Attendance pressure

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its ridiculous that kids are being pressured to "make up" attendance hours. How absurd. Excused absence means just that: excused.

So, if a child is sick for a week and misses school, this is "excused." Fine. But, don't you think that this--which sounds like supervised study--would be helpful?

And, FWIW, I cannot recall the number of days, but there is a limit to how many can be excused without some type of reaction from the school.

Study can be done at home. If it’s making up exams, or immediate instruction, it makes sense for it to be after school, with an instructor.

Also, being sick is not the only excused absence.

[Anonymous]

OP is a troll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please point me to policy in writing about these forced after school detentions? Is FCPS actually providing instruction during this time so that they can count it towards instructional hours?

This thread is the first I've ever heard of it. I am wondering if this is just MAGA rumor to bash FCPS.

TDS much? Get a life

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please point me to policy in writing about these forced after school detentions? Is FCPS actually providing instruction during this time so that they can count it towards instructional hours?

This thread is the first I've ever heard of it. I am wondering if this is just MAGA rumor to bash FCPS.

TDS much? Get a life

Gosh. When I was growing up, there were frequently forced detentions. Long before MAGA.


Come in late? Stay after school. Misbehave? Detention after school.

When we had bomb threats (frequent and prior to caller ID) the administration finally decided to keep us after school to make up the time we waited in the parking lot while the first responders checked out the lockers. As soon as they implemented that rule, the bomb threats stopped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Its ridiculous that kids are being pressured to "make up" attendance hours. How absurd. Excused absence means just that: excused.

So, if a child is sick for a week and misses school, this is "excused." Fine. But, don't you think that this--which sounds like supervised study--would be helpful?

And, FWIW, I cannot recall the number of days, but there is a limit to how many can be excused without some type of reaction from the school.

It *could* be helpful, but they are requiring this for kids who have already made up the work and already have straight As and who would miss extracurriculars they care about to do this "make-up"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Asian families don’t take that email seriously because their students are the ones driving FCPS’s academic performance metrics. These students tend to be highly self-directed and often learn far beyond what is taught in the classroom, largely because they are trained and supported from an early age to do so.

+1. FCPS knows there's no moving the attendance needle with families who aren't invested in their children's education. The parents simply don't care and that ship has sailed. They're trying to improve the attendance numbers by going after the families on the other end of the spectrum.

Except they are barking up the wrong tree, as the saying goes. Asking Asian parents to disrupt their winter recess plans and make unwise monetary decisions based on school attendance is more futile than asking parents who don't give a shit about their kids' education to make education-based decisions. Asian parents know their kids are SO FAR ahead of the academic curve, especially in elementary and middle school, that they couldn't give two shits about keeping their kids in school just because the administration sends them that email. They read that email and see "blah blah blah" while their kids are doing SAT practice problems starting in 5th grade. It's kinda laughable that FCPS principals don't know their own kids/families well enough to know there's no needle to move with that crowd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please point me to policy in writing about these forced after school detentions? Is FCPS actually providing instruction during this time so that they can count it towards instructional hours?

This thread is the first I've ever heard of it. I am wondering if this is just MAGA rumor to bash FCPS.

TDS much? Get a life

Gosh. When I was growing up, there were frequently forced detentions. Long before MAGA.


Come in late? Stay after school. Misbehave? Detention after school.

When we had bomb threats (frequent and prior to caller ID) the administration finally decided to keep us after school to make up the time we waited in the parking lot while the first responders checked out the lockers. As soon as they implemented that rule, the bomb threats stopped.

Detention for disciplinary matters sure, detention for excused absences? I agree that sounds fake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Asian families don’t take that email seriously because their students are the ones driving FCPS’s academic performance metrics. These students tend to be highly self-directed and often learn far beyond what is taught in the classroom, largely because they are trained and supported from an early age to do so.

+1. FCPS knows there's no moving the attendance needle with families who aren't invested in their children's education. The parents simply don't care and that ship has sailed. They're trying to improve the attendance numbers by going after the families on the other end of the spectrum.

Except they are barking up the wrong tree, as the saying goes. Asking Asian parents to disrupt their winter recess plans and make unwise monetary decisions based on school attendance is more futile than asking parents who don't give a shit about their kids' education to make education-based decisions. Asian parents know their kids are SO FAR ahead of the academic curve, especially in elementary and middle school, that they couldn't give two shits about keeping their kids in school just because the administration sends them that email. They read that email and see "blah blah blah" while their kids are doing SAT practice problems starting in 5th grade. It's kinda laughable that FCPS principals don't know their own kids/families well enough to know there's no needle to move with that crowd.

Let’s be real, asking anyone who has currently booked international tickets for two weeks from now to change them had an absolute nil chance of success. At best this *could* keep someone from booking something last minute but (personally) my allergy to power-mad tone-deaf emails like this would have me offering my kids a GWL trip for Thursday night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Asian families don’t take that email seriously because their students are the ones driving FCPS’s academic performance metrics. These students tend to be highly self-directed and often learn far beyond what is taught in the classroom, largely because they are trained and supported from an early age to do so.

+1. FCPS knows there's no moving the attendance needle with families who aren't invested in their children's education. The parents simply don't care and that ship has sailed. They're trying to improve the attendance numbers by going after the families on the other end of the spectrum.

Except they are barking up the wrong tree, as the saying goes. Asking Asian parents to disrupt their winter recess plans and make unwise monetary decisions based on school attendance is more futile than asking parents who don't give a shit about their kids' education to make education-based decisions. Asian parents know their kids are SO FAR ahead of the academic curve, especially in elementary and middle school, that they couldn't give two shits about keeping their kids in school just because the administration sends them that email. They read that email and see "blah blah blah" while their kids are doing SAT practice problems starting in 5th grade. It's kinda laughable that FCPS principals don't know their own kids/families well enough to know there's no needle to move with that crowd.

I don’t know about race, but yeah if the kid isn’t struggling, it’s not something to consider seriously, especially before high school.

Why don’t they remind people at the beginning and end of the school year rather than 2 weeks before break? Almost no one is buying tickets now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Asian families don’t take that email seriously because their students are the ones driving FCPS’s academic performance metrics. These students tend to be highly self-directed and often learn far beyond what is taught in the classroom, largely because they are trained and supported from an early age to do so.

+1. FCPS knows there's no moving the attendance needle with families who aren't invested in their children's education. The parents simply don't care and that ship has sailed. They're trying to improve the attendance numbers by going after the families on the other end of the spectrum.

Except they are barking up the wrong tree, as the saying goes. Asking Asian parents to disrupt their winter recess plans and make unwise monetary decisions based on school attendance is more futile than asking parents who don't give a shit about their kids' education to make education-based decisions. Asian parents know their kids are SO FAR ahead of the academic curve, especially in elementary and middle school, that they couldn't give two shits about keeping their kids in school just because the administration sends them that email. They read that email and see "blah blah blah" while their kids are doing SAT practice problems starting in 5th grade. It's kinda laughable that FCPS principals don't know their own kids/families well enough to know there's no needle to move with that crowd.

The issue is that VDOE is now using attendance as a measure of school success. The parents taking weeks off in addition to the regular vacation are hurting a statistic that was just introduced to the score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Asian families don’t take that email seriously because their students are the ones driving FCPS’s academic performance metrics. These students tend to be highly self-directed and often learn far beyond what is taught in the classroom, largely because they are trained and supported from an early age to do so.

+1. FCPS knows there's no moving the attendance needle with families who aren't invested in their children's education. The parents simply don't care and that ship has sailed. They're trying to improve the attendance numbers by going after the families on the other end of the spectrum.

Except they are barking up the wrong tree, as the saying goes. Asking Asian parents to disrupt their winter recess plans and make unwise monetary decisions based on school attendance is more futile than asking parents who don't give a shit about their kids' education to make education-based decisions. Asian parents know their kids are SO FAR ahead of the academic curve, especially in elementary and middle school, that they couldn't give two shits about keeping their kids in school just because the administration sends them that email. They read that email and see "blah blah blah" while their kids are doing SAT practice problems starting in 5th grade. It's kinda laughable that FCPS principals don't know their own kids/families well enough to know there's no needle to move with that crowd.

I don’t know about race, but yeah if the kid isn’t struggling, it’s not something to consider seriously, especially before high school.

Why don’t they remind people at the beginning and end of the school year rather than 2 weeks before break? Almost no one is buying tickets now.

Did you not get the emails at the beginning of the school year about attendance and attendance being important and don't miss school and be at school. There were almost weekly emails before the school year even started.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Asian families don’t take that email seriously because their students are the ones driving FCPS’s academic performance metrics. These students tend to be highly self-directed and often learn far beyond what is taught in the classroom, largely because they are trained and supported from an early age to do so.

+1. FCPS knows there's no moving the attendance needle with families who aren't invested in their children's education. The parents simply don't care and that ship has sailed. They're trying to improve the attendance numbers by going after the families on the other end of the spectrum.

Except they are barking up the wrong tree, as the saying goes. Asking Asian parents to disrupt their winter recess plans and make unwise monetary decisions based on school attendance is more futile than asking parents who don't give a shit about their kids' education to make education-based decisions. Asian parents know their kids are SO FAR ahead of the academic curve, especially in elementary and middle school, that they couldn't give two shits about keeping their kids in school just because the administration sends them that email. They read that email and see "blah blah blah" while their kids are doing SAT practice problems starting in 5th grade. It's kinda laughable that FCPS principals don't know their own kids/families well enough to know there's no needle to move with that crowd.

The issue is that VDOE is now using attendance as a measure of school success. The parents taking weeks off in addition to the regular vacation are hurting a statistic that was just introduced to the score.

In which case, the schools need to be credible with the parents. Expecting that on December 4 people will cancel plans for December 19? Not credible.

Making reference to the cost of plane tickets is especially tone deaf-- principles know parents are struggling to balance costs and think thousands of dollars belong in keeping students in a low activity week?

FCPS could fix this by moving planning days days of high absenteeism. Fixes their stats in one fell swoop and looks responsive. If they don’t want to take that step, they have no right, blaming parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Asian families don’t take that email seriously because their students are the ones driving FCPS’s academic performance metrics. These students tend to be highly self-directed and often learn far beyond what is taught in the classroom, largely because they are trained and supported from an early age to do so.

+1. FCPS knows there's no moving the attendance needle with families who aren't invested in their children's education. The parents simply don't care and that ship has sailed. They're trying to improve the attendance numbers by going after the families on the other end of the spectrum.

Except they are barking up the wrong tree, as the saying goes. Asking Asian parents to disrupt their winter recess plans and make unwise monetary decisions based on school attendance is more futile than asking parents who don't give a shit about their kids' education to make education-based decisions. Asian parents know their kids are SO FAR ahead of the academic curve, especially in elementary and middle school, that they couldn't give two shits about keeping their kids in school just because the administration sends them that email. They read that email and see "blah blah blah" while their kids are doing SAT practice problems starting in 5th grade. It's kinda laughable that FCPS principals don't know their own kids/families well enough to know there's no needle to move with that crowd.

The issue is that VDOE is now using attendance as a measure of school success. The parents taking weeks off in addition to the regular vacation are hurting a statistic that was just introduced to the score.

When was that introduced into the score? 2025? Or a few years back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many Asian families don’t take that email seriously because their students are the ones driving FCPS’s academic performance metrics. These students tend to be highly self-directed and often learn far beyond what is taught in the classroom, largely because they are trained and supported from an early age to do so.

+1. FCPS knows there's no moving the attendance needle with families who aren't invested in their children's education. The parents simply don't care and that ship has sailed. They're trying to improve the attendance numbers by going after the families on the other end of the spectrum.

Except they are barking up the wrong tree, as the saying goes. Asking Asian parents to disrupt their winter recess plans and make unwise monetary decisions based on school attendance is more futile than asking parents who don't give a shit about their kids' education to make education-based decisions. Asian parents know their kids are SO FAR ahead of the academic curve, especially in elementary and middle school, that they couldn't give two shits about keeping their kids in school just because the administration sends them that email. They read that email and see "blah blah blah" while their kids are doing SAT practice problems starting in 5th grade. It's kinda laughable that FCPS principals don't know their own kids/families well enough to know there's no needle to move with that crowd.

The issue is that VDOE is now using attendance as a measure of school success. The parents taking weeks off in addition to the regular vacation are hurting a statistic that was just introduced to the score.

In which case, the schools need to be credible with the parents. Expecting that on December 4 people will cancel plans for December 19? Not credible.

Making reference to the cost of plane tickets is especially tone deaf-- principles know parents are struggling to balance costs and think thousands of dollars belong in keeping students in a low activity week?

FCPS could fix this by moving planning days days of high absenteeism. Fixes their stats in one fell swoop and looks responsive. If they don’t want to take that step, they have no right, blaming parents.

+1 There were at least 5 Tuesdays and Thursdays this fall where DC had to stay home alone because of work schedules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am kicking myself that we did not travel for the full week of Thanksgiving. There was no content taught and no assessments and so many kids were out that the school sent several emails begging parents to not call, but to send in absenses through SIS.

Parents, take your children out of school when you need do, especially before breaks. There is nothing going on the days leading up to Winter Break.

Of course families are leaving early.

This is ridiculous and wrong. I hope people don't listen to the likes of these idiots.

I’m a DP but…do you really think kids gain more sitting in front of a movie or on lexia unsupervised than being with family?

Look at the pacing guides sometime. You will be shocked at how little instruction actualy happens in ES many weeks.

ES teacher here. This is not true. Especially since we have to keep on pace to give common assessments. It is already hard enough to fit everything in. No teacher is not teaching the week before break. We are allowed to have a party the Friday before break, but only for an hour. Every thing else is normal.