Emergency Legal Filing Seeks to Halt MCPS Plan to Close Wootton High School

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some are legitimately concerned about the process (is it closing Wootton or just moving everyone and combining them with others to form a new school - Crown), especially as we look ahead to the ES boundary study. Seems likely that will have school closures and we should all hope that will be done following the proper process.

If it weren’t for the ES boundary study coming up, I might agree that the parkway parents are just being over the top. But I think we need to sort out the process now, or MCPS could take shortcuts with ES school closures countywide.

Is this an area where the BOE could step in and adopt new policies that make process clear?

Yup, MCPS BoE is the final authority and the ones who approve any changes to Policy FAA. As written, it's pretty vague.

They could also adjust timelines, require the superintendent do another round of feedback etc without having to change the policy at all.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf

That would be the smart move to head off a lawsuit. It would mean the plaintiffs will not have exhausted their administrative remedies under BOE regulations.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some are legitimately concerned about the process (is it closing Wootton or just moving everyone and combining them with others to form a new school - Crown), especially as we look ahead to the ES boundary study. Seems likely that will have school closures and we should all hope that will be done following the proper process.

If it weren’t for the ES boundary study coming up, I might agree that the parkway parents are just being over the top. But I think we need to sort out the process now, or MCPS could take shortcuts with ES school closures countywide.

Is this an area where the BOE could step in and adopt new policies that make process clear?

Yup, MCPS BoE is the final authority and the ones who approve any changes to Policy FAA. As written, it's pretty vague.

They could also adjust timelines, require the superintendent do another round of feedback etc without having to change the policy at all.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf

That would be the smart move to head off a lawsuit. It would mean the plaintiffs will not have exhausted their administrative remedies under BOE regulations.

No, because plaintiffs are always allowed to submit an appeal to the BoE even if MCPS follows all their procedures correctly, which as far as I can tell they did, and nobody has posted a clear-cut violation of policy FAA.

I've yet to see a ruling against a local board because the state board always defers to the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, illegal, or unreasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some are legitimately concerned about the process (is it closing Wootton or just moving everyone and combining them with others to form a new school - Crown), especially as we look ahead to the ES boundary study. Seems likely that will have school closures and we should all hope that will be done following the proper process.

If it weren’t for the ES boundary study coming up, I might agree that the parkway parents are just being over the top. But I think we need to sort out the process now, or MCPS could take shortcuts with ES school closures countywide.

Is this an area where the BOE could step in and adopt new policies that make process clear?

Yup, MCPS BoE is the final authority and the ones who approve any changes to Policy FAA. As written, it's pretty vague.

They could also adjust timelines, require the superintendent do another round of feedback etc without having to change the policy at all.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf

That would be the smart move to head off a lawsuit. It would mean the plaintiffs will not have exhausted their administrative remedies under BOE regulations.

No, because plaintiffs are always allowed to submit an appeal to the BoE even if MCPS follows all their procedures correctly, which as far as I can tell they did, and nobody has posted a clear-cut violation of policy FAA.

I've yet to see a ruling against a local board because the state board always defers to the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, illegal, or unreasonable.

Taylor has burned some credibility with the MD BOE over his EV bus contract.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some are legitimately concerned about the process (is it closing Wootton or just moving everyone and combining them with others to form a new school - Crown), especially as we look ahead to the ES boundary study. Seems likely that will have school closures and we should all hope that will be done following the proper process.

If it weren’t for the ES boundary study coming up, I might agree that the parkway parents are just being over the top. But I think we need to sort out the process now, or MCPS could take shortcuts with ES school closures countywide.

Is this an area where the BOE could step in and adopt new policies that make process clear?

Yup, MCPS BoE is the final authority and the ones who approve any changes to Policy FAA. As written, it's pretty vague.

They could also adjust timelines, require the superintendent do another round of feedback etc without having to change the policy at all.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf

That would be the smart move to head off a lawsuit. It would mean the plaintiffs will not have exhausted their administrative remedies under BOE regulations.

No, because plaintiffs are always allowed to submit an appeal to the BoE even if MCPS follows all their procedures correctly, which as far as I can tell they did, and nobody has posted a clear-cut violation of policy FAA.

I've yet to see a ruling against a local board because the state board always defers to the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, illegal, or unreasonable.

Just don’t want to see this debate expand exponentially with the ES boundary study.

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Anonymous wrote:Way to go Wooton families. Make MCPs spend a ton of money on legal fees so now all school have less resources, and less staffing and less money to spend on OUR kids. Do you have any idea what long term mold issues look like?? Oh but wait… your property values will MAYBE remain the same so who gives an f about the long term health ramifications.

Legal challenges aren’t about “taking money from kids”—they’re about making sure big decisions are made correctly and transparently, and if the process was sound it should hold up. No one is saying building issues or things like mold should be ignored; the question is whether relocating an entire school is the right fix or whether those problems should be addressed directly. And reducing everything to property values just sidesteps the reality that people can care about building conditions, good planning, and community impact all at the same time.

Based on your logic, no legal challenges to ANY government decisions should ever be made because the government would have to spend tax dollars to defend itself. I guess the indigent shouldn’t get public defenders for criminal cases because those cost tax dollars too.

Of course there should be the option of legal recourse when someone is at risk of losing their freedom or a basic human right. No such thing is occurring in this issue-your right to public education is being upheld.

So the government can break the law as it pleases if you agree with the outcome? MCPS must follow the law. You might believe that it has, but that’s not up to you.

Just because the Parkway parents didn't like the process or the outcome also doesn't mean MCPS didn't follow the law.

The two claims in the emergency filing are weak, but maybe they're saving up the actual good arguments for the lawsuit when this filing is denied?

So let the process play out. Btw, this situation likely wouldn’t exist if MCPS had done things in a more transparent way, so it only has itself to blame.

MCPS was going to be sued either way because the Wootton boundaries were changing and the Wootton parents are some of the most engaged parents in the county and they have the resources to hire lawyers. If it wasn't the Parkway parents, it'd be the DuFief dads. The only way to avoid a lawsuit was to keep the status quo, which wasn't possible because they built an entirely new school and need to fill it with kids.

I'm here mostly to see if someone can actually point to a process deficiency, because MCPS will be doing another boundary study immediately and maybe we can save the next angry school group some money on lawyer fees.

This is exactly why process matters. Option H may not affect you now but rest assured MCPS will be happy to do another sh*t of boundary process round 2 unless they are put in their place.

First they came for Wootton, and I did not speak out — for it was not my school, but a “W” with rich parents.

Then they deferred Magruder, and I did not speak out — for delay is quiet, and quiet is easy to ignore.

Then they moved the boundaries, and I did not speak out— for lines on paper are always redrawn somewhere else.

Then they closed my school, and there was no one left to speak for me.

You are missing key facts. Your group screamed the loudest with safety and health issues within the building. Mcps listened and is moving the school population out. Yea, you won. Many want the move.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some are legitimately concerned about the process (is it closing Wootton or just moving everyone and combining them with others to form a new school - Crown), especially as we look ahead to the ES boundary study. Seems likely that will have school closures and we should all hope that will be done following the proper process.

If it weren’t for the ES boundary study coming up, I might agree that the parkway parents are just being over the top. But I think we need to sort out the process now, or MCPS could take shortcuts with ES school closures countywide.

Is this an area where the BOE could step in and adopt new policies that make process clear?

Yup, MCPS BoE is the final authority and the ones who approve any changes to Policy FAA. As written, it's pretty vague.

They could also adjust timelines, require the superintendent do another round of feedback etc without having to change the policy at all.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf

That would be the smart move to head off a lawsuit. It would mean the plaintiffs will not have exhausted their administrative remedies under BOE regulations.

No, because plaintiffs are always allowed to submit an appeal to the BoE even if MCPS follows all their procedures correctly, which as far as I can tell they did, and nobody has posted a clear-cut violation of policy FAA.

I've yet to see a ruling against a local board because the state board always defers to the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, illegal, or unreasonable.

Just don’t want to see this debate expand exponentially with the ES boundary study.

It will because it'll involve closures, especially at the elementary / middle school levels. We had a realtor post previously that having an elementary school / middle school in walking distance was a much larger bump in property values than a high school, because parents dream about walking their little kids to school.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some are legitimately concerned about the process (is it closing Wootton or just moving everyone and combining them with others to form a new school - Crown), especially as we look ahead to the ES boundary study. Seems likely that will have school closures and we should all hope that will be done following the proper process.

If it weren’t for the ES boundary study coming up, I might agree that the parkway parents are just being over the top. But I think we need to sort out the process now, or MCPS could take shortcuts with ES school closures countywide.

Is this an area where the BOE could step in and adopt new policies that make process clear?

Yup, MCPS BoE is the final authority and the ones who approve any changes to Policy FAA. As written, it's pretty vague.

They could also adjust timelines, require the superintendent do another round of feedback etc without having to change the policy at all.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf

That would be the smart move to head off a lawsuit. It would mean the plaintiffs will not have exhausted their administrative remedies under BOE regulations.

No, because plaintiffs are always allowed to submit an appeal to the BoE even if MCPS follows all their procedures correctly, which as far as I can tell they did, and nobody has posted a clear-cut violation of policy FAA.

I've yet to see a ruling against a local board because the state board always defers to the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, illegal, or unreasonable.

Just don’t want to see this debate expand exponentially with the ES boundary study.

It will because it'll involve closures, especially at the elementary / middle school levels. We had a realtor post previously that having an elementary school / middle school in walking distance was a much larger bump in property values than a high school, because parents dream about walking their little kids to school.

So what you’re saying is that all those ES and MS parents who didn’t say anything about Wootton being closed and moved to Crown will suddenly become very concerned about their property values?

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Anonymous wrote:Way to go Wooton families. Make MCPs spend a ton of money on legal fees so now all school have less resources, and less staffing and less money to spend on OUR kids. Do you have any idea what long term mold issues look like?? Oh but wait… your property values will MAYBE remain the same so who gives an f about the long term health ramifications.

Legal challenges aren’t about “taking money from kids”—they’re about making sure big decisions are made correctly and transparently, and if the process was sound it should hold up. No one is saying building issues or things like mold should be ignored; the question is whether relocating an entire school is the right fix or whether those problems should be addressed directly. And reducing everything to property values just sidesteps the reality that people can care about building conditions, good planning, and community impact all at the same time.

Based on your logic, no legal challenges to ANY government decisions should ever be made because the government would have to spend tax dollars to defend itself. I guess the indigent shouldn’t get public defenders for criminal cases because those cost tax dollars too.

Of course there should be the option of legal recourse when someone is at risk of losing their freedom or a basic human right. No such thing is occurring in this issue-your right to public education is being upheld.

So the government can break the law as it pleases if you agree with the outcome? MCPS must follow the law. You might believe that it has, but that’s not up to you.

Just because the Parkway parents didn't like the process or the outcome also doesn't mean MCPS didn't follow the law.

The two claims in the emergency filing are weak, but maybe they're saving up the actual good arguments for the lawsuit when this filing is denied?

So let the process play out. Btw, this situation likely wouldn’t exist if MCPS had done things in a more transparent way, so it only has itself to blame.

MCPS was going to be sued either way because the Wootton boundaries were changing and the Wootton parents are some of the most engaged parents in the county and they have the resources to hire lawyers. If it wasn't the Parkway parents, it'd be the DuFief dads. The only way to avoid a lawsuit was to keep the status quo, which wasn't possible because they built an entirely new school and need to fill it with kids.

I'm here mostly to see if someone can actually point to a process deficiency, because MCPS will be doing another boundary study immediately and maybe we can save the next angry school group some money on lawyer fees.

This is exactly why process matters. Option H may not affect you now but rest assured MCPS will be happy to do another sh*t of boundary process round 2 unless they are put in their place.

First they came for Wootton, and I did not speak out — for it was not my school, but a “W” with rich parents.

Then they deferred Magruder, and I did not speak out — for delay is quiet, and quiet is easy to ignore.

Then they moved the boundaries, and I did not speak out— for lines on paper are always redrawn somewhere else.

Then they closed my school, and there was no one left to speak for me.

You are missing key facts. Your group screamed the loudest with safety and health issues within the building. Mcps listened and is moving the school population out. Yea, you won. Many want the move.

Sigh. Renovation in situ not relocation.

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Anonymous wrote:Way to go Wooton families. Make MCPs spend a ton of money on legal fees so now all school have less resources, and less staffing and less money to spend on OUR kids. Do you have any idea what long term mold issues look like?? Oh but wait… your property values will MAYBE remain the same so who gives an f about the long term health ramifications.

Legal challenges aren’t about “taking money from kids”—they’re about making sure big decisions are made correctly and transparently, and if the process was sound it should hold up. No one is saying building issues or things like mold should be ignored; the question is whether relocating an entire school is the right fix or whether those problems should be addressed directly. And reducing everything to property values just sidesteps the reality that people can care about building conditions, good planning, and community impact all at the same time.

Based on your logic, no legal challenges to ANY government decisions should ever be made because the government would have to spend tax dollars to defend itself. I guess the indigent shouldn’t get public defenders for criminal cases because those cost tax dollars too.

Of course there should be the option of legal recourse when someone is at risk of losing their freedom or a basic human right. No such thing is occurring in this issue-your right to public education is being upheld.

So the government can break the law as it pleases if you agree with the outcome? MCPS must follow the law. You might believe that it has, but that’s not up to you.

Just because the Parkway parents didn't like the process or the outcome also doesn't mean MCPS didn't follow the law.

The two claims in the emergency filing are weak, but maybe they're saving up the actual good arguments for the lawsuit when this filing is denied?

So let the process play out. Btw, this situation likely wouldn’t exist if MCPS had done things in a more transparent way, so it only has itself to blame.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!! MCPS could have gone into each Wooten home personally and walked through the issues and asked their opinions, and there still would have been a law suit.

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Anonymous wrote:Way to go Wooton families. Make MCPs spend a ton of money on legal fees so now all school have less resources, and less staffing and less money to spend on OUR kids. Do you have any idea what long term mold issues look like?? Oh but wait… your property values will MAYBE remain the same so who gives an f about the long term health ramifications.

Legal challenges aren’t about “taking money from kids”—they’re about making sure big decisions are made correctly and transparently, and if the process was sound it should hold up. No one is saying building issues or things like mold should be ignored; the question is whether relocating an entire school is the right fix or whether those problems should be addressed directly. And reducing everything to property values just sidesteps the reality that people can care about building conditions, good planning, and community impact all at the same time.

Based on your logic, no legal challenges to ANY government decisions should ever be made because the government would have to spend tax dollars to defend itself. I guess the indigent shouldn’t get public defenders for criminal cases because those cost tax dollars too.

Of course there should be the option of legal recourse when someone is at risk of losing their freedom or a basic human right. No such thing is occurring in this issue-your right to public education is being upheld.

So the government can break the law as it pleases if you agree with the outcome? MCPS must follow the law. You might believe that it has, but that’s not up to you.

Just because the Parkway parents didn't like the process or the outcome also doesn't mean MCPS didn't follow the law.

The two claims in the emergency filing are weak, but maybe they're saving up the actual good arguments for the lawsuit when this filing is denied?

So let the process play out. Btw, this situation likely wouldn’t exist if MCPS had done things in a more transparent way, so it only has itself to blame.

MCPS was going to be sued either way because the Wootton boundaries were changing and the Wootton parents are some of the most engaged parents in the county and they have the resources to hire lawyers. If it wasn't the Parkway parents, it'd be the DuFief dads. The only way to avoid a lawsuit was to keep the status quo, which wasn't possible because they built an entirely new school and need to fill it with kids.

I'm here mostly to see if someone can actually point to a process deficiency, because MCPS will be doing another boundary study immediately and maybe we can save the next angry school group some money on lawyer fees.

This is exactly why process matters. Option H may not affect you now but rest assured MCPS will be happy to do another sh*t of boundary process round 2 unless they are put in their place.

First they came for Wootton, and I did not speak out — for it was not my school, but a “W” with rich parents.

Then they deferred Magruder, and I did not speak out — for delay is quiet, and quiet is easy to ignore.

Then they moved the boundaries, and I did not speak out— for lines on paper are always redrawn somewhere else.

Then they closed my school, and there was no one left to speak for me.

Oh for the love.
You know all kids will still have a school to go to, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like some are legitimately concerned about the process (is it closing Wootton or just moving everyone and combining them with others to form a new school - Crown), especially as we look ahead to the ES boundary study. Seems likely that will have school closures and we should all hope that will be done following the proper process.

If it weren’t for the ES boundary study coming up, I might agree that the parkway parents are just being over the top. But I think we need to sort out the process now, or MCPS could take shortcuts with ES school closures countywide.

Is this an area where the BOE could step in and adopt new policies that make process clear?

Yup, MCPS BoE is the final authority and the ones who approve any changes to Policy FAA. As written, it's pretty vague.

They could also adjust timelines, require the superintendent do another round of feedback etc without having to change the policy at all.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/faa.pdf

That would be the smart move to head off a lawsuit. It would mean the plaintiffs will not have exhausted their administrative remedies under BOE regulations.

No, because plaintiffs are always allowed to submit an appeal to the BoE even if MCPS follows all their procedures correctly, which as far as I can tell they did, and nobody has posted a clear-cut violation of policy FAA.

I've yet to see a ruling against a local board because the state board always defers to the local board unless the decision is arbitrary, illegal, or unreasonable.

Just don’t want to see this debate expand exponentially with the ES boundary study.

It will because it'll involve closures, especially at the elementary / middle school levels. We had a realtor post previously that having an elementary school / middle school in walking distance was a much larger bump in property values than a high school, because parents dream about walking their little kids to school.

This shouldn’t be the driving force. As a parent I care far more about my kids health than walking distance. From all parent accounts the school is dangerously, especially air quality.

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Anonymous wrote:Way to go Wooton families. Make MCPs spend a ton of money on legal fees so now all school have less resources, and less staffing and less money to spend on OUR kids. Do you have any idea what long term mold issues look like?? Oh but wait… your property values will MAYBE remain the same so who gives an f about the long term health ramifications.

Legal challenges aren’t about “taking money from kids”—they’re about making sure big decisions are made correctly and transparently, and if the process was sound it should hold up. No one is saying building issues or things like mold should be ignored; the question is whether relocating an entire school is the right fix or whether those problems should be addressed directly. And reducing everything to property values just sidesteps the reality that people can care about building conditions, good planning, and community impact all at the same time.

Based on your logic, no legal challenges to ANY government decisions should ever be made because the government would have to spend tax dollars to defend itself. I guess the indigent shouldn’t get public defenders for criminal cases because those cost tax dollars too.

Of course there should be the option of legal recourse when someone is at risk of losing their freedom or a basic human right. No such thing is occurring in this issue-your right to public education is being upheld.

So the government can break the law as it pleases if you agree with the outcome? MCPS must follow the law. You might believe that it has, but that’s not up to you.

Just because the Parkway parents didn't like the process or the outcome also doesn't mean MCPS didn't follow the law.

The two claims in the emergency filing are weak, but maybe they're saving up the actual good arguments for the lawsuit when this filing is denied?

So let the process play out. Btw, this situation likely wouldn’t exist if MCPS had done things in a more transparent way, so it only has itself to blame.

MCPS was going to be sued either way because the Wootton boundaries were changing and the Wootton parents are some of the most engaged parents in the county and they have the resources to hire lawyers. If it wasn't the Parkway parents, it'd be the DuFief dads. The only way to avoid a lawsuit was to keep the status quo, which wasn't possible because they built an entirely new school and need to fill it with kids.

I'm here mostly to see if someone can actually point to a process deficiency, because MCPS will be doing another boundary study immediately and maybe we can save the next angry school group some money on lawyer fees.

This is exactly why process matters. Option H may not affect you now but rest assured MCPS will be happy to do another sh*t of boundary process round 2 unless they are put in their place.

First they came for Wootton, and I did not speak out — for it was not my school, but a “W” with rich parents.

Then they deferred Magruder, and I did not speak out — for delay is quiet, and quiet is easy to ignore.

Then they moved the boundaries, and I did not speak out— for lines on paper are always redrawn somewhere else.

Then they closed my school, and there was no one left to speak for me.

You are missing key facts. Your group screamed the loudest with safety and health issues within the building. Mcps listened and is moving the school population out. Yea, you won. Many want the move.

Sigh. Renovation in situ not relocation.

This makes the most sense what many schools need renovated, some worse and you all screamed the loudest. Why would you want your kids to be at a facility that can cause them serious and long term health issues? Once you develop breathing issues they rarely go away. B

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Anonymous wrote:Way to go Wooton families. Make MCPs spend a ton of money on legal fees so now all school have less resources, and less staffing and less money to spend on OUR kids. Do you have any idea what long term mold issues look like?? Oh but wait… your property values will MAYBE remain the same so who gives an f about the long term health ramifications.

Legal challenges aren’t about “taking money from kids”—they’re about making sure big decisions are made correctly and transparently, and if the process was sound it should hold up. No one is saying building issues or things like mold should be ignored; the question is whether relocating an entire school is the right fix or whether those problems should be addressed directly. And reducing everything to property values just sidesteps the reality that people can care about building conditions, good planning, and community impact all at the same time.

Based on your logic, no legal challenges to ANY government decisions should ever be made because the government would have to spend tax dollars to defend itself. I guess the indigent shouldn’t get public defenders for criminal cases because those cost tax dollars too.

Of course there should be the option of legal recourse when someone is at risk of losing their freedom or a basic human right. No such thing is occurring in this issue-your right to public education is being upheld.

So the government can break the law as it pleases if you agree with the outcome? MCPS must follow the law. You might believe that it has, but that’s not up to you.

Just because the Parkway parents didn't like the process or the outcome also doesn't mean MCPS didn't follow the law.

The two claims in the emergency filing are weak, but maybe they're saving up the actual good arguments for the lawsuit when this filing is denied?

So let the process play out. Btw, this situation likely wouldn’t exist if MCPS had done things in a more transparent way, so it only has itself to blame.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!! MCPS could have gone into each Wooten home personally and walked through the issues and asked their opinions, and there still would have been a law suit.

This x 1000

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Anonymous wrote:Way to go Wooton families. Make MCPs spend a ton of money on legal fees so now all school have less resources, and less staffing and less money to spend on OUR kids. Do you have any idea what long term mold issues look like?? Oh but wait… your property values will MAYBE remain the same so who gives an f about the long term health ramifications.

Legal challenges aren’t about “taking money from kids”—they’re about making sure big decisions are made correctly and transparently, and if the process was sound it should hold up. No one is saying building issues or things like mold should be ignored; the question is whether relocating an entire school is the right fix or whether those problems should be addressed directly. And reducing everything to property values just sidesteps the reality that people can care about building conditions, good planning, and community impact all at the same time.

Based on your logic, no legal challenges to ANY government decisions should ever be made because the government would have to spend tax dollars to defend itself. I guess the indigent shouldn’t get public defenders for criminal cases because those cost tax dollars too.

Of course there should be the option of legal recourse when someone is at risk of losing their freedom or a basic human right. No such thing is occurring in this issue-your right to public education is being upheld.

So the government can break the law as it pleases if you agree with the outcome? MCPS must follow the law. You might believe that it has, but that’s not up to you.

Just because the Parkway parents didn't like the process or the outcome also doesn't mean MCPS didn't follow the law.

The two claims in the emergency filing are weak, but maybe they're saving up the actual good arguments for the lawsuit when this filing is denied?

So let the process play out. Btw, this situation likely wouldn’t exist if MCPS had done things in a more transparent way, so it only has itself to blame.

MCPS was going to be sued either way because the Wootton boundaries were changing and the Wootton parents are some of the most engaged parents in the county and they have the resources to hire lawyers. If it wasn't the Parkway parents, it'd be the DuFief dads. The only way to avoid a lawsuit was to keep the status quo, which wasn't possible because they built an entirely new school and need to fill it with kids.

I'm here mostly to see if someone can actually point to a process deficiency, because MCPS will be doing another boundary study immediately and maybe we can save the next angry school group some money on lawyer fees.

This is exactly why process matters. Option H may not affect you now but rest assured MCPS will be happy to do another sh*t of boundary process round 2 unless they are put in their place.

First they came for Wootton, and I did not speak out — for it was not my school, but a “W” with rich parents.

Then they deferred Magruder, and I did not speak out — for delay is quiet, and quiet is easy to ignore.

Then they moved the boundaries, and I did not speak out— for lines on paper are always redrawn somewhere else.

Then they closed my school, and there was no one left to speak for me.

so you're comparing the boe to ww2?

No. They are comparing the relocation of a high school two miles away to the systematic slaughter of roughly 9 million Jews, Roma, Sinti, homosexuals, political dissidents, and disabled people.

It really tells you where these folks' heads are at.

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Anonymous wrote:Way to go Wooton families. Make MCPs spend a ton of money on legal fees so now all school have less resources, and less staffing and less money to spend on OUR kids. Do you have any idea what long term mold issues look like?? Oh but wait… your property values will MAYBE remain the same so who gives an f about the long term health ramifications.

Legal challenges aren’t about “taking money from kids”—they’re about making sure big decisions are made correctly and transparently, and if the process was sound it should hold up. No one is saying building issues or things like mold should be ignored; the question is whether relocating an entire school is the right fix or whether those problems should be addressed directly. And reducing everything to property values just sidesteps the reality that people can care about building conditions, good planning, and community impact all at the same time.

Based on your logic, no legal challenges to ANY government decisions should ever be made because the government would have to spend tax dollars to defend itself. I guess the indigent shouldn’t get public defenders for criminal cases because those cost tax dollars too.

Of course there should be the option of legal recourse when someone is at risk of losing their freedom or a basic human right. No such thing is occurring in this issue-your right to public education is being upheld.

So the government can break the law as it pleases if you agree with the outcome? MCPS must follow the law. You might believe that it has, but that’s not up to you.

Just because the Parkway parents didn't like the process or the outcome also doesn't mean MCPS didn't follow the law.

The two claims in the emergency filing are weak, but maybe they're saving up the actual good arguments for the lawsuit when this filing is denied?

So let the process play out. Btw, this situation likely wouldn’t exist if MCPS had done things in a more transparent way, so it only has itself to blame.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!! MCPS could have gone into each Wooten home personally and walked through the issues and asked their opinions, and there still would have been a law suit.

Ah, but did they bring a Cantonese interpreter to every home just in case the NIH scientists who live there were not fluent enough in English to understand the discussion?