West Potomac HS situation

[Anonymous]

Time for Reid to go. School board can find another incompetent for half the price and use the savings to close the budget gap or improve school security.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Video is on Reddit where someone points out during a fight a teacher literally walks by, takes a photo of the fight and keeps on walking.

Teachers may not be allowed to intervene. The safety protocol is to notify an SRO

Sure, I understand that but to nonchalantly walk past, literally throw up your arm to take a pic and keep walking is awful. He doesn’t stop, say anything, do anything. No instructions whatsoever. No “stop”, no calls out for the SRO or anyone else. It’s a male teacher, with a mustache and large belly, it’s definitely a teacher.

Then when the video shows the student who is stabbed there is one, ONLY one adult standing there and he’s just yelling “ambulance”. He’s not kneeling down to see if kid is alive, or ok, or applying pressure to stop the bleeding. It’s not even clear who he’s talking to, all the kids walking past? No one is in control and several kids are laughing.

I thought cell phones in Virginia public schools were banned during the school day.

Intervene and get punched, jumped, kicked, or stabbed!?
I don’t think so. I’m going to follow the protocol and make sure I make it home to my family.

So just to be clear, protocol is to snap a photo (maybe next time even a selfie, why not) and not do ANYTHING (physical, verbal, logistical) when you see a fight and to not render first aid when you see a stabbed student bleeding out all over the floor (without a fight being present)? I mean, you could also just walk over this bleeding out kid, take a second photo, or start a new meme like the one of the guy giving a peace sign next to a burial plot at a funeral. As long as you make it home to your family. F them kids, dying or not.

[Anonymous]

Anyone on here defending the teacher is just nuts. It's alarming behavior and makes you wonder what really happens in those halls on a daily basis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid who goes to a private school NOT in Fairfax has seen the video. I got a message from her a few minutes ago re there being a stabbing at WestPo and a video. So whatever video is out there has spread.

Cell phones and social media has broken our kids.

I was born in 1973. No cell phones or social media. Fights happened in school. I never saw a stabbing in mine but there where some in others. We didn't have a gun problem then, in schools. It wasnt FCPS. It was indiana. But your comment makes no sense. What are you blabbing about?

I too was born in 1973 and graduated 1991. I often remark that our generation was the last pre digital generation and how lucky we were to grow up without cell phones and internet. I'd take my teenage years 1000 times over the teen years my own kids are having.

F&&k the internet and cell phones.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some interesting comments from Reid, particularly about the teacher walking by:

“It is never acceptable to walk by behavior that is dangerous.”

The absolute nonchalance of that employee is disgusting. The absolute nonchalance of the student body is disturbing.

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-schools-weapons-detections-west-potomac-high-school-stabbing-knife-metal-detector-school-resource-officer-fcps-security-system

You can't be serious. Why would a teacher risk their safety for some nonsense. And what did you expect the studrnt body to do? You want more kids stabbed. I tell my kids anytime there is an altercation, be it verbal or physical there is a high likelihood someone has a weapon. Do NOT get involved. I also live by this. I think the teacher did the right thing.

At the time the teacher walked by there was no stabbing going on. Have you even watched the video? I expect a teacher to say "hey, knock it off" and to tell the other students to stop congregating and disperse or at minimum immediately contact an SRO. There is no time of the essence in anyone. So is it Fairfax policy to just snap a photo and casually keep walking?

When your child is in FCPS building the school system is responsible for them. A teacher or administrator is a part of that. I don't expect anyone to jump into a knife fight so GTFOH with that angle. I do expect the adults to be adults. This lord of the flies attitude is insane.

You all should watch Adolescence on Netflix and check out the portrayal of a small town UK school.

You posted this already. I have watched Adolescence and it doesn't have anything to do with this.

From what I heard from my kids, the fight was over a hat. The kid that got stabbed started the fight by taking the hat from the kid who became the stabber. So they started fighting. A third kid (apparently the friend of the stabber) also got involved. The video also shows the three of them fighting in front of a large office window in addition to the teacher who walks by. So several adults were well aware of this fight and kids just standing around filming, laughing, etc. Eventually after a few minutes an SRO arrived and broke up the fight.

Then after that the kid whose hat was taken comes back to the instigator with a knife and starts stabbing him. Kid falls on his back on the floor and is bleeding everywhere. An adult arrives, stands over the bleeding kid yelling "ambulance" without it being clear who he's directing this instruction. No one actually approaches this kid on the floor to try to stop the bleeding whatsoever, which to me is inexcusable. The fight is over, a child is on the ground with stab wounds. I also saw the video of the stabbing in Bradlee a few years ago, the police officer who was actually there immediately tried to help the victim and render first aid. But in FCPS (and according to several posters on this thread), it is perfectly find to not GAF and not get involved with a stabbed kid.

A victim does not need to be likable to be a victim. He is 16. WTAH is wrong with all of you.

I was not comparing the students at all. I was comparing the perceptions of teachers and their roles regarding discipline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some interesting comments from Reid, particularly about the teacher walking by:

“It is never acceptable to walk by behavior that is dangerous.”

The absolute nonchalance of that employee is disgusting. The absolute nonchalance of the student body is disturbing.

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-schools-weapons-detections-west-potomac-high-school-stabbing-knife-metal-detector-school-resource-officer-fcps-security-system

You can't be serious. Why would a teacher risk their safety for some nonsense. And what did you expect the studrnt body to do? You want more kids stabbed. I tell my kids anytime there is an altercation, be it verbal or physical there is a high likelihood someone has a weapon. Do NOT get involved. I also live by this. I think the teacher did the right thing.

At the time the teacher walked by there was no stabbing going on. Have you even watched the video? I expect a teacher to say "hey, knock it off" and to tell the other students to stop congregating and disperse or at minimum immediately contact an SRO. There is no time of the essence in anyone. So is it Fairfax policy to just snap a photo and casually keep walking?

When your child is in FCPS building the school system is responsible for them. A teacher or administrator is a part of that. I don't expect anyone to jump into a knife fight so GTFOH with that angle. I do expect the adults to be adults. This lord of the flies attitude is insane.

You all should watch Adolescence on Netflix and check out the portrayal of a small town UK school.

You posted this already. I have watched Adolescence and it doesn't have anything to do with this.

From what I heard from my kids, the fight was over a hat. The kid that got stabbed started the fight by taking the hat from the kid who became the stabber. So they started fighting. A third kid (apparently the friend of the stabber) also got involved. The video also shows the three of them fighting in front of a large office window in addition to the teacher who walks by. So several adults were well aware of this fight and kids just standing around filming, laughing, etc. Eventually after a few minutes an SRO arrived and broke up the fight.

Then after that the kid whose hat was taken comes back to the instigator with a knife and starts stabbing him. Kid falls on his back on the floor and is bleeding everywhere. An adult arrives, stands over the bleeding kid yelling "ambulance" without it being clear who he's directing this instruction. No one actually approaches this kid on the floor to try to stop the bleeding whatsoever, which to me is inexcusable. The fight is over, a child is on the ground with stab wounds. I also saw the video of the stabbing in Bradlee a few years ago, the police officer who was actually there immediately tried to help the victim and render first aid. But in FCPS (and according to several posters on this thread), it is perfectly find to not GAF and not get involved with a stabbed kid.

A victim does not need to be likable to be a victim. He is 16. WTAH is wrong with all of you.

What kind of first aid training do teachers have? It's not clear what you would do with multiple stab wounds and a lack of any sort of hemostatic gauze.

[Anonymous]

Hot take:

The beer bellied lazy staff member who strolled on by was likely heading to the cafeteria for lunch duty. LUNCH MUST BE SERVED! FCPS MUST PROVIDE MEALS TO ALL STUDENTS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some interesting comments from Reid, particularly about the teacher walking by:

“It is never acceptable to walk by behavior that is dangerous.”

The absolute nonchalance of that employee is disgusting. The absolute nonchalance of the student body is disturbing.

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-schools-weapons-detections-west-potomac-high-school-stabbing-knife-metal-detector-school-resource-officer-fcps-security-system

You can't be serious. Why would a teacher risk their safety for some nonsense. And what did you expect the studrnt body to do? You want more kids stabbed. I tell my kids anytime there is an altercation, be it verbal or physical there is a high likelihood someone has a weapon. Do NOT get involved. I also live by this. I think the teacher did the right thing.

At the time the teacher walked by there was no stabbing going on. Have you even watched the video? I expect a teacher to say "hey, knock it off" and to tell the other students to stop congregating and disperse or at minimum immediately contact an SRO. There is no time of the essence in anyone. So is it Fairfax policy to just snap a photo and casually keep walking?

When your child is in FCPS building the school system is responsible for them. A teacher or administrator is a part of that. I don't expect anyone to jump into a knife fight so GTFOH with that angle. I do expect the adults to be adults. This lord of the flies attitude is insane.

You all should watch Adolescence on Netflix and check out the portrayal of a small town UK school.

You posted this already. I have watched Adolescence and it doesn't have anything to do with this.

From what I heard from my kids, the fight was over a hat. The kid that got stabbed started the fight by taking the hat from the kid who became the stabber. So they started fighting. A third kid (apparently the friend of the stabber) also got involved. The video also shows the three of them fighting in front of a large office window in addition to the teacher who walks by. So several adults were well aware of this fight and kids just standing around filming, laughing, etc. Eventually after a few minutes an SRO arrived and broke up the fight.

Then after that the kid whose hat was taken comes back to the instigator with a knife and starts stabbing him. Kid falls on his back on the floor and is bleeding everywhere. An adult arrives, stands over the bleeding kid yelling "ambulance" without it being clear who he's directing this instruction. No one actually approaches this kid on the floor to try to stop the bleeding whatsoever, which to me is inexcusable. The fight is over, a child is on the ground with stab wounds. I also saw the video of the stabbing in Bradlee a few years ago, the police officer who was actually there immediately tried to help the victim and render first aid. But in FCPS (and according to several posters on this thread), it is perfectly find to not GAF and not get involved with a stabbed kid.

A victim does not need to be likable to be a victim. He is 16. WTAH is wrong with all of you.

What kind of first aid training do teachers have? It's not clear what you would do with multiple stab wounds and a lack of any sort of hemostatic gauze.

I’ll take this! Former health department staff and Stop the Bleed was being rolled out to clinic, security and admin staff. I left before being certified but it’s a mass casualty event aftermath protocol. Supplies were to be sent to all FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Something is really off in this modern day society that affects kids and teens to such a degree to have this happen. Everyone has a short fuse now with no limits.

[Anonymous]

The teacher apparently was a sub and thought he needed a photo to show security. Also he’s claimed he was instructed to not intervene in any fights by FCPS and he took this to mean not only physical (do not try to break up) but also not to say anything. I’m just reporting what other parents have said.

My child says the kid was stabbed all over, including the back of the neck and his liver so he was bleeding everywhere and many other kids got sprayed with blood. The assailant was also flinging the knife around so it’s lucky no one else got stabbed. And it was another student (a tall white boy) who intervened and got the kid to stop. It was not an SRO. So I guess people got what they wanted with no intervening by adults, now we have kids doing the adult things.

[Anonymous]

PP former staffer back to say that SROs are quite literally the schools’ lifeline. The SRO *never* hesitates to either immediately enact 911 via radio (avg response time to FCPS is under 5 minutes) or better, fully support an independent, professional decision to have 911 activated.

Not so with principals. They can get in the way and have, questioning and second guessing why I’ve called and generally are the worst people in an emergency - ranting about calling the parent, finding the emergency care info …or worse, completely invisible and ineffective.

Yesterday the entire situation was handled by the SRO and security. I heard it on scanner traffic at 9:21. SRO reported blood, student down. I believe SRO and security rendered aid, secured knife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some interesting comments from Reid, particularly about the teacher walking by:

“It is never acceptable to walk by behavior that is dangerous.”

The absolute nonchalance of that employee is disgusting. The absolute nonchalance of the student body is disturbing.

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-schools-weapons-detections-west-potomac-high-school-stabbing-knife-metal-detector-school-resource-officer-fcps-security-system

You can't be serious. Why would a teacher risk their safety for some nonsense. And what did you expect the studrnt body to do? You want more kids stabbed. I tell my kids anytime there is an altercation, be it verbal or physical there is a high likelihood someone has a weapon. Do NOT get involved. I also live by this. I think the teacher did the right thing.

At the time the teacher walked by there was no stabbing going on. Have you even watched the video? I expect a teacher to say "hey, knock it off" and to tell the other students to stop congregating and disperse or at minimum immediately contact an SRO. There is no time of the essence in anyone. So is it Fairfax policy to just snap a photo and casually keep walking?

When your child is in FCPS building the school system is responsible for them. A teacher or administrator is a part of that. I don't expect anyone to jump into a knife fight so GTFOH with that angle. I do expect the adults to be adults. This lord of the flies attitude is insane.

Yes, the kids would have immediately stopped fighting if only an adult said that. Well done!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The teacher apparently was a sub and thought he needed a photo to show security. Also he’s claimed he was instructed to not intervene in any fights by FCPS and he took this to mean not only physical (do not try to break up) but also not to say anything. I’m just reporting what other parents have said.

My child says the kid was stabbed all over, including the back of the neck and his liver so he was bleeding everywhere and many other kids got sprayed with blood. The assailant was also flinging the knife around so it’s lucky no one else got stabbed. And it was another student (a tall white boy) who intervened and got the kid to stop. It was not an SRO. So I guess people got what they wanted with no intervening by adults, now we have kids doing the adult things.

The tall white guy who intervened was a teacher & basketball coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some interesting comments from Reid, particularly about the teacher walking by:

“It is never acceptable to walk by behavior that is dangerous.”

The absolute nonchalance of that employee is disgusting. The absolute nonchalance of the student body is disturbing.

https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-schools-weapons-detections-west-potomac-high-school-stabbing-knife-metal-detector-school-resource-officer-fcps-security-system

You can't be serious. Why would a teacher risk their safety for some nonsense. And what did you expect the studrnt body to do? You want more kids stabbed. I tell my kids anytime there is an altercation, be it verbal or physical there is a high likelihood someone has a weapon. Do NOT get involved. I also live by this. I think the teacher did the right thing.

At the time the teacher walked by there was no stabbing going on. Have you even watched the video? I expect a teacher to say "hey, knock it off" and to tell the other students to stop congregating and disperse or at minimum immediately contact an SRO. There is no time of the essence in anyone. So is it Fairfax policy to just snap a photo and casually keep walking?

When your child is in FCPS building the school system is responsible for them. A teacher or administrator is a part of that. I don't expect anyone to jump into a knife fight so GTFOH with that angle. I do expect the adults to be adults. This lord of the flies attitude is insane.

You all should watch Adolescence on Netflix and check out the portrayal of a small town UK school.

You posted this already. I have watched Adolescence and it doesn't have anything to do with this.

From what I heard from my kids, the fight was over a hat. The kid that got stabbed started the fight by taking the hat from the kid who became the stabber. So they started fighting. A third kid (apparently the friend of the stabber) also got involved. The video also shows the three of them fighting in front of a large office window in addition to the teacher who walks by. So several adults were well aware of this fight and kids just standing around filming, laughing, etc. Eventually after a few minutes an SRO arrived and broke up the fight.

Then after that the kid whose hat was taken comes back to the instigator with a knife and starts stabbing him. Kid falls on his back on the floor and is bleeding everywhere. An adult arrives, stands over the bleeding kid yelling "ambulance" without it being clear who he's directing this instruction. No one actually approaches this kid on the floor to try to stop the bleeding whatsoever, which to me is inexcusable. The fight is over, a child is on the ground with stab wounds. I also saw the video of the stabbing in Bradlee a few years ago, the police officer who was actually there immediately tried to help the victim and render first aid. But in FCPS (and according to several posters on this thread), it is perfectly find to not GAF and not get involved with a stabbed kid.

A victim does not need to be likable to be a victim. He is 16. WTAH is wrong with all of you.

I would not get involved in some stranger's blood, without proper protection and training, either.

[Anonymous]

It appeared to me that the fight was only fist fight when the teacher walked by. No blood yet involved.