Charter school funding gap in FY27 budget

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

Right, this is a good illustration. The Coolidge comparison was simply meant to illustrate the same point in a nearby location.

Charter schools should not be defunded and indeed should be helped to better facilities when they outperform and outenroll.

The city spent $130 million building a pool at Roosevelt High School, a school with one of the lowest take-up rates among in-boundary children in the city. The entire annual budget of DCI is about $45 million.

That pool can also be used by all city residents including charter school students. What's your point?

This. What a weird thing to complain about. It's fine if some schools have pools and pools cost money, but they're for everyone. I go to the Dunbar pool all the time myself.

Seems like a pretty glaring example of the funding disparities between charters and DCPS. Some of these charter schools don't even have gyms.

It's more like DCPS is more connected with other DCPS and other city services than charters are, in a way that makes it difficult to do an apples to apples comparison of this stuff.

Please. Open your eyes and use your brain. Half the kids in this city go to DCPS. Half go to charters. If they go to DCPS, the facilities are lavish -- so lavish many schools win design awards. They go to schools that have Olympic sized pools, even if the school doesn't have enough kids interested in swimming to field a swim team. And the teachers are among the highest paid in the country. If the kids go to charters, the facilities are outdated, cramped and sometimes outright decrepit. And the teachers work for a fraction of what DCPS pays. And it's all because the city actively discriminates against children based on which school they happen to attend. It's indefensible.

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

Right, this is a good illustration. The Coolidge comparison was simply meant to illustrate the same point in a nearby location.

Charter schools should not be defunded and indeed should be helped to better facilities when they outperform and outenroll.

The city spent $130 million building a pool at Roosevelt High School, a school with one of the lowest take-up rates among in-boundary children in the city. The entire annual budget of DCI is about $45 million.

That pool can also be used by all city residents including charter school students. What's your point?

This. What a weird thing to complain about. It's fine if some schools have pools and pools cost money, but they're for everyone. I go to the Dunbar pool all the time myself.

Seems like a pretty glaring example of the funding disparities between charters and DCPS. Some of these charter schools don't even have gyms.

It's more like DCPS is more connected with other DCPS and other city services than charters are, in a way that makes it difficult to do an apples to apples comparison of this stuff.

Please. Open your eyes and use your brain. Half the kids in this city go to DCPS. Half go to charters. If they go to DCPS, the facilities are lavish -- so lavish many schools win design awards. They go to schools that have Olympic sized pools, even if the school doesn't have enough kids interested in swimming to field a swim team. And the teachers are among the highest paid in the country. If the kids go to charters, the facilities are outdated, cramped and sometimes outright decrepit. And the teachers work for a fraction of what DCPS pays. And it's all because the city actively discriminates against children based on which school they happen to attend. It's indefensible.

Tour Yu Ying and get back to us.

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

+1

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

+1

Wow just 250 students. What a waste of taxpayers money. They could easily have used all that money for something better and the kids can go to the next nearest DCPS school.

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

Right, this is a good illustration. The Coolidge comparison was simply meant to illustrate the same point in a nearby location.

Charter schools should not be defunded and indeed should be helped to better facilities when they outperform and outenroll.

The city spent $130 million building a pool at Roosevelt High School, a school with one of the lowest take-up rates among in-boundary children in the city. The entire annual budget of DCI is about $45 million.

That pool can also be used by all city residents including charter school students. What's your point?

This. What a weird thing to complain about. It's fine if some schools have pools and pools cost money, but they're for everyone. I go to the Dunbar pool all the time myself.

Seems like a pretty glaring example of the funding disparities between charters and DCPS. Some of these charter schools don't even have gyms.

It's more like DCPS is more connected with other DCPS and other city services than charters are, in a way that makes it difficult to do an apples to apples comparison of this stuff.

Please. Open your eyes and use your brain. Half the kids in this city go to DCPS. Half go to charters. If they go to DCPS, the facilities are lavish -- so lavish many schools win design awards. They go to schools that have Olympic sized pools, even if the school doesn't have enough kids interested in swimming to field a swim team. And the teachers are among the highest paid in the country. If the kids go to charters, the facilities are outdated, cramped and sometimes outright decrepit. And the teachers work for a fraction of what DCPS pays. And it's all because the city actively discriminates against children based on which school they happen to attend. It's indefensible.

Tour Yu Ying and get back to us.

Roosevelt's pool cost four times as much as that entire buidling.

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

Right, this is a good illustration. The Coolidge comparison was simply meant to illustrate the same point in a nearby location.

Charter schools should not be defunded and indeed should be helped to better facilities when they outperform and outenroll.

The city spent $130 million building a pool at Roosevelt High School, a school with one of the lowest take-up rates among in-boundary children in the city. The entire annual budget of DCI is about $45 million.

That pool can also be used by all city residents including charter school students. What's your point?

This. What a weird thing to complain about. It's fine if some schools have pools and pools cost money, but they're for everyone. I go to the Dunbar pool all the time myself.

Seems like a pretty glaring example of the funding disparities between charters and DCPS. Some of these charter schools don't even have gyms.

It's more like DCPS is more connected with other DCPS and other city services than charters are, in a way that makes it difficult to do an apples to apples comparison of this stuff.

Please. Open your eyes and use your brain. Half the kids in this city go to DCPS. Half go to charters. If they go to DCPS, the facilities are lavish -- so lavish many schools win design awards. They go to schools that have Olympic sized pools, even if the school doesn't have enough kids interested in swimming to field a swim team. And the teachers are among the highest paid in the country. If the kids go to charters, the facilities are outdated, cramped and sometimes outright decrepit. And the teachers work for a fraction of what DCPS pays. And it's all because the city actively discriminates against children based on which school they happen to attend. It's indefensible.

Tour Yu Ying and get back to us.

Roosevelt's pool cost four times as much as that entire buidling.

K, but it isn't for Roosevelt's exclusive use.

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

Right, this is a good illustration. The Coolidge comparison was simply meant to illustrate the same point in a nearby location.

Charter schools should not be defunded and indeed should be helped to better facilities when they outperform and outenroll.

The city spent $130 million building a pool at Roosevelt High School, a school with one of the lowest take-up rates among in-boundary children in the city. The entire annual budget of DCI is about $45 million.

That pool can also be used by all city residents including charter school students. What's your point?

This. What a weird thing to complain about. It's fine if some schools have pools and pools cost money, but they're for everyone. I go to the Dunbar pool all the time myself.

Seems like a pretty glaring example of the funding disparities between charters and DCPS. Some of these charter schools don't even have gyms.

It's more like DCPS is more connected with other DCPS and other city services than charters are, in a way that makes it difficult to do an apples to apples comparison of this stuff.

Please. Open your eyes and use your brain. Half the kids in this city go to DCPS. Half go to charters. If they go to DCPS, the facilities are lavish -- so lavish many schools win design awards. They go to schools that have Olympic sized pools, even if the school doesn't have enough kids interested in swimming to field a swim team. And the teachers are among the highest paid in the country. If the kids go to charters, the facilities are outdated, cramped and sometimes outright decrepit. And the teachers work for a fraction of what DCPS pays. And it's all because the city actively discriminates against children based on which school they happen to attend. It's indefensible.

Tour Yu Ying and get back to us.

Roosevelt's pool cost four times as much as that entire buidling.

K, but it isn't for Roosevelt's exclusive use.

Yes, it's open from 6:15am to 6:45am every other Tuesday, so clearly it's for the entire city.

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

Right, this is a good illustration. The Coolidge comparison was simply meant to illustrate the same point in a nearby location.

Charter schools should not be defunded and indeed should be helped to better facilities when they outperform and outenroll.

The city spent $130 million building a pool at Roosevelt High School, a school with one of the lowest take-up rates among in-boundary children in the city. The entire annual budget of DCI is about $45 million.

That pool can also be used by all city residents including charter school students. What's your point?

This. What a weird thing to complain about. It's fine if some schools have pools and pools cost money, but they're for everyone. I go to the Dunbar pool all the time myself.

Seems like a pretty glaring example of the funding disparities between charters and DCPS. Some of these charter schools don't even have gyms.

It's more like DCPS is more connected with other DCPS and other city services than charters are, in a way that makes it difficult to do an apples to apples comparison of this stuff.

Please. Open your eyes and use your brain. Half the kids in this city go to DCPS. Half go to charters. If they go to DCPS, the facilities are lavish -- so lavish many schools win design awards. They go to schools that have Olympic sized pools, even if the school doesn't have enough kids interested in swimming to field a swim team. And the teachers are among the highest paid in the country. If the kids go to charters, the facilities are outdated, cramped and sometimes outright decrepit. And the teachers work for a fraction of what DCPS pays. And it's all because the city actively discriminates against children based on which school they happen to attend. It's indefensible.

Tour Yu Ying and get back to us.

Roosevelt's pool cost four times as much as that entire buidling.

K, but it isn't for Roosevelt's exclusive use.

Yes, it's open from 6:15am to 6:45am every other Tuesday, so clearly it's for the entire city.

Must you spread misinformation? DPR website says this:

Monday - Friday: 6 am - 9 am & 5 pm - 9 pm
Saturday & Sunday: Closed

I don't know the daytime schedule but others have said that other school programs use it. Also when there are swim meets, kids from other schools are using it, right?

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

This is kinda bonkers. Anacostia High School is 247,000 square feet. That's much, much, MUCH bigger than a Walmart. How do 250 kids occupy 247,000 square feet?

Same story with Ballou. It's 350,000 square feet and has fewer than 600 students. The renovation is gorgeous.

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

Right, this is a good illustration. The Coolidge comparison was simply meant to illustrate the same point in a nearby location.

Charter schools should not be defunded and indeed should be helped to better facilities when they outperform and outenroll.

The city spent $130 million building a pool at Roosevelt High School, a school with one of the lowest take-up rates among in-boundary children in the city. The entire annual budget of DCI is about $45 million.

That pool can also be used by all city residents including charter school students. What's your point?

This. What a weird thing to complain about. It's fine if some schools have pools and pools cost money, but they're for everyone. I go to the Dunbar pool all the time myself.

Seems like a pretty glaring example of the funding disparities between charters and DCPS. Some of these charter schools don't even have gyms.

It's more like DCPS is more connected with other DCPS and other city services than charters are, in a way that makes it difficult to do an apples to apples comparison of this stuff.

Please. Open your eyes and use your brain. Half the kids in this city go to DCPS. Half go to charters. If they go to DCPS, the facilities are lavish -- so lavish many schools win design awards. They go to schools that have Olympic sized pools, even if the school doesn't have enough kids interested in swimming to field a swim team. And the teachers are among the highest paid in the country. If the kids go to charters, the facilities are outdated, cramped and sometimes outright decrepit. And the teachers work for a fraction of what DCPS pays. And it's all because the city actively discriminates against children based on which school they happen to attend. It's indefensible.

Tour Yu Ying and get back to us.

Roosevelt's pool cost four times as much as that entire buidling.

K, but it isn't for Roosevelt's exclusive use.

Yes, it's open from 6:15am to 6:45am every other Tuesday, so clearly it's for the entire city.

Must you spread misinformation? DPR website says this:

Monday - Friday: 6 am - 9 am & 5 pm - 9 pm
Saturday & Sunday: Closed

I don't know the daytime schedule but others have said that other school programs use it. Also when there are swim meets, kids from other schools are using it, right?

I think they were making fun because it's closed on the weekends, and also closed whenever school is open, so the times when the public can actually use it are extremely limited.

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

Right, this is a good illustration. The Coolidge comparison was simply meant to illustrate the same point in a nearby location.

Charter schools should not be defunded and indeed should be helped to better facilities when they outperform and outenroll.

The city spent $130 million building a pool at Roosevelt High School, a school with one of the lowest take-up rates among in-boundary children in the city. The entire annual budget of DCI is about $45 million.

That pool can also be used by all city residents including charter school students. What's your point?

This. What a weird thing to complain about. It's fine if some schools have pools and pools cost money, but they're for everyone. I go to the Dunbar pool all the time myself.

Seems like a pretty glaring example of the funding disparities between charters and DCPS. Some of these charter schools don't even have gyms.

It's more like DCPS is more connected with other DCPS and other city services than charters are, in a way that makes it difficult to do an apples to apples comparison of this stuff.

Please. Open your eyes and use your brain. Half the kids in this city go to DCPS. Half go to charters. If they go to DCPS, the facilities are lavish -- so lavish many schools win design awards. They go to schools that have Olympic sized pools, even if the school doesn't have enough kids interested in swimming to field a swim team. And the teachers are among the highest paid in the country. If the kids go to charters, the facilities are outdated, cramped and sometimes outright decrepit. And the teachers work for a fraction of what DCPS pays. And it's all because the city actively discriminates against children based on which school they happen to attend. It's indefensible.

Tour Yu Ying and get back to us.

Roosevelt's pool cost four times as much as that entire buidling.

K, but it isn't for Roosevelt's exclusive use.

Yes, it's open from 6:15am to 6:45am every other Tuesday, so clearly it's for the entire city.

Must you spread misinformation? DPR website says this:

Monday - Friday: 6 am - 9 am & 5 pm - 9 pm
Saturday & Sunday: Closed

I don't know the daytime schedule but others have said that other school programs use it. Also when there are swim meets, kids from other schools are using it, right?

I think they were making fun because it's closed on the weekends, and also closed whenever school is open, so the times when the public can actually use it are extremely limited.

Ha ha, so funny, only 35 hours a week so basically nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

Right, this is a good illustration. The Coolidge comparison was simply meant to illustrate the same point in a nearby location.

Charter schools should not be defunded and indeed should be helped to better facilities when they outperform and outenroll.

The city spent $130 million building a pool at Roosevelt High School, a school with one of the lowest take-up rates among in-boundary children in the city. The entire annual budget of DCI is about $45 million.

That pool can also be used by all city residents including charter school students. What's your point?

This. What a weird thing to complain about. It's fine if some schools have pools and pools cost money, but they're for everyone. I go to the Dunbar pool all the time myself.

Seems like a pretty glaring example of the funding disparities between charters and DCPS. Some of these charter schools don't even have gyms.

It's more like DCPS is more connected with other DCPS and other city services than charters are, in a way that makes it difficult to do an apples to apples comparison of this stuff.

Please. Open your eyes and use your brain. Half the kids in this city go to DCPS. Half go to charters. If they go to DCPS, the facilities are lavish -- so lavish many schools win design awards. They go to schools that have Olympic sized pools, even if the school doesn't have enough kids interested in swimming to field a swim team. And the teachers are among the highest paid in the country. If the kids go to charters, the facilities are outdated, cramped and sometimes outright decrepit. And the teachers work for a fraction of what DCPS pays. And it's all because the city actively discriminates against children based on which school they happen to attend. It's indefensible.

Tour Yu Ying and get back to us.

Roosevelt's pool cost four times as much as that entire buidling.

K, but it isn't for Roosevelt's exclusive use.

Yes, it's open from 6:15am to 6:45am every other Tuesday, so clearly it's for the entire city.

Must you spread misinformation? DPR website says this:

Monday - Friday: 6 am - 9 am & 5 pm - 9 pm
Saturday & Sunday: Closed

I don't know the daytime schedule but others have said that other school programs use it. Also when there are swim meets, kids from other schools are using it, right?

I think they were making fun because it's closed on the weekends, and also closed whenever school is open, so the times when the public can actually use it are extremely limited.

Ha ha, so funny, only 35 hours a week so basically nothing.

Have you been there? No one uses it. It's almost always empty. Maybe if they were open when people actually want to go there....

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I understand utilities are also part of this facilities funding? So as taxpayers we are paying one per pupil rate, and for half of the city’s students that rate can cover salaries, curriculum, utilities, and renovations. And then for the other half it covers higher salaries, and then we pay additional money for all of the buildings, the renovations, AND the expense of keeping them running? Plus extra for extra programming. It just sounds expensive.

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

Right, this is a good illustration. The Coolidge comparison was simply meant to illustrate the same point in a nearby location.

Charter schools should not be defunded and indeed should be helped to better facilities when they outperform and outenroll.

The city spent $130 million building a pool at Roosevelt High School, a school with one of the lowest take-up rates among in-boundary children in the city. The entire annual budget of DCI is about $45 million.

That pool can also be used by all city residents including charter school students. What's your point?

This. What a weird thing to complain about. It's fine if some schools have pools and pools cost money, but they're for everyone. I go to the Dunbar pool all the time myself.

Seems like a pretty glaring example of the funding disparities between charters and DCPS. Some of these charter schools don't even have gyms.

It's more like DCPS is more connected with other DCPS and other city services than charters are, in a way that makes it difficult to do an apples to apples comparison of this stuff.

Please. Open your eyes and use your brain. Half the kids in this city go to DCPS. Half go to charters. If they go to DCPS, the facilities are lavish -- so lavish many schools win design awards. They go to schools that have Olympic sized pools, even if the school doesn't have enough kids interested in swimming to field a swim team. And the teachers are among the highest paid in the country. If the kids go to charters, the facilities are outdated, cramped and sometimes outright decrepit. And the teachers work for a fraction of what DCPS pays. And it's all because the city actively discriminates against children based on which school they happen to attend. It's indefensible.

Tour Yu Ying and get back to us.

Roosevelt's pool cost four times as much as that entire buidling.

K, but it isn't for Roosevelt's exclusive use.

Yes, it's open from 6:15am to 6:45am every other Tuesday, so clearly it's for the entire city.

Must you spread misinformation? DPR website says this:

Monday - Friday: 6 am - 9 am & 5 pm - 9 pm
Saturday & Sunday: Closed

I don't know the daytime schedule but others have said that other school programs use it. Also when there are swim meets, kids from other schools are using it, right?

I think they were making fun because it's closed on the weekends, and also closed whenever school is open, so the times when the public can actually use it are extremely limited.

Ha ha, so funny, only 35 hours a week so basically nothing.

Have you been there? No one uses it. It's almost always empty. Maybe if they were open when people actually want to go there....

No, but I go to Dunbar and people are there. Lots of people like to swim before and after work, those are normal times to work out. Similar hours to DPR pools. If people aren't using Roosevelt I don't know why.

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Anonymous wrote:An unpopular opinion for DCUM- if the charters were properly funded the better ones would blow DCPS out of the water. So many struggle under the costs of facilities and teacher turn over from low salaries. If Charters had money to solve those problems the middling to good ones could be amazing.

+1 on this.

Also, Coolidge has a lot larger and better facilities than DCI which holds around the same number of high schoolers. Sports facilities in particular. DCI could have used the space next to it for a much-needed sports field, but townhouses are going up instead. Now the school is battling neighbors to try to use a nearby park for athletics. The charter schools can't just easily move and buy new buildings left and right, and they aren't provided with enough funds to truly utilize public and DC-owned space like Walter Reed. Meanwhile, there is no way that DCPS could serve all the kids currently in charters - if all of DCI changed to Coolidge overnight, for example.

DCI is approximately the same square footage as Anacostia High School, except DCI has 1,700 students and Anacostia has 250, and Anacostia High School is much, much nicer.

https://washingtonian.com/2014/02/03/anacostia-high-school-renovation-snags-design-award/

Right, this is a good illustration. The Coolidge comparison was simply meant to illustrate the same point in a nearby location.

Charter schools should not be defunded and indeed should be helped to better facilities when they outperform and outenroll.

The city spent $130 million building a pool at Roosevelt High School, a school with one of the lowest take-up rates among in-boundary children in the city. The entire annual budget of DCI is about $45 million.

That pool can also be used by all city residents including charter school students. What's your point?

This. What a weird thing to complain about. It's fine if some schools have pools and pools cost money, but they're for everyone. I go to the Dunbar pool all the time myself.

Seems like a pretty glaring example of the funding disparities between charters and DCPS. Some of these charter schools don't even have gyms.

It's more like DCPS is more connected with other DCPS and other city services than charters are, in a way that makes it difficult to do an apples to apples comparison of this stuff.

Please. Open your eyes and use your brain. Half the kids in this city go to DCPS. Half go to charters. If they go to DCPS, the facilities are lavish -- so lavish many schools win design awards. They go to schools that have Olympic sized pools, even if the school doesn't have enough kids interested in swimming to field a swim team. And the teachers are among the highest paid in the country. If the kids go to charters, the facilities are outdated, cramped and sometimes outright decrepit. And the teachers work for a fraction of what DCPS pays. And it's all because the city actively discriminates against children based on which school they happen to attend. It's indefensible.

You are being absurd now.

Yes, there are a handful of schools that meet your "lavish" designation. They were overdone with good but flawed intentions.

The other 100+ schools in DCPS are nowhere near lavish.

Many are crowded. Many have no meaningful field space. Some ES have no gym. Maybe a couple have pools that are not DPR pools?

Meanwhile, the teacher pay thing is about the union, not government randomly deciding to pay the teachers fairly.

There is a discussion to be had here, but egregiously overstating the situation does not facilitate that discussion.