Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry so many responses have been nasty. In your situation, I would see if enrolling your 10th grader at Eastern for the IB program is an option. For your 4th grader, see if Chisholm and Stokes East End has any openings if Spanish immersion is important to you. Other options would be the Hill elementary schools (minus Brent because of the swing space issue). Thomson (downtown) is also decent and has a viable.middle school path.

Here's the short waitlist website: https://www.myschooldc.org/short-waitlists

I’m assuming OP’s 4th grader has no spanish background. If so, I would not start a 4th grader in am immersion program. Bad idea.

I know a handful of kids who have started immersion in later grades (4th and 5th), specifically at Stokes, that have done fine and have gone on to DCI. I am confident OP’s child will be okay. It is a very supportive school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry so many responses have been nasty. In your situation, I would see if enrolling your 10th grader at Eastern for the IB program is an option. For your 4th grader, see if Chisholm and Stokes East End has any openings if Spanish immersion is important to you. Other options would be the Hill elementary schools (minus Brent because of the swing space issue). Thomson (downtown) is also decent and has a viable.middle school path.

Here's the short waitlist website: https://www.myschooldc.org/short-waitlists

I’m assuming OP’s 4th grader has no spanish background. If so, I would not start a 4th grader in am immersion program. Bad idea.

And here I assumed that if someone is moving to DC for 4th grade and enters the lottery for Stokes or another dual-language program, the child has had enough exposure to the target language that they're not going to be utterly lost.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People think Mccarthur is a good school bc its adjacent to several wealthy neighborhoods. It's a title 1 school - few or none of the parents who live in those neighborhoods would ever send their kids to the school as it is currently constituted. Im talking about the parents who own $2+ million sfh in those adjacent neighborhoods - not parents renting apartments around the corner or across the street from the school.

The parents who actually have kids there have good things to say about McArthur. Yes, it is Title 1 which means poor kids go there, but that doesn't actually make it a bad school. Everyone who goes there from outside the neighborhood makes a major effort to get there which likely selects for motivated families.

This last part is important. People who go there want to be there. Just because people in $2M houses across the street don't like it and are actively trying to scare you away (and clearly $$ doesn't equal smarts. if you don't like the Title I aspect, then stop trashing it. the school isn't going away, people, maybe try to make it better?), doesn't mean it is not worth the commute. We live in Hill East--the commute is tough, but it is doable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry so many responses have been nasty. In your situation, I would see if enrolling your 10th grader at Eastern for the IB program is an option. For your 4th grader, see if Chisholm and Stokes East End has any openings if Spanish immersion is important to you. Other options would be the Hill elementary schools (minus Brent because of the swing space issue). Thomson (downtown) is also decent and has a viable.middle school path.

Here's the short waitlist website: https://www.myschooldc.org/short-waitlists

I’m assuming OP’s 4th grader has no spanish background. If so, I would not start a 4th grader in am immersion program. Bad idea.

I know a handful of kids who have started immersion in later grades (4th and 5th), specifically at Stokes, that have done fine and have gone on to DCI. I am confident OP’s child will be okay. It is a very supportive school

Then the Spanish must be pretty weak and English is used also because the kid would be totally lost at our school

[Anonymous]

DCI at least has different levels of language tracks. Maybe some of its feeders do too.

[Anonymous]

Hi OP, I would definitely recommend transferring to the EE campus. Is your child in the French or Spanish track? I only ask because I know many of the rising kids in the 4th grade French class and it's a great group. I wish you all the luck; let us know what you figure out!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCI at least has different levels of language tracks. Maybe some of its feeders do too.

Nope, none.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry so many responses have been nasty. In your situation, I would see if enrolling your 10th grader at Eastern for the IB program is an option. For your 4th grader, see if Chisholm and Stokes East End has any openings if Spanish immersion is important to you. Other options would be the Hill elementary schools (minus Brent because of the swing space issue). Thomson (downtown) is also decent and has a viable.middle school path.

Here's the short waitlist website: https://www.myschooldc.org/short-waitlists

I’m assuming OP’s 4th grader has no spanish background. If so, I would not start a 4th grader in am immersion program. Bad idea.

And here I assumed that if someone is moving to DC for 4th grade and enters the lottery for Stokes or another dual-language program, the child has had enough exposure to the target language that they're not going to be utterly lost.

You would think but OP has made some very poor choices without researching logistics so………..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry so many responses have been nasty. In your situation, I would see if enrolling your 10th grader at Eastern for the IB program is an option. For your 4th grader, see if Chisholm and Stokes East End has any openings if Spanish immersion is important to you. Other options would be the Hill elementary schools (minus Brent because of the swing space issue). Thomson (downtown) is also decent and has a viable.middle school path.

Here's the short waitlist website: https://www.myschooldc.org/short-waitlists

I’m assuming OP’s 4th grader has no spanish background. If so, I would not start a 4th grader in am immersion program. Bad idea.

I know a handful of kids who have started immersion in later grades (4th and 5th), specifically at Stokes, that have done fine and have gone on to DCI. I am confident OP’s child will be okay. It is a very supportive school

Then the Spanish must be pretty weak and English is used also because the kid would be totally lost at our school

Probably not. People, especially children, pick up language very quickly in immersive settings. You might be surprised.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry so many responses have been nasty. In your situation, I would see if enrolling your 10th grader at Eastern for the IB program is an option. For your 4th grader, see if Chisholm and Stokes East End has any openings if Spanish immersion is important to you. Other options would be the Hill elementary schools (minus Brent because of the swing space issue). Thomson (downtown) is also decent and has a viable.middle school path.

Here's the short waitlist website: https://www.myschooldc.org/short-waitlists

I’m assuming OP’s 4th grader has no spanish background. If so, I would not start a 4th grader in am immersion program. Bad idea.

And here I assumed that if someone is moving to DC for 4th grade and enters the lottery for Stokes or another dual-language program, the child has had enough exposure to the target language that they're not going to be utterly lost.

Charter schools are required to accept anyone who gets a spot off the waiting list. They aren't allowed to ask about language proficiency, IEP status, or anything else. So they have to give support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry so many responses have been nasty. In your situation, I would see if enrolling your 10th grader at Eastern for the IB program is an option. For your 4th grader, see if Chisholm and Stokes East End has any openings if Spanish immersion is important to you. Other options would be the Hill elementary schools (minus Brent because of the swing space issue). Thomson (downtown) is also decent and has a viable.middle school path.

Here's the short waitlist website: https://www.myschooldc.org/short-waitlists

I’m assuming OP’s 4th grader has no spanish background. If so, I would not start a 4th grader in am immersion program. Bad idea.

I know a handful of kids who have started immersion in later grades (4th and 5th), specifically at Stokes, that have done fine and have gone on to DCI. I am confident OP’s child will be okay. It is a very supportive school

Then the Spanish must be pretty weak and English is used also because the kid would be totally lost at our school

Probably not. People, especially children, pick up language very quickly in immersive settings. You might be surprised.

That sounds like a recipe for disaster actually.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry so many responses have been nasty. In your situation, I would see if enrolling your 10th grader at Eastern for the IB program is an option. For your 4th grader, see if Chisholm and Stokes East End has any openings if Spanish immersion is important to you. Other options would be the Hill elementary schools (minus Brent because of the swing space issue). Thomson (downtown) is also decent and has a viable.middle school path.

Here's the short waitlist website: https://www.myschooldc.org/short-waitlists

I’m assuming OP’s 4th grader has no spanish background. If so, I would not start a 4th grader in am immersion program. Bad idea.

I know a handful of kids who have started immersion in later grades (4th and 5th), specifically at Stokes, that have done fine and have gone on to DCI. I am confident OP’s child will be okay. It is a very supportive school

Then the Spanish must be pretty weak and English is used also because the kid would be totally lost at our school

Probably not. People, especially children, pick up language very quickly in immersive settings. You might be surprised.

That sounds like a recipe for disaster actually.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry so many responses have been nasty. In your situation, I would see if enrolling your 10th grader at Eastern for the IB program is an option. For your 4th grader, see if Chisholm and Stokes East End has any openings if Spanish immersion is important to you. Other options would be the Hill elementary schools (minus Brent because of the swing space issue). Thomson (downtown) is also decent and has a viable.middle school path.

Here's the short waitlist website: https://www.myschooldc.org/short-waitlists

I’m assuming OP’s 4th grader has no spanish background. If so, I would not start a 4th grader in am immersion program. Bad idea.

And here I assumed that if someone is moving to DC for 4th grade and enters the lottery for Stokes or another dual-language program, the child has had enough exposure to the target language that they're not going to be utterly lost.

Charter schools are required to accept anyone who gets a spot off the waiting list. They aren't allowed to ask about language proficiency, IEP status, or anything else. So they have to give support.

Sure. They can help support what they can but no amount of money and support is going to make an 8 or 9 year old succeed in doing well when in an immersion setting when the other kids have had 6-7 years of true immersion.

If you think otherwise then you are wrong. Unless of course the program is super weak and it’s not really true immersion standards or expectations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry so many responses have been nasty. In your situation, I would see if enrolling your 10th grader at Eastern for the IB program is an option. For your 4th grader, see if Chisholm and Stokes East End has any openings if Spanish immersion is important to you. Other options would be the Hill elementary schools (minus Brent because of the swing space issue). Thomson (downtown) is also decent and has a viable.middle school path.

Here's the short waitlist website: https://www.myschooldc.org/short-waitlists

I’m assuming OP’s 4th grader has no spanish background. If so, I would not start a 4th grader in am immersion program. Bad idea.

And here I assumed that if someone is moving to DC for 4th grade and enters the lottery for Stokes or another dual-language program, the child has had enough exposure to the target language that they're not going to be utterly lost.

Charter schools are required to accept anyone who gets a spot off the waiting list. They aren't allowed to ask about language proficiency, IEP status, or anything else. So they have to give support.

Sure. They can help support what they can but no amount of money and support is going to make an 8 or 9 year old succeed in doing well when in an immersion setting when the other kids have had 6-7 years of true immersion.

If you think otherwise then you are wrong. Unless of course the program is super weak and it’s not really true immersion standards or expectations.

It seems to work ok for most immigrant kids who enroll in English speaking schools with ESL support, especially if they have a strong educational background in their primary language.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm sorry so many responses have been nasty. In your situation, I would see if enrolling your 10th grader at Eastern for the IB program is an option. For your 4th grader, see if Chisholm and Stokes East End has any openings if Spanish immersion is important to you. Other options would be the Hill elementary schools (minus Brent because of the swing space issue). Thomson (downtown) is also decent and has a viable.middle school path.

Here's the short waitlist website: https://www.myschooldc.org/short-waitlists

I’m assuming OP’s 4th grader has no spanish background. If so, I would not start a 4th grader in am immersion program. Bad idea.

And here I assumed that if someone is moving to DC for 4th grade and enters the lottery for Stokes or another dual-language program, the child has had enough exposure to the target language that they're not going to be utterly lost.

Charter schools are required to accept anyone who gets a spot off the waiting list. They aren't allowed to ask about language proficiency, IEP status, or anything else. So they have to give support.

Sure. They can help support what they can but no amount of money and support is going to make an 8 or 9 year old succeed in doing well when in an immersion setting when the other kids have had 6-7 years of true immersion.

If you think otherwise then you are wrong. Unless of course the program is super weak and it’s not really true immersion standards or expectations.

It seems to work ok for most immigrant kids who enroll in English speaking schools with ESL support, especially if they have a strong educational background in their primary language.

I was an immigrant kid and that is totally different. You are immersed in english everywhere around you - school, stores, TV, music, etc…It’s constant 24/7 because you are living in the country that speaks the language you are learning. You are immersed 24/7. Plus these kids are usually younger that start like 3-6. You can still pick it up like my cousin who came over older but not as good in tone, writing, etc..

Immersion for a few hours in school and that it is, above ain’t happening. Kids will not pick it up easily when it’s english at home and everywhere.