If you had a negative experience traveling to Disney, can you share why?

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Anonymous wrote:Disney has come out to say that DAS is now only for kids with Autism. Which I totally don't get because there are so many more serious illnesses that could cause issues standing in line.

Regardless, I agree with others that Disney World is a total nightmare if you don't know when to make reservations and so on and so forth.

To add - Autism won't stop the people who were cheating DAS to continue to cheat this way too. It'll just prevent kids with disabilities from being able to go altogether or cause their families to have to go home early due to a medical event and probably not want to come back.

If Disney wants to make more money, limit the visitors and raise your prices. Rather than pack 'em all in, experience be d*mned

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just not interested in competing against SAHMs who have time to learn all the hacks and systems. I’m busy, so it sounds like way too much work.

I work full time and know most of the good hacks - it’s really not that hard. It’s just like planning a regular vacation. Most of the actual “work” is time on the phone getting LL’s when you’re actually there.

Not 100% sure why you tried to make this a SAHM vs. working mom issue.

I don't understand PPs point about working/not working but there are some serious Disney fanatics (of all types) a newbie is up against and it can be very overwhelming for a first time visitor to get up to speed which sucks the fun out of a vacation.

I do. Disney is a perfect for vacation with a SAHM with a lot of time on her hands. A woman who is type A and doesn’t have an outlet for it. I see HS classmates who are SAHMs taking Disney vacations and it’s perfect for them.

You would be shocked at how many childless adults are Disney addicts then. You clearly don't understand the fan base.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney has come out to say that DAS is now only for kids with Autism. Which I totally don't get because there are so many more serious illnesses that could cause issues standing in line.

Regardless, I agree with others that Disney World is a total nightmare if you don't know when to make reservations and so on and so forth.

To add - Autism won't stop the people who were cheating DAS to continue to cheat this way too. It'll just prevent kids with disabilities from being able to go altogether or cause their families to have to go home early due to a medical event and probably not want to come back.

If Disney wants to make more money, limit the visitors and raise your prices. Rather than pack 'em all in, experience be d*mned

They keep raising the prices yet the people keep coming. Seems like they haven't found the limit that prices people out yet. But for now they nickel and dime on all the extras. The ILL, Genie+, photo pass, Magic Band, there are so many ways to squeeze a few dollars out all day long to enhance the experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok I don’t have any feedback for OP but I am now intrigued by the whole DAS controversy. What were the rules and what are they now?

So, Disney has changed their requirements for being issued a DAS. Some people who may have been previously approved for one, may not now be. It seems to be rather unclear exactly who qualifies, and people are getting varied results in applying for it. There are some accomodations that Disney is suggesting for those not approved, such as Return to Queue and rider swap. Genie+ is NOT listed as one by Disney, despite what the ableist poster here keeps braying about.

This same poster also thinks that everyone who had a DAS was clogging up the lightening lanes in the most popular rides, multiple times a day. As someone whose dc has used DAS and know many others who have traveled to Disney who use it, I know that it is more likely to NOT be the case-rather, the DAS makes it possible for them to experience the park at all. I happen to think that the idea that the lightening lanes will now suddenly be sparse, is crazy-most likely Disney is just going to sell more Genie+ to fill them. We shall see I guess.

I'm sure the ableist poster will continue to complain about DAS users, regardless of how the change plays out!

You can say all of this but Disney posted the stats on who was using the lightening lanes. It was 60% DAS. True people with disabilities would not be able to do nonstop rides like this, I agree with you about that.

I just think DAS should have at least had the same rules as Genie+ (just a free version for disabled kids), instead of it being significantly better.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok I don’t have any feedback for OP but I am now intrigued by the whole DAS controversy. What were the rules and what are they now?

So, Disney has changed their requirements for being issued a DAS. Some people who may have been previously approved for one, may not now be. It seems to be rather unclear exactly who qualifies, and people are getting varied results in applying for it. There are some accomodations that Disney is suggesting for those not approved, such as Return to Queue and rider swap. Genie+ is NOT listed as one by Disney, despite what the ableist poster here keeps braying about.

This same poster also thinks that everyone who had a DAS was clogging up the lightening lanes in the most popular rides, multiple times a day. As someone whose dc has used DAS and know many others who have traveled to Disney who use it, I know that it is more likely to NOT be the case-rather, the DAS makes it possible for them to experience the park at all. I happen to think that the idea that the lightening lanes will now suddenly be sparse, is crazy-most likely Disney is just going to sell more Genie+ to fill them. We shall see I guess.

I'm sure the ableist poster will continue to complain about DAS users, regardless of how the change plays out!

You can say all of this but Disney posted the stats on who was using the lightening lanes. It was 60% DAS. True people with disabilities would not be able to do nonstop rides like this, I agree with you about that.

I just think DAS should have at least had the same rules as Genie+ (just a free version for disabled kids), instead of it being significantly better.

I don't necessarily disagree with your last statement, but did Disney really say that DAS users made up 60% of LL users? I have seen Disney "experts" claiming that, but not straight from Disney. Also, many of the accounts I read had high numbers for particular popular attractions at a particular time, not for all LLs.

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You can't approach Disney like a day at King's Dominion. As long as one member of the party does their homework with the app and everyone is on board with planning special meals well in advance, it works out.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok I don’t have any feedback for OP but I am now intrigued by the whole DAS controversy. What were the rules and what are they now?

So, Disney has changed their requirements for being issued a DAS. Some people who may have been previously approved for one, may not now be. It seems to be rather unclear exactly who qualifies, and people are getting varied results in applying for it. There are some accomodations that Disney is suggesting for those not approved, such as Return to Queue and rider swap. Genie+ is NOT listed as one by Disney, despite what the ableist poster here keeps braying about.

This same poster also thinks that everyone who had a DAS was clogging up the lightening lanes in the most popular rides, multiple times a day. As someone whose dc has used DAS and know many others who have traveled to Disney who use it, I know that it is more likely to NOT be the case-rather, the DAS makes it possible for them to experience the park at all. I happen to think that the idea that the lightening lanes will now suddenly be sparse, is crazy-most likely Disney is just going to sell more Genie+ to fill them. We shall see I guess.

I'm sure the ableist poster will continue to complain about DAS users, regardless of how the change plays out!

You can say all of this but Disney posted the stats on who was using the lightening lanes. It was 60% DAS. True people with disabilities would not be able to do nonstop rides like this, I agree with you about that.

I just think DAS should have at least had the same rules as Genie+ (just a free version for disabled kids), instead of it being significantly better.

I don't necessarily disagree with your last statement, but did Disney really say that DAS users made up 60% of LL users? I have seen Disney "experts" claiming that, but not straight from Disney. Also, many of the accounts I read had high numbers for particular popular attractions at a particular time, not for all LLs.

So explain the recent news that the rules changed. What possible reason could there be?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok I don’t have any feedback for OP but I am now intrigued by the whole DAS controversy. What were the rules and what are they now?

So, Disney has changed their requirements for being issued a DAS. Some people who may have been previously approved for one, may not now be. It seems to be rather unclear exactly who qualifies, and people are getting varied results in applying for it. There are some accomodations that Disney is suggesting for those not approved, such as Return to Queue and rider swap. Genie+ is NOT listed as one by Disney, despite what the ableist poster here keeps braying about.

This same poster also thinks that everyone who had a DAS was clogging up the lightening lanes in the most popular rides, multiple times a day. As someone whose dc has used DAS and know many others who have traveled to Disney who use it, I know that it is more likely to NOT be the case-rather, the DAS makes it possible for them to experience the park at all. I happen to think that the idea that the lightening lanes will now suddenly be sparse, is crazy-most likely Disney is just going to sell more Genie+ to fill them. We shall see I guess.

I'm sure the ableist poster will continue to complain about DAS users, regardless of how the change plays out!

You can say all of this but Disney posted the stats on who was using the lightening lanes. It was 60% DAS. True people with disabilities would not be able to do nonstop rides like this, I agree with you about that.

I just think DAS should have at least had the same rules as Genie+ (just a free version for disabled kids), instead of it being significantly better.

I don't necessarily disagree with your last statement, but did Disney really say that DAS users made up 60% of LL users? I have seen Disney "experts" claiming that, but not straight from Disney. Also, many of the accounts I read had high numbers for particular popular attractions at a particular time, not for all LLs.

So explain the recent news that the rules changed. What possible reason could there be?

Only when you answer my question. Where did Disney say DAS users made up 60% of all LLs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Disney has come out to say that DAS is now only for kids with Autism. Which I totally don't get because there are so many more serious illnesses that could cause issues standing in line.

Regardless, I agree with others that Disney World is a total nightmare if you don't know when to make reservations and so on and so forth.

DAS is *not* about physically waiting in line, because it doesn’t shorten the line any more than Genie+. It’s about getting priorty for reserving rides that non-DAS users cannot get. With Genie+ you take whatever is available when it is available; but with DAS you get to pick any ride you want whenever you want it (within the standby period). And you get to bring your whole family with you, not just one caregiver. The end result was DAS users riding more rides than anyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok I don’t have any feedback for OP but I am now intrigued by the whole DAS controversy. What were the rules and what are they now?

So, Disney has changed their requirements for being issued a DAS. Some people who may have been previously approved for one, may not now be. It seems to be rather unclear exactly who qualifies, and people are getting varied results in applying for it. There are some accomodations that Disney is suggesting for those not approved, such as Return to Queue and rider swap. Genie+ is NOT listed as one by Disney, despite what the ableist poster here keeps braying about.

This same poster also thinks that everyone who had a DAS was clogging up the lightening lanes in the most popular rides, multiple times a day. As someone whose dc has used DAS and know many others who have traveled to Disney who use it, I know that it is more likely to NOT be the case-rather, the DAS makes it possible for them to experience the park at all. I happen to think that the idea that the lightening lanes will now suddenly be sparse, is crazy-most likely Disney is just going to sell more Genie+ to fill them. We shall see I guess.

I'm sure the ableist poster will continue to complain about DAS users, regardless of how the change plays out!

You can say all of this but Disney posted the stats on who was using the lightening lanes. It was 60% DAS. True people with disabilities would not be able to do nonstop rides like this, I agree with you about that.

I just think DAS should have at least had the same rules as Genie+ (just a free version for disabled kids), instead of it being significantly better.

I don't necessarily disagree with your last statement, but did Disney really say that DAS users made up 60% of LL users? I have seen Disney "experts" claiming that, but not straight from Disney. Also, many of the accounts I read had high numbers for particular popular attractions at a particular time, not for all LLs.

So explain the recent news that the rules changed. What possible reason could there be?

Only when you answer my question. Where did Disney say DAS users made up 60% of all LLs?

You're the one who has to prove that there was no abuse. Disney said there was and made changes accordingly. The onus is on you to prove that they are wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney has come out to say that DAS is now only for kids with Autism. Which I totally don't get because there are so many more serious illnesses that could cause issues standing in line.

Regardless, I agree with others that Disney World is a total nightmare if you don't know when to make reservations and so on and so forth.

DAS is *not* about physically waiting in line, because it doesn’t shorten the line any more than Genie+. It’s about getting priorty for reserving rides that non-DAS users cannot get. With Genie+ you take whatever is available when it is available; but with DAS you get to pick any ride you want whenever you want it (within the standby period). And you get to bring your whole family with you, not just one caregiver. The end result was DAS users riding more rides than anyone else.

But it now is about physically waiting in line and whether you can or can't. To qualify you have to explain why you/your child can't wait in a normal line. Because for whatever issue you have they will make other suggestions. Use the return to queue if you have to go to the bathroom, use a wheelchair if you can't stand, and so on.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok I don’t have any feedback for OP but I am now intrigued by the whole DAS controversy. What were the rules and what are they now?

So, Disney has changed their requirements for being issued a DAS. Some people who may have been previously approved for one, may not now be. It seems to be rather unclear exactly who qualifies, and people are getting varied results in applying for it. There are some accomodations that Disney is suggesting for those not approved, such as Return to Queue and rider swap. Genie+ is NOT listed as one by Disney, despite what the ableist poster here keeps braying about.

This same poster also thinks that everyone who had a DAS was clogging up the lightening lanes in the most popular rides, multiple times a day. As someone whose dc has used DAS and know many others who have traveled to Disney who use it, I know that it is more likely to NOT be the case-rather, the DAS makes it possible for them to experience the park at all. I happen to think that the idea that the lightening lanes will now suddenly be sparse, is crazy-most likely Disney is just going to sell more Genie+ to fill them. We shall see I guess.

I'm sure the ableist poster will continue to complain about DAS users, regardless of how the change plays out!

You can say all of this but Disney posted the stats on who was using the lightening lanes. It was 60% DAS. True people with disabilities would not be able to do nonstop rides like this, I agree with you about that.

I just think DAS should have at least had the same rules as Genie+ (just a free version for disabled kids), instead of it being significantly better.

I don't necessarily disagree with your last statement, but did Disney really say that DAS users made up 60% of LL users? I have seen Disney "experts" claiming that, but not straight from Disney. Also, many of the accounts I read had high numbers for particular popular attractions at a particular time, not for all LLs.

So explain the recent news that the rules changed. What possible reason could there be?

Only when you answer my question. Where did Disney say DAS users made up 60% of all LLs?

You're the one who has to prove that there was no abuse. Disney said there was and made changes accordingly. The onus is on you to prove that they are wrong.

DP here. Disney did say there was abuse - both intentional and unintentional. However they never stated a precise number. Many so called “experts” have guessed though.

It remains to be seen if LL will actually get any short or if Disney will just sell more G+.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just not interested in competing against SAHMs who have time to learn all the hacks and systems. I’m busy, so it sounds like way too much work.

I work full time and know most of the good hacks - it’s really not that hard. It’s just like planning a regular vacation. Most of the actual “work” is time on the phone getting LL’s when you’re actually there.

Not 100% sure why you tried to make this a SAHM vs. working mom issue.

I don't understand PPs point about working/not working but there are some serious Disney fanatics (of all types) a newbie is up against and it can be very overwhelming for a first time visitor to get up to speed which sucks the fun out of a vacation.

I do. Disney is a perfect for vacation with a SAHM with a lot of time on her hands. A woman who is type A and doesn’t have an outlet for it. I see HS classmates who are SAHMs taking Disney vacations and it’s perfect for them.

You would be shocked at how many childless adults are Disney addicts then. You clearly don't understand the fan base.

It's perfect for anyone who is type A, loves to plan, and has time on their hands to do all that planning - not matter of they have kids or not.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just not interested in competing against SAHMs who have time to learn all the hacks and systems. I’m busy, so it sounds like way too much work.

I work full time and know most of the good hacks - it’s really not that hard. It’s just like planning a regular vacation. Most of the actual “work” is time on the phone getting LL’s when you’re actually there.

Not 100% sure why you tried to make this a SAHM vs. working mom issue.

I don't understand PPs point about working/not working but there are some serious Disney fanatics (of all types) a newbie is up against and it can be very overwhelming for a first time visitor to get up to speed which sucks the fun out of a vacation.

I do. Disney is a perfect for vacation with a SAHM with a lot of time on her hands. A woman who is type A and doesn’t have an outlet for it. I see HS classmates who are SAHMs taking Disney vacations and it’s perfect for them.

You would be shocked at how many childless adults are Disney addicts then. You clearly don't understand the fan base.

It's perfect for anyone who is type A, loves to plan, and has time on their hands to do all that planning - not matter of they have kids or not.

Sounds like a horrible way to vacation!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just not interested in competing against SAHMs who have time to learn all the hacks and systems. I’m busy, so it sounds like way too much work.

I work full time and know most of the good hacks - it’s really not that hard. It’s just like planning a regular vacation. Most of the actual “work” is time on the phone getting LL’s when you’re actually there.

Not 100% sure why you tried to make this a SAHM vs. working mom issue.

I don't understand PPs point about working/not working but there are some serious Disney fanatics (of all types) a newbie is up against and it can be very overwhelming for a first time visitor to get up to speed which sucks the fun out of a vacation.

I do. Disney is a perfect for vacation with a SAHM with a lot of time on her hands. A woman who is type A and doesn’t have an outlet for it. I see HS classmates who are SAHMs taking Disney vacations and it’s perfect for them.

You would be shocked at how many childless adults are Disney addicts then. You clearly don't understand the fan base.

It's perfect for anyone who is type A, loves to plan, and has time on their hands to do all that planning - not matter of they have kids or not.

Sounds like a horrible way to vacation!

Maybe for you. Which is fine. For us it’s like a fun challenge. We have yet to have a bad or even mediocre Disney vacation.