Name the safeties your kids love

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Anonymous wrote:UVA

UVa is never a safety for anyone. Nice joke.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a high stats NMSF. So far, he’s gotten into all his safeties


Alabama
Arizona
Arizona State
Iowa
Michigan State
Oklahoma
Penn State
U of Central Florida
U of Minnesota
U Texas at Dallas
VCU

Why so many?
My kid has 3 safeties. 5 targets. and 12 reaches.

Not to send the thread in an off-topic direction but I like this ratio. I get so confused when I hear people say you should have more than three safeties. Logically, these are the schools you are most likely to get into so why would you waste limited CommonApp slots on sure things?

To compare merit aid. Mine is in at two likelies so far, and there is a 10K difference between them in merit aid. 12 reaches is a ridiculous waste of money.

we know a high states male (white, CS major) who should have applied to more reaches. Full pay/loaded family. No aid. Ended up at safety but had the craziest stats and ECs. Should have maxed out that common app. Think kid applied to 10 schools (3/4/3).

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary

Please explain how this is a safety.
Stats?
My DC has great stats and we are on pins and needles waiting in ED. I ready g why yiur DC views this as a “safety” might help me relax a little.

W&M is NOT a safety for anyone. Acceptance rate is 33.5%. That makes it at most a target for a top student

Someone high stats, has a better chance but it is still not a Safety for them.

For who? For everyone? I can see W&M is definitely a reach for you with your critical thinking ability.

General guidelines: you don't call it a likely unless they accept at least 60%.

thank you! I used 50-60%. But apparently those at "elite private schools" with a certain GPA+ can consider them safeties. But for the general public, yes, you should follow the 50-60%+ acceptance rate or it cannot be a safety (and IMO your kid also needs to be at/+ 65-75% for stats)

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary

Please explain how this is a safety.
Stats?
My DC has great stats and we are on pins and needles waiting in ED. I ready g why yiur DC views this as a “safety” might help me relax a little.

W&M is NOT a safety for anyone. Acceptance rate is 33.5%. That makes it at most a target for a top student

Someone high stats, has a better chance but it is still not a Safety for them.

For who? For everyone? I can see W&M is definitely a reach for you with your critical thinking ability.

General guidelines: you don't call it a likely unless they accept at least 60%.

Acceptance rates are generally unreliable proxies for selectivity. Look at Northeastern.

As much as I like to pick on NEU, they are highly selective. It's easy to be Highly selective when you have 100K+ applicants for 2K spots in Boston and another ~1.5K spots "non-boston starts"

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Anonymous wrote:Kansas State
University of Delaware
Iowa State
Michigan State

Already accepted to all with tons of merit

That’s great to hear! Those are all solid schools.

Right and sadly PP’s kid won’t go to any of them, but there were classmates of the kid who were rejected from each of these schools because PP’s kid was one of the 18-20 kids that school accepted. And now some senior is sad because they didn’t get into their reach school due to PPs kid collecting acceptances like trophies that will go on a shelf.

Sorry but if people stopped doing this and actually exercised some discernment in applying to only 2-3 safeties, it would really help other kids in this process.

My high stats kid got into a school (Georgia with merit aid--making it in-state) that he's happy to attend. This is now his safety. We just withdrew all the rest of his applications except for reaches (Ivies and similar). He attends a NYC private and while the colleges don't have a quota, things can get difficult for other kids from a high school when a high stats kid also applies.

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Anonymous wrote:Kansas State
University of Delaware
Iowa State
Michigan State

Already accepted to all with tons of merit

That’s great to hear! Those are all solid schools.

Right and sadly PP’s kid won’t go to any of them, but there were classmates of the kid who were rejected from each of these schools because PP’s kid was one of the 18-20 kids that school accepted. And now some senior is sad because they didn’t get into their reach school due to PPs kid collecting acceptances like trophies that will go on a shelf.

Sorry but if people stopped doing this and actually exercised some discernment in applying to only 2-3 safeties, it would really help other kids in this process.

Wrong. I am the PP whose kid this is. We are a donut hole NOVA family. Kid has a couple of dream schools. Unless kid gets into one of them, which is very, very unlikely, they are taking one of the nearly full-ride merit awards at one of these schools which they are very happy to attend - they have very solid programs in their intended major.

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Anonymous wrote:Kansas State
University of Delaware
Iowa State
Michigan State

Already accepted to all with tons of merit

That’s great to hear! Those are all solid schools.

Right and sadly PP’s kid won’t go to any of them, but there were classmates of the kid who were rejected from each of these schools because PP’s kid was one of the 18-20 kids that school accepted. And now some senior is sad because they didn’t get into their reach school due to PPs kid collecting acceptances like trophies that will go on a shelf.

Sorry but if people stopped doing this and actually exercised some discernment in applying to only 2-3 safeties, it would really help other kids in this process.

Wrong. I am the PP whose kid this is. We are a donut hole NOVA family. Kid has a couple of dream schools. Unless kid gets into one of them, which is very, very unlikely, they are taking one of the nearly full-ride merit awards at one of these schools which they are very happy to attend - they have very solid programs in their intended major.

+1. Per our FCPS info in Naviance there are almost no kids applying to the majority of safeties my kid applied to since many are OOS.

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Amherst, we’re luckily to have many connections, so that’s DS’s backup.

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My ds is thrilled about UCF. I know many here would look down on it, but it's a very well-liked school.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a high stats NMSF. So far, he’s gotten into all his safeties


Alabama
Arizona
Arizona State
Iowa
Michigan State
Oklahoma
Penn State
U of Central Florida
U of Minnesota
U Texas at Dallas
VCU

Why so many?
My kid has 3 safeties. 5 targets. and 12 reaches.

Not to send the thread in an off-topic direction but I like this ratio. I get so confused when I hear people say you should have more than three safeties. Logically, these are the schools you are most likely to get into so why would you waste limited CommonApp slots on sure things?

To compare merit aid. Mine is in at two likelies so far, and there is a 10K difference between them in merit aid. 12 reaches is a ridiculous waste of money.

we know a high states male (white, CS major) who should have applied to more reaches. Full pay/loaded family. No aid. Ended up at safety but had the craziest stats and ECs. Should have maxed out that common app. Think kid applied to 10 schools (3/4/3).

What is wrong with that? It's what most normal people do. The 4 targets means you should get into 2 of them, and you should get into 2 or 3 of the safeties. Applying to more Reaches does not really increase your chances of admission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kansas State
University of Delaware
Iowa State
Michigan State

Already accepted to all with tons of merit

That’s great to hear! Those are all solid schools.

Right and sadly PP’s kid won’t go to any of them, but there were classmates of the kid who were rejected from each of these schools because PP’s kid was one of the 18-20 kids that school accepted. And now some senior is sad because they didn’t get into their reach school due to PPs kid collecting acceptances like trophies that will go on a shelf.

Sorry but if people stopped doing this and actually exercised some discernment in applying to only 2-3 safeties, it would really help other kids in this process.

My high stats kid got into a school (Georgia with merit aid--making it in-state) that he's happy to attend. This is now his safety. We just withdrew all the rest of his applications except for reaches (Ivies and similar). He attends a NYC private and while the colleges don't have a quota, things can get difficult for other kids from a high school when a high stats kid also applies.

Agreed! Especially since, colleges know when High stats kids from Private NYC schools (or anywhere high level private) are using them as a safety---it's part of their yield predictions, and that means someone else from your school definately isn't getting in.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a high stats NMSF. So far, he’s gotten into all his safeties


Alabama
Arizona
Arizona State
Iowa
Michigan State
Oklahoma
Penn State
U of Central Florida
U of Minnesota
U Texas at Dallas
VCU

Why so many?
My kid has 3 safeties. 5 targets. and 12 reaches.

Not to send the thread in an off-topic direction but I like this ratio. I get so confused when I hear people say you should have more than three safeties. Logically, these are the schools you are most likely to get into so why would you waste limited CommonApp slots on sure things?

To compare merit aid. Mine is in at two likelies so far, and there is a 10K difference between them in merit aid. 12 reaches is a ridiculous waste of money.

we know a high states male (white, CS major) who should have applied to more reaches. Full pay/loaded family. No aid. Ended up at safety but had the craziest stats and ECs. Should have maxed out that common app. Think kid applied to 10 schools (3/4/3).

What is wrong with that? It's what most normal people do. The 4 targets means you should get into 2 of them, and you should get into 2 or 3 of the safeties. Applying to more Reaches does not really increase your chances of admission.

I'm also trying to figure out what exactly the problem is here. The kid decided on the safety-maybe it was actually first choice all along? I can't make heads or tails of this post.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA

UVa is never a safety for anyone. Nice joke.

You have no idea.

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Penn State
ASU

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My high stats kid was happy to get into the Pitt school they wanted early. Struck 4 safeties/low matches (and 6 essays) from their list and did not even apply. Agreed with PP that it is better for all not to over apply - some of those may take classmates instead.