles

Yes it is exactly the problem!!

Income inequality is unfair and it’s the result of unearned Asian and white privilege in the USA.

White person who grew up in the projects, never got a privilege card. Worked to put myself through college and grad school. Don’t mind my tax dollars helping to give someone a hand up, don’t want my tax dollars used as a perpetual hand out.

Yes you did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know what class am I? I don't know.

Moved to US from overseas when I was 12 and all the social connections were left behind, family came with no money and what was in suitcase. But going back three generations immediate family were a law professor, a pediatric heart surgeon, a OB/GYN specializing in high-risk pregnancies, a pediatrician, a patent chemist. Then we moved from that overnight into poverty because post-USSR we had no money and even less when it was converted to USD. Now as an adult, my income is still very low, live in a tiny condo, dress poor because can't afford anything else. But I still very much value education, love books, spend a fortune on extracurriculars for the kids, There's very little in my checking and not much in savings. I buy artisanal foods and joke to husband that this is my chandelier now (to replace the one we left behind, because I've no place or money to hang the real thing here). What class is this?

Depends. How well are your children doing and are they going to be heart surgeons?

What does this have to do with it? You know that doctors (and all other professionals as well) are just extremely well-trained servants, right?

Yes, but climbing the servant class hierarchy might eventually lead to generational wealth if paid well enough.

Which does not equal "class." And there isn't going to be that much generational wealth, if any, built up with the practice of medicine (especially given how things are going now).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know what class am I? I don't know.

Moved to US from overseas when I was 12 and all the social connections were left behind, family came with no money and what was in suitcase. But going back three generations immediate family were a law professor, a pediatric heart surgeon, a OB/GYN specializing in high-risk pregnancies, a pediatrician, a patent chemist. Then we moved from that overnight into poverty because post-USSR we had no money and even less when it was converted to USD. Now as an adult, my income is still very low, live in a tiny condo, dress poor because can't afford anything else. But I still very much value education, love books, spend a fortune on extracurriculars for the kids, There's very little in my checking and not much in savings. I buy artisanal foods and joke to husband that this is my chandelier now (to replace the one we left behind, because I've no place or money to hang the real thing here). What class is this?

Depends. How well are your children doing and are they going to be heart surgeons?

What does this have to do with it? You know that doctors (and all other professionals as well) are just extremely well-trained servants, right?

Yes, but climbing the servant class hierarchy might eventually lead to generational wealth if paid well enough.

Which does not equal "class." And there isn't going to be that much generational wealth, if any, built up with the practice of medicine (especially given how things are going now).

Not immediately, but eventually. E.g. Rockefeller, a lowly dropout.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've literally never thought about this

Same. What difference does it make?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't know what class am I? I don't know.

Moved to US from overseas when I was 12 and all the social connections were left behind, family came with no money and what was in suitcase. But going back three generations immediate family were a law professor, a pediatric heart surgeon, a OB/GYN specializing in high-risk pregnancies, a pediatrician, a patent chemist. Then we moved from that overnight into poverty because post-USSR we had no money and even less when it was converted to USD. Now as an adult, my income is still very low, live in a tiny condo, dress poor because can't afford anything else. But I still very much value education, love books, spend a fortune on extracurriculars for the kids, There's very little in my checking and not much in savings. I buy artisanal foods and joke to husband that this is my chandelier now (to replace the one we left behind, because I've no place or money to hang the real thing here). What class is this?

Depends. How well are your children doing and are they going to be heart surgeons?

What does this have to do with it? You know that doctors (and all other professionals as well) are just extremely well-trained servants, right?

Yes, but climbing the servant class hierarchy might eventually lead to generational wealth if paid well enough.

Which does not equal "class." And there isn't going to be that much generational wealth, if any, built up with the practice of medicine (especially given how things are going now).

Not immediately, but eventually. E.g. Rockefeller, a lowly dropout.

And do you know the extent to which he and his family fit in? The Rockefellers were considered vulgur.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:None of this will matter once we finally eliminate income inequality completely.

It’s the number 1 problem facing the U.S. today.

No it isn’t. Inequality of opportunity is a bigger problem and even it isn’t the biggest problem we face.

Yeah, I should have an equal shot at being CEO of a major corporation as a Harvard graduate. Sadly, on one has offered me an opportunity.

You did have an equal shot. All Americans are born equals. Not our fault you blew it by not learning how to read and write.

[Anonymous]

Send your kid to a private school and you will be informed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Americans don't think about this.

lol. You must be new here. DCUM is OBSESSED with this.

No it isn’t. It’s just the caste system castaways who keep bringing it up. Americans aren’t worried about it